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Originally Posted By Nic1⏩
And you do that in your late teen/early 20s essentially.Yep, it's almost harder with a higher salary. Women see you as stable, not fun. Plus you're more tired, less healthy and have less time to play games.
I think to peak you basically have to make it your fulltime job. Quit work, travel, get in super shape, relaxed, social, etc. Kinda like a "kept woman" who stays home, goes to the gym and to the spa all day, and basically looks good for her man as her main activity. It's easy then.
Most guys/girls on instagram who look awesome and make it big have quit their day job, or at least are not slugging away 60 hours/week in a soul-sucking corporate desk job. They're traveling and doing whatever they feel like. That's healthy and it shows. They're basically playing the popular game of high school full time.
Now, you need money to that, but you can save. I save like 80% of my take home pay and I can stop working forever in a few months at 35 if I want to. Look up FIRE if you don't know it
I think to peak you basically have to make it your fulltime job. Quit work, travel, get in super shape, relaxed, social, etc. Kinda like a "kept woman" who stays home, goes to the gym and to the spa all day, and basically looks good for her man as her main activity. It's easy then.
Most guys/girls on instagram who look awesome and make it big have quit their day job, or at least are not slugging away 60 hours/week in a soul-sucking corporate desk job. They're traveling and doing whatever they feel like. That's healthy and it shows. They're basically playing the popular game of high school full time.
Now, you need money to that, but you can save. I save like 80% of my take home pay and I can stop working forever in a few months at 35 if I want to. Look up FIRE if you don't know it
I do agree making money can actually be a negative. Most miscers/redditors/internet folks repeat this "looks money status" thing without ever considering what it entails. If you actually make a lot of money, then you spend all of your time doing it.
If you are dating, you're squeezing in dates into a packed stressful schedule. The 20s male fantasy online is that you magically acquire some millionaire status job who barely works as you turn 30.
And money or not, what happens when you approach someone and/or make a dating profile? The other side has already decided if they're attracted based on your looks. If that parts a fail, you're not making the cut to display your (7 figure) money.
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9⏩
I don't think you get it. Having lots of LMS doesn't guarantee you anything except female attraction (and you still have to put work in). Once you get their attention, you have to use real "game" in order to get their #/date them/bed them/marry them, etc...So basically, be great on paper. Source: Your personal anecdote.
Doesn't actually work like that in real life. Cool people in high school stay cool in college and vice versa (usually) depending on the atmosphere you're in later on.
The "LMS" thing (looks money status) is utter nonsense. Money and status are things men admire heavily. You should take a legit look at who most of these girls date. Almost all hold some blue collar or low-level white collar job. There's no money or status, at all. On the contrary, the high money/status guys definitely don't go onto kill it. Not to mention high money in the real world is upper 6 figs to lower 7 figs (minimum) and high status goes beyond most jobs. We did have a surgeon earlier this thread mention how little it has helped him though, so there's that.
Doesn't actually work like that in real life. Cool people in high school stay cool in college and vice versa (usually) depending on the atmosphere you're in later on.
The "LMS" thing (looks money status) is utter nonsense. Money and status are things men admire heavily. You should take a legit look at who most of these girls date. Almost all hold some blue collar or low-level white collar job. There's no money or status, at all. On the contrary, the high money/status guys definitely don't go onto kill it. Not to mention high money in the real world is upper 6 figs to lower 7 figs (minimum) and high status goes beyond most jobs. We did have a surgeon earlier this thread mention how little it has helped him though, so there's that.
This is why you see Chad tier guys at the mall holding hands with whales, and that Asian manlet miscer make threads about creampie'ing above average looking white girls.
It's even in the title of the sloth thread "Looks gets you matches, but game gets you smashes".
You are under the illusion that I think women are lining up at every surgeons door in North America. Not at all. What I'm saying is pretty simple. I'll give you an example:
If the 7 fig surgeon leverages his status/money to attract women by taking 3 pics showing his lifestyle... lets say 1 pic is on a yacht in the Caribbean, 2nd is driving a porche in the desert, 3rd is eating breakfast on the French Riviera, etc..
