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Originally Posted By linn2640⏩
listen to poliquins advice.

you dont DESERVE carbs until youre 10%
The last time I went zero carbs completely I had major constipation. I got so compacted they almost had to admit me.

That's why I'm trying to keep some salads in my diet.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The last time I went zero carbs completely I had major constipation. I got so compacted they almost had to admit me.

That's why I'm trying to keep some salads in my diet.
i think you're delusional bruh honestly.. good luck with your cut though.
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Originally Posted By circular2⏩
It actually succeeded in the sense of the weight I lost added up in the ballpark of 3500/lb. It failed in the sense of I got better results from running and eating clean. IK spot reduction is another pet peeve of the CICO crowd but the running seemed to chiseled my abs whereas the PSMF shrunk me a little bit all over. I'm aware of the low carbs making you look deflated. I looked deflated after PSMF even after refeeding.
Yeah the measly refeed while doing PSMF isn't enough where the muscle will continue looking full on a daily basis. I hate looking flat which is why I don't use PSMF all too often.I do better with a normal calorie deficit created through diet, weight train, some cardio, go the distance and call it a day.
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post 1571264691 01-15-2019, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Type of Pasta Uncooked Amount Cooked Amount
Elbow Macaroni 2 cups/8 oz. 4 cups

You mean you couldn't eat 12 CUPS of macaroni... LOL

Honestly now I just think you are 100% troll.
The calories are the same 12oz dry vs cooked according to everything I have read or been told.

And according to what I was told I should have a 300g day for a refeed. That it should be 30% more calories right?


I had 40g going into dinner I needed 6 servings.

This isn't a troll. It's serious.
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post 1571267051 01-15-2019, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The calories are the same 12oz dry vs cooked according to everything I have read or been told.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
lol but who was water?
post 1571267741 01-15-2019, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Yes

The USDA reports that "Pasta, dry, unenriched" has 371 calories per 100g, and "Pasta, cooked, unenriched, without added salt" has 158 calories per 100g.


So while there is more volume because it absorbed water energy density decreases.

So it's the same that's why everyone says weigh dry and raw and count dry and raw.
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post 1571267901 01-15-2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By linn2640⏩
lol but who was water?
Water has zero calories. Adding water to something doesn't increase calories.

If I have 8oz of orange juice and add 8oz of water to make a 16oz drink the calories don't increase.
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post 1571267921 01-15-2019, 03:58 PM
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Leo

You are acting helpless.

If you want to know what stuff weighs.....weigh it before and after to get multipliers.

EG.
2oz dry pasta weighs 4.25 oz when cooked
1/4 cup rice weighs 135gram when cooked

Proteins are very easy. Figure 6g/oz Uncooked Close enough for any lean meat....chicken/pork/top or bottom round beef.....

Chicken cooked weighs aprox 70% of it's original weight. 6oz raw=4.2 oz cooked.
Chicken cooked in soup (shredded) weighs about 55% of it's original weight.

Beef (depending upon how you cook it) can be anywhere from 75-85% of original weight. 90 for a super rare steak.


How do I know this....no one told me, I just have done it so many times, I know. But there was the first time and I had to figure it out and apply that knowledge.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The calories are the same 12oz dry vs cooked according to everything I have read or been told.
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The USDA reports that "Pasta, dry, unenriched" has371 calories per 100g, and "Pasta, cooked, unenriched, without added salt" has158 calories per 100g.
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Water has zero calories. Adding water to something doesn't increase calories.
post 1571268811 01-15-2019, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
I'm sorry I don't understand the point you are trying to make
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post 1571268921 01-15-2019, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm sorry I don't understand the point you are trying to make
In two consecutive posts you completely contradict yourself. Stopppppp trolling me.
post 1571269051 01-15-2019, 04:11 PM
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BRB requiring damn near 4 lbs of food for dinner.

BRB eating 40 heads of lettuce in a day.

After all a head of lettuce is only 53 cals. LOL

How do some people make this chit so complicated?
post 1571269211 01-15-2019, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm sorry I don't understand the point you are trying to make
water increases volume which decreases calories per capita as per logic (caloric density)
post 1571269301 01-15-2019, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
In two consecutive posts you completely contradict yourself. Stopppppp trolling me.
I didn't contradict.

Dry 100g makes 200gr

Dry calorie 371 per 100
Cooked 158 per 100g
158 times 2 is 316.


So keeping calories the same for dry pasta or cooked pasta is fine.
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post 1571269391 01-15-2019, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By linn2640⏩
water increases volume which decreases calories per capita as per logic (caloric density)
That's what I said.

Energy is decreased per 100 grams. So using dry pasta calories is fine.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I didn't contradict.

Dry 100g makes 200gr

Dry calorie 371 per 100
Cooked 158 per 100g
158 times 2 is 316.


