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post 1571171771 01-14-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Can you explain that please?

Everything I've read says raw since food weighs less when it's cooked.

What about adding heat to something would increase the calories of an item?

I'm trying to learn something honestly.
I weigh my meats cooked.

When weighing it raw you're weighing the water content in the meat therefore the meat is heavier.

I weigh rice and pasta dry.
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post 1571172371 01-14-2019, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By deltpecx⏩
I weigh my meats cooked.

When weighing it raw you're weighing the water content in the meat therefore the meat is heavier.

I weigh rice and pasta dry.
But if I did that it would just mean I ate less calories not more so that's not where my error every one is talking about is coming from.

I don't use any type of oil or grease when I cook.

Dry pan chicken, dry pan steak.
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post 1571172501 01-14-2019, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Can you explain that please?

Everything I've read says raw since food weighs less when it's cooked.

What about adding heat to something would increase the calories of an item?

I'm trying to learn something honestly.
If you're looking at calories in cooked chicken, then obviously you need to weigh it when it's cooked and vice versa.

I weight everything raw cos it's easier and more accurate.
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post 1571172711 01-14-2019, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
lol very nice
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post 1571174031 01-14-2019, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Soon, I'm 18 to 19% right now but on my way down.
lol-i've been telling myself the same thing for years bro

every year its new year new me, start the cut, few months later i fail, then continue to bloatmax til new year new me mode
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post 1571175011 01-14-2019, 03:44 PM
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post 1571207911 01-14-2019, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
I agree it can be a good "goal" but I think what often times happens is people become married to chasing single digits...I was when I competed and it was meaningless.
So much truth. People don't walk around with post-its on their forehead of numbers. Numbers can become obsessive and then you're like my friend who works out in her room for hours and then teaches fitness classes and just goes overboard and breaks her foot.
post 1571217301 01-15-2019, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted By ectoBgone⏩
I kind of do a hybrid. I'll plan out a few daily eating templates and tend to cycle through similar foods in similar slots (switch out one protein for another, similar serving of carbs for another, etc.). It has made for a nice transition into intuitive eating.
Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
LMAO LeoSlayer concerns at the top of the pyramid.

I finally got you off spread.
post 1571217591 01-15-2019, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩
Silly.

Yes it is as simple as cals in and cals out. (not discussing overall health or water retention....fat loss/gain only). While there MAY be very small differences in thermic values...etc, they are very very small and not really worth considering in the 'big picture'.

I have to laugh at advice like "eat the same boring chit daily. Chicken and Rice "....... Um....no thanks. How about just learn sound nutritional practices. I still have left room for weekly eating pizza, icecream 3-4 times a week, pasta, dairy daily in ALL my cuts. No foods have ever made me fat. (excessive quantities of any food make me fat). And before you say it....I was not always a lean individual.
Well I disagree with you. I'm not saying this as a long term 100% definite approach. I'm suggesting it as a means to eliminate problem foods. There are a lot of foods that cause me GI distress and bloating. I figured out what they were by doing what I suggested for a short period of time. I can now eat whatever I want, as long as I pay attention to the rest of my day. Unlike may others, I gain fat VERY easy.

Learning your own body, and how it reacts to certain things makes staying/getting lean much easier. We can just agree to disagree. Everyone hits their goals in different ways. I'm merely suggesting a way that would help Leo learn a good amount about his body.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Well I disagree that a very structured, very planned out, very detail oriented diet plan is more sustainable. Actually a less detail oriented, less structured, less “clean” diet would be much more sustainable for most people in the long run.

Unless you’re competing or modeling or at very low bf already, it just doesn’t make sense to me to focus on details so much if you just need to lose fat.

You can already reach a very good degree of aesthetics by just lifting say 4-5 days a week and controlling your overall daily calories. No more is needed unless you’re truly going for another level, which he is nowhere close to.
Well I just disagree with you. We will leave it at that.
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post 1571218221 01-15-2019, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted By IanStevson⏩
Well done

Height and weight in the pic?
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post 1571220711 01-15-2019, 06:22 AM
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post 1571222481 01-15-2019, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted By bretmarathon⏩
LMAO LeoSlayer concerns at the top of the pyramid.

I finally got you off spread.
That's because you *******s aren't 49. It's easy for you.


