All depends on how he looks lol. Chris Hemsworth is 35. Think any 22 year old chick is turning him down or calling him "creepy"?

Yes, that's an extreme example but the idea holds weight... in N. America if you're 35+ and you look good (in shape, well-dressed) and have a decent personality you'll still have a shot with women in their early 20s.

Outside of N. America big(ger) age gaps are even more normal.

All depends on how he looks lol. Chris Hemsworth is 35. Think any 22 year old chick is turning him down or calling him "creepy"?

Yes, that's an extreme example but the idea holds weight... in N. America if you're 35+ and you look good (in shape, well-dressed) and have a decent personality you'll still have a shot with women in their early 20s.

Outside of N. America big(ger) age gaps are even more normal.

TFW you are 28 years old but you still look like you are early 20s. But you have the wisdom, confidence, muscle mass, attitude, and resources of someone your age...

hnnnnnggg

TBH for people like us it gets better in the 30s.

It's pretty simple actually. A man's value in the market is based on his: looks, money and status.

A womans value in the market is based on her looks alone. (Which is tied to fertility)

As a man ages he acquires more money and status thus increases his overall market value.
As a woman ages she loses her glow (and fertility), thus her value in the market decreases.

Therefore...if a man keeps himself in shape, and progresses in life by acquiring more money and status as he gets older, than he will be in higher market demand in his 30's than in his 20's, for the women in greatest demand (women in their 20's)...

Now, this is obviously a broad generalization. Some women simply only want to date guys no more than 5 years older then them...however it's extremely unlikely that if a well groomed, well dressed, good looking, charismatic guy with his sh!t together in his 30's approaches an available college girl, she's going to reject him because she prefers immature guys her age that dont have enough money to buy her a slice of pizza.


Tl;dr if you understand the most fundamental law of attracting women is based on how much LM+S you have and how well you leverage/market them...and you don't want to be a FA in your 30's...then you should organise your life in a way that you are constantly working to increase all 3. (Plus the benefits aren't just getting women)...


I was the kid in high school that had girls riding his jock who went off to college to became a FA. I busted my arse off in my 20's/30's and built a solid career (got married/had three kids/got divorced along the way...) and now I am dating more, and prettier college girls in my late 30's early 40's, then I did between the ages of 18-24.

Last two girls I saw regularly: 20yo over the summer (ended labor day) 21yo saw during fall/winter (ended before x mas). Both 7+/10's. And b4 the hater crew jumps all over me. Both I met on tinder. They both knew I was 40 years old. I didn't buy them any gifts, or pay them one red cent.

Those are your only options. Good luck bros.

It's pretty simple actually. A man's value in the market is based on his: looks, money and status.

A womans value in the market is based on her looks alone. (Which is tied to fertility)

As a man ages he acquires more money and status thus increases his overall market value.
As a woman ages she loses her glow (and fertility), thus her value in the market decreases.

Therefore...if a man keeps himself in shape, and progresses in life by acquiring more money and status as he gets older, than he will be in higher market demand in his 30's than in his 20's, for the women in greatest demand (women in their 20's)...

Now, this is obviously a broad generalization. Some women simply only want to date guys no more than 5 years older then them...however it's extremely unlikely that if a well groomed, well dressed, good looking, charismatic guy with his sh!t together in his 30's approaches an available college girl, she's going to reject him because she prefers immature guys her age that dont have enough money to buy her a slice of pizza.

This is also why you see it alot on here, where guys that were successfull with women in high school or college, suddenly become FA as soon as they graduate.

They look the same pretty much, so what happened? Well, they lost their social status. The high school kid built his network and reputation over the course of 12 years. So in his senior year in high school he had girls in every clique riding his jock.

Then he graduates, moves off to college and is a nobody.

The reverse is also true. The high school kid that didn't have that many friends, was kind of a loser...graduates, goes off to college, breaks out of his shell, finds a group of guys to chill with...the guys give him respect. Then suddenly... BAMMM!!! He's droppin sorority girls panties every weekend.

I also see this on ig all the time. You see some hbb with pics of her at senior prom, with her high school sweetheart, then next year she's posting pics slootin it up at frat parties with football players, while her senior year prom date is posting #tbt pics of his gf from high school.

Tl;dr if you understand the most fundamental law of attracting women is based on how much LM+S you have and how well you leverage/market them...and you don't want to be a FA in your 30's...then you should organise your life in a way that you are constantly working to increase all 3. (Plus the benefits aren't just getting women)...

My credentials
"Who are you and how the phuck do you know this to be true?" ...some of you might be asking.