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Same dude. Except now he throws away his scrubs and puts on a JiffyLube uniform. He's now making mid 5 figs let's say. And he has to pick 3 pics that show off his lifestyle/status. So....1st pic hes on a fishing boat catching a fish in some lake in Oregon. 2nd pic hes tailgating a football game in his 09 F150 3rd pic he's eating bbq in his buddies yard on the 4th of July.
Take the surgeons pics and the mechanics pics lay them down on a table and ask thirty 8+/10 women in their 20's this question: "If you had to pick the surgeon or the mechanic to go on a date with, who would you pick?"
Who do you think most girls would pick? Of course they'd pick the surgeon.
Take it down another level. You have the same JiffyLube mechanic, same pics as before...but now he's facing off against (himself) as a McDonalds cashier. McDonald's cashier takes 3 pics showing his lifestyle. Pic 1 he's fishing from a bridge. Pic 2 he's driving a beat up 2002 Ford focus. Pic 3 he's dining out at TGI Fridays and blowing his entire weeks paycheck...
Who do you think the girls would prefer to date based on "image" alone if they had to choose? The mechanic, of course.
Tl:dr Having the status and money of a 7 fig surgeon will only attract females if you leverage it....but once you attract them you still need game to convert them.
Inb4 McDonald's cashiers can pull 8/10's easier than millionaires LMFAO!
01-17-2019, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9⏩
Yeah for sure. Money helps but only if you spend it AND you have time to enjoy it. So basically you need to win the lottery or have rich parents, and spend regularly. Nobody cares if you have $1M in your bank account but you live a middle-class lifestyle in order to save that much.And you do that in your late teen/early 20s essentially.
I do agree making money can actually be a negative. Most miscers/redditors/internet folks repeat this "looks money status" thing without ever considering what it entails. If you actually make a lot of money, then you spend all of your time doing it.
If you are dating, you're squeezing in dates into a packed stressful schedule. The 20s male fantasy online is that you magically acquire some millionaire status job who barely works as you turn 30.
And money or not, what happens when you approach someone and/or make a dating profile? The other side has already decided if they're attracted based on your looks. If that parts a fail, you're not making the cut to display your (7 figure) money.
I do agree making money can actually be a negative. Most miscers/redditors/internet folks repeat this "looks money status" thing without ever considering what it entails. If you actually make a lot of money, then you spend all of your time doing it.
If you are dating, you're squeezing in dates into a packed stressful schedule. The 20s male fantasy online is that you magically acquire some millionaire status job who barely works as you turn 30.
And money or not, what happens when you approach someone and/or make a dating profile? The other side has already decided if they're attracted based on your looks. If that parts a fail, you're not making the cut to display your (7 figure) money.
And if you spend all of your $400k salary then jokes on you because the day you get sick/injured or just can't take the high-stress job, you're stuck with financial committments and you have nothing saved.
So I'd say better save money for yourself. Hopefully then you can afford to downshift at work and enjoy life from your 30s onwards.
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01-17-2019, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted By spadelexus⏩
The one thing wrong with the bolded is that it doesn't happen. Your "chad" is almost always holding hands with their equal. And almost all of your short asian guys aren't holding hands with anyone. It's just that the rare time they are, or the rare time the chad is with someone less attractive - it stands out and that becomes the rule...rather than the exception.I don't think you get it. Having lots of LMS doesn't guarantee you anything except female attraction (and you still have to put work in). Once you get their attention, you have to use real "game" in order to get their #/date them/bed them/marry them, etc...
This is why you see Chad tier guys at the mall holding hands with whales, and that Asian manlet miscer make threads about creampie'ing above average looking white girls.
It's even in the title of the sloth thread "Looks gets you matches, but game gets you smashes".
You are under the illusion that I think women are lining up at every surgeons door in North America. Not at all. What I'm saying is pretty simple. I'll give you an example:
If the 7 fig surgeon leverages his status/money to attract women by taking 3 pics showing his lifestyle... lets say 1 pic is on a yacht in the Caribbean, 2nd is driving a porche in the desert, 3rd is eating breakfast on the French Riviera, etc..
Vs.