So keeping calories the same for dry pasta or cooked pasta is fine.
If you don't see that you did, there's no saving this cut. And LOL.
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Jeezus Leo, just do what Kimm said. Plus, I don't think you should be all over the place every day with your cals. Set a number and eat that every day. Be consistent. That way you'll know if it's actually working or if you need to cut more cals.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
No I'm hungry AF by the time 10 or 11am roll around. I typically stop eating at 7 trying to stay on a 16hr fast.

But as I said I've been on 30 to 55g carbs a day for about 14 days so I thought I might need it.
Maybe eat less processed foods so you feel more satiated? Why would you eat 6 cups of phucking macaroni on a cut? It's both calorie dense and not very satiating.

Who was high protein and lots of vegetables?
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post 1571270721 01-15-2019, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Kirra⏩
Maybe eat less processed foods so you feel more satiated? Why would you eat 6 cups of phucking macaroni on a cut? It's both calorie dense and not very satiating.

Who was high protein and lots of vegetables?
Was just coming back to edit my post with something similar. Try eating whole foods, they're easier to measure and track than stuff like pasta. Eat rice or quinoa instead of macaroni. I think it was Juggernaut who suggested eating cleaner to start out. I absolutely agree with him, especially since you're not losing eating what you are. Eating cleaner, with none to little processed carbs is what works best for me. I get my carbs from veggies and yams.
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Originally Posted By Kirra⏩
Maybe eat less processed foods so you feel more satiated? Why would you eat 6 cups of phucking macaroni on a cut? It's both calorie dense and not very satiating.

Who was high protein and lots of vegetables?
30-55 g of carbs and 6 cups of macaroni? Was that in one day, spread out during the week or a refeed day...jesus christ I'm so confused?!
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
30-55 g of carbs and 6 cups of macaroni? Was that in one day, spread out during the week or a refeed day...jesus christ I'm so confused?!
I mean, this is coming from someone who says 12 ounces of dry pasta and 12 ounces of cooked pasta are the same calories, while at the same time quoting a source that says 12 ounces dry is 1260 calories and 12 ounces cooked is 540 calories, but doesn't see the difference.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
I mean, this is coming from someone who says 12 ounces of dry pasta and 12 ounces of cooked pasta are the same calories, while at the same time quoting a source that says 12 ounces dry is 1260 calories and 12 ounces cooked is 540 calories, but doesn't see the difference.
he also said that cooked pasta is exactly 200% the volume of dry pasta, thus if you divide cooked pasta by 2 you get the calories for dry pasta, and so on
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
I mean, this is coming from someone who says 12 ounces of dry pasta and 12 ounces of cooked pasta are the same calories, while at the same time quoting a source that says 12 ounces dry is 1260 calories and 12 ounces cooked is 540 calories, but doesn't see the difference.
I said it was 1200 calories consumed for 12oz dry.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
30-55 g of carbs and 6 cups of macaroni? Was that in one day, spread out during the week or a refeed day...jesus christ I'm so confused?!
One day (one meal) He had 3 cups of dry pasta roughly equaling 7 cups in finished form with 11ozs of meat and some sort of canned tomatoes.

Inshort he ate <400 calls all day and then in an attempt to hit his macros tried to down enough (chit) spaghetti to feed a family, but was unable to eat 4 pounds of food (Shocker), but logged it all anyway.

His logs are pretty sad. Honestly it seems like Leo just needs spoon fed a plan. His logs span pages 7-8.
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I don't get it, it's not like this chit is even remotely hard to understand.

You weigh your food, then you type that amount into the app/website of your choosing. Obviously if you weigh your food raw you use the raw chart and vice versa. I mean, how hard is this? Why is he phucking dividing and multiplicating to find chit, it's all already done in the app.

The level of self sabotage here is absolutely phenomenal.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
One day (one meal) He had 3 cups of dry pasta roughly equaling 7 cups in finished form with 11ozs of meat and some sort of canned tomatoes.

Inshort he ate <400 calls all day and then in an attempt to hit his macros tried to down enough (chit) spaghetti to feed a family, but was unable to eat 4 pounds of food (Shocker), but logged it all anyway.

His logs are pretty sad. Honestly it seems like Leo just needs spoon fed a plan. His logs span pages 7-8.
My normal plan outside of what I am now seeing as a refeed mistake is 1800 calories.
45 protein 45 fat 10 carbs. Or somewhere close to that.
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Originally Posted By Kirra⏩
I don't get it, it's not like this chit is even remotely hard to understand.

You weigh your food, then you type that amount into the app/website of your choosing. Obviously if you weigh your food raw you use the raw chart and vice versa. I mean, how hard is this? Why is he phucking dividing and multiplicating to find chit, it's all already done in the app.

The level of self sabotage here is absolutely phenomenal.
That's exactly what I am doing but everyone said I am doing it wrong. I have an app. I weigh my food. I enter it.
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At this point you're better off just finding a cookie cutter 1800 calorie diet plan online (with the meals already laid out.) Follow it for a couple weeks just to see what happens. I guarantee you'll start losing weight.

This will be the proof you need that your counting/tracking is off.

https://www.eatthismuch.com/diet-pla.../high-protein/
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