I was the kid in high school that had girls riding his jock who went off to college to became a FA. I busted my arse off in my 20's/30's and built a solid career (got married/had three kids/got divorced along the way...) and now I am dating more, and prettier college girls in my late 30's early 40's, then I did between the ages of 18-24.

Last two girls I saw regularly: 20yo over the summer (ended labor day) 21yo saw during fall/winter (ended before x mas). Both 7+/10's. And b4 the hater crew jumps all over me. Both I met on tinder. They both knew I was 40 years old. I didn't buy them any gifts, or pay them one red cent.

Final words of advice before I get back to my stuff
So if you arent a hater. And you are spending hours of your day on the misc zoning out of your reality, only to wake up and realize you are FA. Rewire your entire brain to evaluate every thought and every action into two categories: 1) thoughts/actions to improve yourself (aquire more lms) 2) thoughts actions to keep you exactly where you are today. Flush the second category out of your life because if you aren't moving forward you are moving backwards. Or ldar.

Those are your only options. Good luck bros.

all i'm going to say is that since about 27 it's gotten easier and easier (i'm 33 now) and i'm not a guy who is "obviously' balling by any stretch.

I went to my alma mater for a friends bachelor party (he wanted to party at hte old stomping grounds and catch a game) and i got approached more by the 19-23 yr olds that one night than i did the average semeseter in college. SRS.

All depends on how he looks lol. Chris Hemsworth is 35. Think any 22 year old chick is turning him down or calling him "creepy"?

Yes, that's an extreme example but the idea holds weight... in N. America if you're 35+ and you look good (in shape, well-dressed) and have a decent personality you'll still have a shot with women in their early 20s.

Outside of N. America big(ger) age gaps are even more normal.

all i'm going to say is that since about 27 it's gotten easier and easier (i'm 33 now) and i'm not a guy who is "obviously' balling by any stretch.

I went to my alma mater for a friends bachelor party (he wanted to party at hte old stomping grounds and catch a game) and i got approached more by the 19-23 yr olds that one night than i did the average semeseter in college. SRS.

all i'm going to say is that since about 27 it's gotten easier and easier (i'm 33 now) and i'm not a guy who is "obviously' balling by any stretch.

I went to my alma mater for a friends bachelor party (he wanted to party at hte old stomping grounds and catch a game) and i got approached more by the 19-23 yr olds that one night than i did the average semeseter in college. SRS.

It's pretty simple actually. A man's value in the market is based on his: looks, money and status.

A womans value in the market is based on her looks alone. (Which is tied to fertility)

As a man ages he acquires more money and status thus increases his overall market value.
As a woman ages she loses her glow (and fertility), thus her value in the market decreases.

Therefore...if a man keeps himself in shape, and progresses in life by acquiring more money and status as he gets older, than he will be in higher market demand in his 30's than in his 20's, for the women in greatest demand (women in their 20's)...

Now, this is obviously a broad generalization. Some women simply only want to date guys no more than 5 years older then them...however it's extremely unlikely that if a well groomed, well dressed, good looking, charismatic guy with his sh!t together in his 30's approaches an available college girl, she's going to reject him because she prefers immature guys her age that dont have enough money to buy her a slice of pizza.

This is also why you see it alot on here, where guys that were successfull with women in high school or college, suddenly become FA as soon as they graduate.

They look the same pretty much, so what happened? Well, they lost their social status. The high school kid built his network and reputation over the course of 12 years. So in his senior year in high school he had girls in every clique riding his jock.

Then he graduates, moves off to college and is a nobody.

The reverse is also true. The high school kid that didn't have that many friends, was kind of a loser...graduates, goes off to college, breaks out of his shell, finds a group of guys to chill with...the guys give him respect. Then suddenly... BAMMM!!! He's droppin sorority girls panties every weekend.

I also see this on ig all the time. You see some hbb with pics of her at senior prom, with her high school sweetheart, then next year she's posting pics slootin it up at frat parties with football players, while her senior year prom date is posting #tbt pics of his gf from high school.

Tl;dr if you understand the most fundamental law of attracting women is based on how much LM+S you have and how well you leverage/market them...and you don't want to be a FA in your 30's...then you should organise your life in a way that you are constantly working to increase all 3. (Plus the benefits aren't just getting women)...

My credentials
"Who are you and how the phuck do you know this to be true?" ...some of you might be asking.

I was the kid in high school that had girls riding his jock who went off to college to became a FA. I busted my arse off in my 20's/30's and built a solid career (got married/had three kids/got divorced along the way...) and now I am dating more, and prettier college girls in my late 30's early 40's, then I did between the ages of 18-24.