Same dude. Except now he throws away his scrubs and puts on a JiffyLube uniform. He's now making mid 5 figs let's say. And he has to pick 3 pics that show off his lifestyle/status. So....1st pic hes on a fishing boat catching a fish in some lake in Oregon. 2nd pic hes tailgating a football game in his 09 F150 3rd pic he's eating bbq in his buddies yard on the 4th of July.
Take the surgeons pics and the mechanics pics lay them down on a table and ask thirty 8+/10 women in their 20's this question: "If you had to pick the surgeon or the mechanic to go on a date with, who would you pick?"
Who do you think most girls would pick? Of course they'd pick the surgeon.
Take it down another level. You have the same JiffyLube mechanic, same pics as before...but now he's facing off against (himself) as a McDonalds cashier. McDonald's cashier takes 3 pics showing his lifestyle. Pic 1 he's fishing from a bridge. Pic 2 he's driving a beat up 2002 Ford focus. Pic 3 he's dining out at TGI Fridays and blowing his entire weeks paycheck...
Who do you think the girls would prefer to date based on "image" alone if they had to choose? The mechanic, of course.
Tl:dr Having the status and money of a 7 fig surgeon will only attract females if you leverage it....but once you attract them you still need game to convert them.
Inb4 McDonald's cashiers can pull 8/10's easier than millionaires LMFAO!
This is why you see Chad tier guys at the mall holding hands with whales, and that Asian manlet miscer make threads about creampie'ing above average looking white girls.
It's even in the title of the sloth thread "Looks gets you matches, but game gets you smashes".
You are under the illusion that I think women are lining up at every surgeons door in North America. Not at all. What I'm saying is pretty simple. I'll give you an example:
If the 7 fig surgeon leverages his status/money to attract women by taking 3 pics showing his lifestyle... lets say 1 pic is on a yacht in the Caribbean, 2nd is driving a porche in the desert, 3rd is eating breakfast on the French Riviera, etc..
Vs.
Same dude. Except now he throws away his scrubs and puts on a JiffyLube uniform. He's now making mid 5 figs let's say. And he has to pick 3 pics that show off his lifestyle/status. So....1st pic hes on a fishing boat catching a fish in some lake in Oregon. 2nd pic hes tailgating a football game in his 09 F150 3rd pic he's eating bbq in his buddies yard on the 4th of July.
Take the surgeons pics and the mechanics pics lay them down on a table and ask thirty 8+/10 women in their 20's this question: "If you had to pick the surgeon or the mechanic to go on a date with, who would you pick?"
Who do you think most girls would pick? Of course they'd pick the surgeon.
Take it down another level. You have the same JiffyLube mechanic, same pics as before...but now he's facing off against (himself) as a McDonalds cashier. McDonald's cashier takes 3 pics showing his lifestyle. Pic 1 he's fishing from a bridge. Pic 2 he's driving a beat up 2002 Ford focus. Pic 3 he's dining out at TGI Fridays and blowing his entire weeks paycheck...
Who do you think the girls would prefer to date based on "image" alone if they had to choose? The mechanic, of course.
Tl:dr Having the status and money of a 7 fig surgeon will only attract females if you leverage it....but once you attract them you still need game to convert them.
Inb4 McDonald's cashiers can pull 8/10's easier than millionaires LMFAO!
And yeah man, you have to leverage it. But do you know how much work it takes to make 7 figures? Try being up at 430am every day, home by 6pm but also on call and working some weekends. There's a reason those guys have so many divorces. And ultimately, another reason why the rich guys directly pay for it. Not everyone is an instragram socialite millionaire. Most have to work hard to make that kind of money.
Also, I think you ignored that fact that the sort of money you talk about is literally unattainable by most people. That's a concrete fact given <1% of people obtain that level of income/wealth.
When it comes down to it, your 8 wants an 8 and will most likely be with an 8. And yeah dude, game matters in the sense that you shouldn't say weird sh*t. Some guys do get a lot of matches but ruin it via being a wierdo.
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9⏩
I agree these are exceptions. But they demonstrate that you still need game in order to convert. Chads need less game. But some have none and they are stuck with uggos.The one thing wrong with the bolded is that it doesn't happen. Your "chad" is almost always holding hands with their equal. And almost all of your short asian guys aren't holding hands with anyone. It's just that the rare time they are, or the rare time the chad is with someone less attractive - it stands out and that becomes the rule...rather than the exception.