Looool it was funny AF tho.
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post 1571223631 01-15-2019, 07:17 AM
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post 1571223871 01-15-2019, 07:21 AM
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What happened to OP? Banned for spamming body fat % threads?
post 1571224181 01-15-2019, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted By IanStevson⏩
Hopefully this is how I will look at 170. Height/Weight? Mirin'.
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post 1571225641 01-15-2019, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted By DCutch⏩
What happened to OP? Banned for spamming body fat % threads?
Pretty sure he just got out of a 3 year ban too
post 1571227701 01-15-2019, 08:16 AM
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This was me at the end of my last cut. I really can't tell what the final bf% was. I store a lot in my ass and legs so if I did a body scan, it would probably return with a much higher bf% than my torso would otherwise indicate. I'd say I could be anywhere between 11-14% in this picture:



it's funny how perception shifts across the months. I don't remember being this lean and back then, I thought I had a long way to go. Now, I've been slow bulking for just about a year and have put on 15 pounds. I'm nowhere near this lean so this thread is making me feelbatman.jpeg. Need to soldier on, though. Will probably begin a 16 week cut in February-March. I'm quite confident that with the mass I've gained in the past year along with myself being careful to not put on heaps of excess body fat, I'll be able to dip below this picture in the end. Slow and steady progress, each year.
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post 1571228001 01-15-2019, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
Pretty sure he just got out of a 3 year ban too
I think he just changed his name is all
I'm back, bitches!
post 1571229141 01-15-2019, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I think he just changed his name is all
Is he "ObsessedWithBFBrah" now?
post 1571230821 01-15-2019, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
That's because you *******s aren't 49. It's easy for you.


Looool it was funny AF tho.
Not 49, but I am 46. No it is not easy for anyone unless you are born at 10% and been the type that stays there your enire life regardless of what you do. That is not me, but 10 years of consious eating has changed that and this is my shape without obsessing now. (I no longer macro count and only track protein). I balance my macros in my head. I eat anything I want and just make it work on a daily/weekly basis. I endulge in pizza, icecream, cookies,....even a few beers and glass or two of wine. Cant ever resist a mexican lunch. At the end of the day, you can make it all work. But learn the fundamentals first and this does not happen over night.

BUT I did spend 4+ years weighing EVERYTHING I ate and planning every macro. Never staying the same weight 2 weeks in a row. Either eating a 250-300 cal surplus (for 4-5 months) and then a 500-750 cal deficit. Over and over and over.

Now I just stay the same year round since I cant gain any more mass (which took me 16 months to figure out). My last 2 attempts at 'eating up' netted no real LBM despite trying as best I could. So my goals these days are to just 'stay in shape'.



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post 1571233361 01-15-2019, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
That's because you *******s aren't 49. It's easy for you.


Looool it was funny AF tho.
I'm 66.
In my avi I was almost 62.
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post 1571236701 01-15-2019, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By deltpecx⏩
I'm 66.
In my avi I was almost 62.
Damn, that's impressive as hell. I'm 44 and don't ever plan on not lifting. Have you had to modify things in any dramatic way as you got older? How many days a week do you lift?
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
That's because you *******s aren't 49. It's easy for you.
Looool it was funny AF tho.
I'm only 2 years behind you.....we're all going to make it!
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post 1571242431 01-15-2019, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By jlsnyderTypeR⏩
I'm only 2 years behind you.....we're all going to make it!
I'm not going to make it.

I'm very discouraged today. I get a different answer to my question everywhere I go.

Nobody seems to give a science based factual answer.
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Originally Posted By deltpecx⏩
I'm 66.
In my avi I was almost 62.
What? No time for the
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For real, though much respek. I hope to be in relatively the same shape in 20 years time.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm not going to make it.

I'm very discouraged today. I get a different answer to my question everywhere I go.

Nobody seems to give a science based factual answer.
The answers are the same, stop blaming your age for being a fattie.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm not going to make it.

I'm very discouraged today. I get a different answer to my question everywhere I go.

Nobody seems to give a science based factual answer.
There are plenty of science based factual answers... You just choose to hope you are a unicorn and then feel like someone shot your dog when you find out you aren't.

Just start logging your intake start your 1 lb per week journey (500 cal deficit per day) and EVENTUALLY you will make it. It takes time and dedication. It isn't complicated, but it is hard.

I am about to start the spring cutters 2019 crew you are more then welcome to join us on our journey.
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leoslayer1 you wont make it because you are too weak mentally and think we can solve your willpower for you. just accept you are 25% and need to cut and get it done
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Originally Posted By Cass40⏩
The answers are the same, stop blaming your age for being a fattie.
The answer isn't the phucking same because I asked the same phucking question in the nutrition forum and got a different answer.


Do you know why McDonald's works? You know why they are so successful?


Because they have a duplicatable system. It's exact.

There's no guessing they don't teach new owners by saying well this is what I intuitively did.


And the whole age thing you obviously don't get the context of my post.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
There are plenty of science based factual answers... You just choose to hope you are a unicorn and then feel like someone shot your dog when you find out you aren't.

Just start logging your intake start your 1 lb per week journey (500 cal deficit per day) and EVENTUALLY you will make it. It takes time and dedication. It isn't complicated, but it is hard.

I am about to start the spring cutters 2019 crew you are more then welcome to join us on our journey.
I asked specifically on nutrition forum if I should count raw meat calories. They said yes.

Here ITT they said count cooked calories.

On Lyle McDonalds forum they say count raw calories. Although I'm still waiting on an answer from Lyle himsef.


Here's my thread with question.https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1571227771


I am logging everything in the fat secret app.
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