Last two girls I saw regularly: 20yo over the summer (ended labor day) 21yo saw during fall/winter (ended before x mas). Both 7+/10's. And b4 the hater crew jumps all over me. Both I met on tinder. They both knew I was 40 years old. I didn't buy them any gifts, or pay them one red cent.

Final words of advice before I get back to my stuff
So if you arent a hater. And you are spending hours of your day on the misc zoning out of your reality, only to wake up and realize you are FA. Rewire your entire brain to evaluate every thought and every action into two categories: 1) thoughts/actions to improve yourself (aquire more lms) 2) thoughts actions to keep you exactly where you are today. Flush the second category out of your life because if you aren't moving forward you are moving backwards. Or ldar.

Those are your only options. Good luck bros.

If you have money your peak is early 40s. If you don't it's early 20s.

define "money" please. I'm curious what you even consider to be wealth.

define "money" please. I'm curious what you even consider to be wealth.

It's pretty simple actually. A man's value in the market is based on his: looks, money and status.

A womans value in the market is based on her looks alone. (Which is tied to fertility)

As a man ages he acquires more money and status thus increases his overall market value.
As a woman ages she loses her glow (and fertility), thus her value in the market decreases.

Therefore...if a man keeps himself in shape, and progresses in life by acquiring more money and status as he gets older, than he will be in higher market demand in his 30's than in his 20's, for the women in greatest demand (women in their 20's)...

Now, this is obviously a broad generalization. Some women simply only want to date guys no more than 5 years older then them...however it's extremely unlikely that if a well groomed, well dressed, good looking, charismatic guy with his sh!t together in his 30's approaches an available college girl, she's going to reject him because she prefers immature guys her age that dont have enough money to buy her a slice of pizza.

This is also why you see it alot on here, where guys that were successfull with women in high school or college, suddenly become FA as soon as they graduate.

They look the same pretty much, so what happened? Well, they lost their social status. The high school kid built his network and reputation over the course of 12 years. So in his senior year in high school he had girls in every clique riding his jock.

Then he graduates, moves off to college and is a nobody.

The reverse is also true. The high school kid that didn't have that many friends, was kind of a loser...graduates, goes off to college, breaks out of his shell, finds a group of guys to chill with...the guys give him respect. Then suddenly... BAMMM!!! He's droppin sorority girls panties every weekend.

I also see this on ig all the time. You see some hbb with pics of her at senior prom, with her high school sweetheart, then next year she's posting pics slootin it up at frat parties with football players, while her senior year prom date is posting #tbt pics of his gf from high school.

Tl;dr if you understand the most fundamental law of attracting women is based on how much LM+S you have and how well you leverage/market them...and you don't want to be a FA in your 30's...then you should organise your life in a way that you are constantly working to increase all 3. (Plus the benefits aren't just getting women)...

My credentials
"Who are you and how the phuck do you know this to be true?" ...some of you might be asking.

I was the kid in high school that had girls riding his jock who went off to college to became a FA. I busted my arse off in my 20's/30's and built a solid career (got married/had three kids/got divorced along the way...) and now I am dating more, and prettier college girls in my late 30's early 40's, then I did between the ages of 18-24.

Last two girls I saw regularly: 20yo over the summer (ended labor day) 21yo saw during fall/winter (ended before x mas). Both 7+/10's. And b4 the hater crew jumps all over me. Both I met on tinder. They both knew I was 40 years old. I didn't buy them any gifts, or pay them one red cent.

Final words of advice before I get back to my stuff
So if you arent a hater. And you are spending hours of your day on the misc zoning out of your reality, only to wake up and realize you are FA. Rewire your entire brain to evaluate every thought and every action into two categories: 1) thoughts/actions to improve yourself (aquire more lms) 2) thoughts actions to keep you exactly where you are today. Flush the second category out of your life because if you aren't moving forward you are moving backwards. Or ldar.

Those are your only options. Good luck bros.

This, interested in what amount of money misc thinks is normal.

Average household income is like not even 60k. But misc thinks every man can make enough money to stand out and bang chicks younger and hot? Its not reality

Even 600k is a stretch for that kind of lifestyle (srs). Unless you're directly paying...

I make around 400k/year right now but I save most of it, don't live extravagantly at all. It hasn't helped me bang chicks at all so far. Maybe if I spent more it'd help but I don't really feel like doing that.

You peak whenever you take time for yourself. You take 2 years off work at 35 to travel and lift, what do you think is going to happen?
Of course if you work 60 hours/week you're going to look like death.

Which industry?

Software engineer at big tech company

And you make 400k doing it. In contrast, all the guys I know who kill it have low key 50k jobs who just look good. A lot of their gfs/fiances/wives are actually high paid professionals.