And yeah man, you have to leverage it. But do you know how much work it takes to make 7 figures? Try being up at 430am every day, home by 6pm but also on call and working some weekends. There's a reason those guys have so many divorces. And ultimately, another reason why the rich guys directly pay for it. Not everyone is an instragram socialite millionaire. Most have to work hard to make that kind of money.
I never assumed making a million is easy. Making $100k/year is easy. Making a million Id bet is more than 10x's harder (could be wrong tho).Also, I think you ignored that fact that the sort of money you talk about is literally unattainable by most people. That's a concrete fact given <1% of people obtain that level of income/wealth.
When it comes down to it, your 8 wants an 8 and will most likely be with an 8. And yeah dude, game matters in the sense that you shouldn't say weird sh*t. Some guys do get a lot of matches but ruin it via being a wierdo.
I think its all relative (that's why I added in the McDonald's cashier example). And I'm not saying looks dont matter either. Of course they do.When it comes down to it, your 8 wants an 8 and will most likely be with an 8. And yeah dude, game matters in the sense that you shouldn't say weird sh*t. Some guys do get a lot of matches but ruin it via being a wierdo.
Im simply saying that men who leverage their money and status (doesn't have to be top 1%...even top 10% have an advantage, if they use it), will attract more and prettier women, than:
1) if they dont use their money or status as an advantage or
2) if they dont have money or status to begin with
That's all.
01-17-2019, 10:17 PM
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Why are you still crying?
Go work your 60 hour work week and stfu.
Ok your best days are behind you, are we supposed to care you want to ignore all evidence otherwise?
Basically, you're telling us that because normies are ****ing idiots, this somehow impacts you???? When you lift do you do it like normies? When you go to school do you do it like normies? When you go to work do you do it like normies?
Go work your 60 hour work week and stfu.
Ok your best days are behind you, are we supposed to care you want to ignore all evidence otherwise?
Basically, you're telling us that because normies are ****ing idiots, this somehow impacts you???? When you lift do you do it like normies? When you go to school do you do it like normies? When you go to work do you do it like normies?
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Originally Posted By dimassive⏩
the average salary for men, all ages in 2017 was 49,000.........most men are not getting rich. they might make more when they're older, but most men are not making anything impressive to women and never will regardless of age.Men become richer as they age, more wise, better cars better houses more muscle.
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these are the pure facts of it that miscers just ignore
01-17-2019, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9⏩
I agree with pretty much everything you've said except this. In my experience women refuse to date guys who are below them socioeconomically. All the female Drs I know date other Drs/Lawyers/Finance guys. I've never seen a female dr (nor medical student) date a tradie/low-level government admin worker/barista etc.And you make 400k doing it. In contrast, all the guys I know who kill it have low key 50k jobs who just look good. A lot of their gfs/fiances/wives are actually high paid professionals.
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Originally Posted By Nic1⏩
Lmao WHAT. Having a higher salary is never harder. Perhaps having to work 60 hour weeks makes it harder. Just gotta get a job that allows a decent amount of time off. Personally I shoot for 8 days in a row @80 hours total then taking 6 days off. GOAT lifestyle status.Yep, it's almost harder with a higher salary. Women see you as stable, not fun. Plus you're more tired, less healthy and have less time to play games.
I think to peak you basically have to make it your fulltime job. Quit work, travel, get in super shape, relaxed, social, etc. Kinda like a "kept woman" who stays home, goes to the gym and to the spa all day, and basically looks good for her man as her main activity. It's easy then.
Most guys/girls on instagram who look awesome and make it big have quit their day job, or at least are not slugging away 60 hours/week in a soul-sucking corporate desk job. They're traveling and doing whatever they feel like. That's healthy and it shows. They're basically playing the popular game of high school full time.
Now, you need money to that, but you can save. I save like 80% of my take home pay and I can stop working forever in a few months at 35 if I want to. Look up FIRE if you don't know it
I think to peak you basically have to make it your fulltime job. Quit work, travel, get in super shape, relaxed, social, etc. Kinda like a "kept woman" who stays home, goes to the gym and to the spa all day, and basically looks good for her man as her main activity. It's easy then.
Most guys/girls on instagram who look awesome and make it big have quit their day job, or at least are not slugging away 60 hours/week in a soul-sucking corporate desk job. They're traveling and doing whatever they feel like. That's healthy and it shows. They're basically playing the popular game of high school full time.
Now, you need money to that, but you can save. I save like 80% of my take home pay and I can stop working forever in a few months at 35 if I want to. Look up FIRE if you don't know it
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lol .most guys in the 40s look like chit.
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Originally Posted By A-GAME⏩
He must be typing at work as he writes these long essays on here, and to get SilenceSpeaks to date him. But he puts his age at 28 when he's 40, to get young girls on Tinder. Thus, he basically is giving evidence to the OP of how tough it is for a 40 year old guy to date a 20 year old chick, even though the Misc thinks it's common.Take notes, kids.
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Men here who actually lift and live some sort of decent lifestyle and pursue goals and a mission of some type will probably peak in general attractiveness and net worth/income around mid-50s. You guys who gave up on life at 25 and looked like Alex Jones when you were teens have no hope.
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Originally Posted By bretmarathon⏩
Lol saw this coming which is why I noted in my 1st post the girlsknew I was 40...They all do. Some legit think I'm phuckin with them so I'll have to show them my id. Nobody is denying that men (in general) become lessphysicallyattractive at a certain age. For each man that age is different and for each woman her "cut off" age on dating apps is different too.He must be typing at work as he writes these long essays on here, and to get SilenceSpeaks to date him. But he puts his age at 28 when he's 40, to get young girls on Tinder. Thus, he basically is giving evidence to the OP of how tough it is for a 40 year old guy to date a 20 year old chick, even though the Misc thinks it's common.
But here's the key point you are missing. The "age bracket" set by women is based on what age they think physical appearance in men starts to tail (in general). Why? Because they don't want to waste time swiping on a bunch of fat, bald, 50 year olds. That's it. But as we all know women are not just attracted to physical appearance. That means any guy who stays in shape/looksmaxes + aquires more M & S in his late 20's and 30's can compete for the girls in highest demand...even if he didn't get them in his early 20's.
Can't remember where I saw this but it basically said that women are more likely to be a terror attack victim than to get married over the age of 35. Compared to men, women have a much shorter shelf life in terms of reproduction. And man's M & S value should increase the older he gets.
That is why I have a much better chance of marrying an attractive girl in her 20's, then Silencespeaks has of marrying an attractive guy in his 40's.
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Originally Posted By spadelexus⏩
You have good info Spade. I'm on spread with you. I'm already moneymaxing, statusmaxing and looksmaxing (will be expensive). How about personality/gamemaxing? I already know how to looksmax and how to money max. The statusmax part goes hand in hand with my moneymaxing (getting a more prestigious career).Lol saw this coming which is why I noted in my 1st post the girlsknew I was 40...They all do. Some legit think I'm phuckin with them so I'll have to show them my id. Nobody is denying that men (in general) become lessphysicallyattractive at a certain age. For each man that age is different and for each woman her "cut off" age on dating apps is different too.
But here's the key point you are missing. The "age bracket" set by women is based on what age they think physical appearance in men starts to tail (in general). Why? Because they don't want to waste time swiping on a bunch of fat, bald, 50 year olds. That's it. But as we all know women are not just attracted to physical appearance. That means any guy who stays in shape/looksmaxes + aquires more M & S in his late 20's and 30's can compete for the girls in highest demand...even if he didn't get them in his early 20's.
Can't remember where I saw this but it basically said that women are more likely to be a terror attack victim than to get married over the age of 35. Compared to men, women have a much shorter shelf life in terms of reproduction. And man's M & S value should increase the older he gets.
That is why I have a much better chance of marrying an attractive girl in her 20's, then Silencespeaks has of marrying an attractive guy in his 40's.
But here's the key point you are missing. The "age bracket" set by women is based on what age they think physical appearance in men starts to tail (in general). Why? Because they don't want to waste time swiping on a bunch of fat, bald, 50 year olds. That's it. But as we all know women are not just attracted to physical appearance. That means any guy who stays in shape/looksmaxes + aquires more M & S in his late 20's and 30's can compete for the girls in highest demand...even if he didn't get them in his early 20's.
Can't remember where I saw this but it basically said that women are more likely to be a terror attack victim than to get married over the age of 35. Compared to men, women have a much shorter shelf life in terms of reproduction. And man's M & S value should increase the older he gets.
That is why I have a much better chance of marrying an attractive girl in her 20's, then Silencespeaks has of marrying an attractive guy in his 40's.
But how about gaming and dating women?
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
The same as all the rest. The more time you put into it, the better your chance of success.You have good info Spade. I'm on spread with you. I'm already moneymaxing, statusmaxing and looksmaxing (will be expensive). How about personality/gamemaxing? I already know how to looksmax and how to money max. The statusmax part goes hand in hand with my moneymaxing (getting a more prestigious career).
But how about gaming and dating women?
But how about gaming and dating women?
That's the concept FA's can't grasp. Game is a skill you need to practice like learning how to hit a baseball. They take a few swings and don't make contact, so they blame the bat. Blame the wind. Blame the pitcher. Then they quit.
This is also why OP will be making mid 6 figs and dating 6/10's at best. He busted ass in school, busted his ass to bench 470lbs, will bust his ass in his career too. But for some reason...he feels like the world tricked him about women...he thought that all he had to say was "med school" to line up 3somes with cheerleaders in college...so now he's bitter making threads like this...while he's holding an aluminum phucking bat...blaming the sun for being in his eyes...meanwhile guys with wifflle ball bats are timing the trajectory of a curve ball,.with the volocity of their swing, day after day, until they finally make contact.
It's a tough world. Nobody cares about excuses. You have to believe it then will it. Doesn't matter how many girls reject you, ghost you etc...in fact, you have to get rejected so much you enjoy it, because you learn from it, and understand that's one rejection closer to a success. I would always remind brahs that read my tinder tales in the sloth thread, that I'm not posting the 100 fails. Im posting the 1 win that came after the 100 fails.
Tl;dr: you have to approach/talk to a ton of women
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Originally Posted By LordMU⏩
I think you're being black and white. It's not - high end job vs low end job. Think more in the middle like a teacher. And I personally have seen the blue collar thing... a lot actually.I agree with pretty much everything you've said except this. In my experience women refuse to date guys who are below them socioeconomically. All the female Drs I know date other Drs/Lawyers/Finance guys. I've never seen a female dr (nor medical student) date a tradie/low-level government admin worker/barista etc.
Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Okay and.... ? The type of "rich" lifestyle the misc talks about needs a 7 figure income. And people making that kind of money also work like dogs.Lmao WHAT. Having a higher salary is never harder. Perhaps having to work 60 hour weeks makes it harder. Just gotta get a job that allows a decent amount of time off. Personally I shoot for 8 days in a row @80 hours total then taking 6 days off. GOAT lifestyle status.
In my field you either need to be seeing a killer volume of patients/doing nonstop procedures or you need a solid lucrative private practice. In other industries, it's 10000x harder to make that kind of money. Hence why so few do it in society
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Originally Posted By spadelexus⏩
Strong assumptions. I already posted about my personal history and how it isnt even relevant to the topic of discussion.The same as all the rest. The more time you put into it, the better your chance of success.
That's the concept FA's can't grasp. Game is a skill you need to practice like learning how to hit a baseball. They take a few swings and don't make contact, so they blame the bat. Blame the wind. Blame the pitcher. Then they quit.
This is also why OP will be making mid 6 figs and dating 6/10's at best. He busted ass in school, busted his ass to bench 470lbs, will bust his ass in his career too. But for some reason...he feels like the world tricked him about women...he thought that all he had to say was "med school" to line up 3somes with cheerleaders in college...so now he's bitter making threads like this...while he's holding an aluminum phucking bat...blaming the sun for being in his eyes...meanwhile guys with wifflle ball bats are timing the trajectory of a curve ball,.with the volocity of their swing, day after day, until they finally make contact.
It's a tough world. Nobody cares about excuses. You have to believe it then will it. Doesn't matter how many girls reject you, ghost you etc...in fact, you have to get rejected so much you enjoy it, because you learn from it, and understand that's one rejection closer to a success. I would always remind brahs that read my tinder tales in the sloth thread, that I'm not posting the 100 fails. Im posting the 1 win that came after the 100 fails.
Tl;dr: you have to approach/talk to a ton of women
That's the concept FA's can't grasp. Game is a skill you need to practice like learning how to hit a baseball. They take a few swings and don't make contact, so they blame the bat. Blame the wind. Blame the pitcher. Then they quit.
This is also why OP will be making mid 6 figs and dating 6/10's at best. He busted ass in school, busted his ass to bench 470lbs, will bust his ass in his career too. But for some reason...he feels like the world tricked him about women...he thought that all he had to say was "med school" to line up 3somes with cheerleaders in college...so now he's bitter making threads like this...while he's holding an aluminum phucking bat...blaming the sun for being in his eyes...meanwhile guys with wifflle ball bats are timing the trajectory of a curve ball,.with the volocity of their swing, day after day, until they finally make contact.
It's a tough world. Nobody cares about excuses. You have to believe it then will it. Doesn't matter how many girls reject you, ghost you etc...in fact, you have to get rejected so much you enjoy it, because you learn from it, and understand that's one rejection closer to a success. I would always remind brahs that read my tinder tales in the sloth thread, that I'm not posting the 100 fails. Im posting the 1 win that came after the 100 fails.
Tl;dr: you have to approach/talk to a ton of women
Once upon a time I was a "slayer" or whatever you guys call it. I would get approached. I'd have nonstop tinder matches etc. Then I got busy and also approaches and such stopped too.
Originally Posted By Nic1⏩
The internet/misc thinks men magically go from poverty status in 20s to balling rich in their 30s/40s. But you're right, even if you were.. you'd still need the lifestyle. Mansion? High end sports cars? High end restaurants/clubs/bars whereyou're tipping a grand?Yeah for sure. Money helps but only if you spend it AND you have time to enjoy it. So basically you need to win the lottery or have rich parents, and spend regularly. Nobody cares if you have $1M in your bank account but you live a middle-class lifestyle in order to save that much.
And if you spend all of your $400k salary then jokes on you because the day you get sick/injured or just can't take the high-stress job, you're stuck with financial committments and you have nothing saved.
So I'd say better save money for yourself. Hopefully then you can afford to downshift at work and enjoy life from your 30s onwards.
And if you spend all of your $400k salary then jokes on you because the day you get sick/injured or just can't take the high-stress job, you're stuck with financial committments and you have nothing saved.
So I'd say better save money for yourself. Hopefully then you can afford to downshift at work and enjoy life from your 30s onwards.
You literally cannot fake it like many suggest. Again, because of my family and relatives I know what that scene is like. And guess what happens there, you're now suddenly competing with other rich guys. Many of which make 10x what you do and can easily make you look poor in comparison.
And if you decide to go for middle class people, well you're still back at square one.
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Originally Posted By spadelexus⏩
That's comparing apples to oranges. There aren't many attractive men or women in their 40s. She just needs to realize that we all aren't attractive forever, and we age. No one isn't going to care about looks or attraction at age 60 when that all goes downhill anyways. What OP is saying is that most attractive women are with equally attractive men in their 20s.Lol saw this coming which is why I noted in my 1st post the girlsknew I was 40...They all do. Some legit think I'm phuckin with them so I'll have to show them my id. Nobody is denying that men (in general) become lessphysicallyattractive at a certain age. For each man that age is different and for each woman her "cut off" age on dating apps is different too.
But here's the key point you are missing. The "age bracket" set by women is based on what age they think physical appearance in men starts to tail (in general). Why? Because they don't want to waste time swiping on a bunch of fat, bald, 50 year olds. That's it. But as we all know women are not just attracted to physical appearance. That means any guy who stays in shape/looksmaxes + aquires more M & S in his late 20's and 30's can compete for the girls in highest demand...even if he didn't get them in his early 20's.
Can't remember where I saw this but it basically said that women are more likely to be a terror attack victim than to get married over the age of 35. Compared to men, women have a much shorter shelf life in terms of reproduction. And man's M & S value should increase the older he gets.
That is why I have a much better chance of marrying an attractive girl in her 20's, then Silencespeaks has of marrying an attractive guy in his 40's.
But here's the key point you are missing. The "age bracket" set by women is based on what age they think physical appearance in men starts to tail (in general). Why? Because they don't want to waste time swiping on a bunch of fat, bald, 50 year olds. That's it. But as we all know women are not just attracted to physical appearance. That means any guy who stays in shape/looksmaxes + aquires more M & S in his late 20's and 30's can compete for the girls in highest demand...even if he didn't get them in his early 20's.
Can't remember where I saw this but it basically said that women are more likely to be a terror attack victim than to get married over the age of 35. Compared to men, women have a much shorter shelf life in terms of reproduction. And man's M & S value should increase the older he gets.
That is why I have a much better chance of marrying an attractive girl in her 20's, then Silencespeaks has of marrying an attractive guy in his 40's.
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Originally Posted By bretmarathon⏩
This. In what part of North America are girls in their 20s mostly dating men in their 40s? Subtract the ones with daddy issues & psych issues and your left with a number close to 0.That's comparing apples to oranges. There aren't many attractive men or women in their 40s. She just needs to realize that we all aren't attractive forever, and we age. No one isn't going to care about looks or attraction at age 60 when that all goes downhill anyways.What OP is saying is that most attractive women are with equally attractive men in their 20s.
Also, his advice to go nuts and approach women nonstop is laughable. Some of us are in professional fields and would get a negative reputation over night if we did that. It is possible sometimes... one (resident) doctor I know who is veryy good looking slept with numerous nurses & other staff at his hospital. At the same time (one from a different year who is average looking) tried to hit on a lot of them and following rejection it became incredibly awkward for him at the hospital. Not to mention getting annoyed by them at 3am with silly pages as a result of it.
Similar examples exist everywhere.
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teacher yes, but only once and that's the 1 in 10 exception to the rule. I've never come across a single female med-student or doctor who is dating a blue collar worker.I think you're being black and white. It's not - high end job vs low end job. Think more in the middle like a teacher. And I personally have seen the blue collar thing... a lot actually.
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Originally Posted By LordMU⏩
Which region are you in?teacher yes, but only once and that's the 1 in 10 exception to the rule. I've never come across a single female med-student or doctor who is dating a blue collar worker.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
You're talking about 30s and beyond, I was talking about their 20s.Idk but I regularly see chubby Chads with fat wives. Always just assume they started dating in college when they were both fit. And then she got fat after marriage and kids and stopped focusing on her looks. And he gained a little weight too but is still goodlooking.
Originally Posted By LordMU⏩
I'm talking about north america brah. They're certainly not with bums or low income earners but anything above that is a pass.Aus/Nz
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Originally Posted By bretmarathon⏩
Nonsense. If you look at girls profiles, most of them are looking for guys from their own age up to 45-50. But they're looking for this kind of 50 year old....He must be typing at work as he writes these long essays on here, and to get SilenceSpeaks to date him. But he puts his age at 28 when he's 40, to get young girls on Tinder. Thus, he basically is giving evidence to the OP of how tough it is for a 40 year old guy to date a 20 year old chick, even though the Misc thinks it's common.
Not this kind...
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9⏩
maybe so. Here Tradies make decent coin, electricians and plumbers can pull $80-$100k++easy but nevertheless everything I've seen is that people tend to date others of the same socioeconomic and attractiveness level. So you're 8/10 hair-dresser is dating an 8/10 plumber and a 3/10 female Dr is dating their looks-match equivalent male Dr. This is purely anecdotal and not rigid but this has been my experience.I'm talking about north america brah. They're certainly not with bums or low income earners but anything above that is a pass.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Right exactly.Oh yeah I agree as to early 20’s. Most hot girls that age want to date hot guys their own age. So hot guys that age have many girls to choose from because there are usually a lot more hot girls than hot guys.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Need to be careful with how you define money in this context. You're talking millionaire status. Not making 110k/year with 0 debt.Young girls looking for a guy that old are mostly just golddiggers. So they’d take either one depending on the money.
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