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post 1571545391 01-18-2019, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By A-GAME
Nonsense. If you look at girls profiles, most of them are looking for guys from their own age up to 45-50. But they're looking for this kind of 50 year old....



Not this kind...

No young girl wants that unless he's rich.
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Funny thing about crying OP is that his lifts put him in the 1% of the male population, his salary in the 1% of the male population, his job in the 1% of the male population and his physique in the 1% of the male population, but all of a sudden he wants to start talking about bell curves and averages.
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Originally Posted By RisenV
Funny thing about crying OP is that his lifts put him in the 1% of the male population, his salary in the 1% of the male population, his job in the 1% of the male population and his physique in the 1% of the male population, but all of a sudden he wants to start talking about bell curves and averages.
no sh*t it's a discussion about people, not me.
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In this thread, got repped by 17 people and got 0 negs. Clearly there's large consensus on this.
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Originally Posted By severagee
Not really. Girls are really attracted to status and resources, which your average early 20s college student has absolutely none of.

If you're just going into an average white-collar career and work as a salesman or an accountant, yea it's probably not gonna get a lot better with age (unless your confidence increases dramatically).

But if you're a doctor/dentist/lawyer/veterinarian who's making 6 figures easily and who's not gotten much uglier with age, you'll probably do a lot better than when you were in college simply by virtue of status and what you can provide.

Plus way more girls than you think are okay with sleeping with dudes older than them. Like, many many women I've talked to irl talk about how they prefer older men. You see women all the time saying dudes aren't worth getting into relationships with until they're 30 (and able to provide something then). Your confidence is also almost certainly going to be better than when you were in your twenties.
I think it does brah, when you have a little money it shows and girls notice. I work a average white collar job and this girl got impressed when I said I wanted an open tab lol. You've gotta remember how broke younger girls tend to be. Miscers seem to think that just because girls get attention and dicked down all the time it translates to other areas of their life. Truth is they are usually working some 20 hr/week retail job and "going back to school soon".Doesn't take much to have a lot of resources compared to someone in their early 20s.
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Originally Posted By iamdetermined
I think it does brah, when you have a little money it shows and girls notice. I work a average white collar job andthis girl got impressedwhen I said I wanted an open tab lol. You've gotta remember how broke younger girls tend to be. Miscers seem to think that just because girls get attention and dicked down all the time it translates to other areas of their life. Truth is they are usually working some 20 hr/week retail job and "going back to school soon".Doesn't take much to have a lot of resources compared to someone in their early 20s.
So what did that translate to? End outcomes are evidence.
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I'll chip in from my experience and take it with a grain of salt. Same situation as the OP but a little older. 29 in 1 month.

I am currently an M3 about to start my 4th year of medical school in a few months. Had no problem getting girls in high school, undergrad, and in medical school. However, I have kept in shape (best physique of my life), kept up with a good daily skin care routine since I was 18, still have a full head of hair. My game significantly improved during college (was in a social fraternity, where my Sigep brothers at?) and that carried on when I graduated. I get hit on daily by a lot of the staff as a med student to the point where random nurses are giving me their numbers (esp the younger ones). I have dates lined up even during my busy schedule, although I am good at time management.

Not a doctor yet but I am almost done. I think, IMO, status/wealth DOES matter to women ONLY if you kept up with the other attributes in life. I kept up with my diet, managed to keep a daily skin routine (have less wrinkles than I do in early 20s because of my regime), I am the leanest I have been, improved my self confidence and charisma, and consistently strived to become a better person overall (good character, life is not all about fuking bitches and getting $$$). My genetics did help me a bit though with facial aesthetics and a full head of hair.

The doctors and med students I saw that failed miserably when it comes to dating are the ones who thought their new status would help them get women when they having NOTHING else going on their life (only thing they had going for them was their medical degree, haven't actively worked on other aspects of life, in other words, NOT well-rounded).

Also, for the ones that think medicine is a 70 hr week job, you're entirely wrong. Doing outpatient medicine makes it ALOT easier to work less hours and have a more regular lifestyle. Yes, you wont be making 1 million per year but I have no issue making 250K per year. Planning to do outpatient med in the future.
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Originally Posted By StudentDoctorEM
I'll chip in from my experience and take it with a grain of salt. Same situation as the OP but a little older. 29 in 1 month.

I am currently an M3 about to start my 4th year of medical school in a few months. Had no problem getting girls in high school, undergrad, and in medical school. However, I have kept in shape (best physique of my life), kept up with a good daily skin care routine since I was 18, still have a full head of hair. My game significantly improved during college (was in a social fraternity, where my Sigep brothers at?) and that carried on when I graduated. I get hit on daily by a lot of the staff as a med student to the point where random nurses are giving me their numbers (esp the younger ones). I have dates lined up even during my busy schedule, although I am good at time management.

Not a doctor yet but I am almost done. I think, IMO, status/wealth DOES matter to women ONLY if you kept up with the other attributes in life. I kept up with my diet, managed to keep a daily skin routine (have less wrinkles than I do in early 20s because of my regime), I am the leanest I have been, improved my self confidence and charisma, and consistently strived to become a better person overall (good character, life is not all about fuking bitches and getting $$$). My genetics did help me a bit though with facial aesthetics and a full head of hair.

The doctors and med students I saw that failed miserably when it comes to dating are the ones who thought their new status would help them get women when they having NOTHING else going on their life (only thing they had going for them was their medical degree, haven't actively worked on other aspects of life, in other words, NOT well-rounded).

Also, for the ones that think medicine is a 70 hr week job, you're entirely wrong. Doing outpatient medicine makes it ALOT easier to work less hours and have a more regular lifestyle. Yes, you wont be making 1 million per year but I have no issue making 250K per year. Planning to do outpatient med in the future.
Lol you must be a west coast/southern brah, in the east coast med students (and even residents in a lot of cases) are scum of earth to any and all staff (rare exceptions apply).

Anyway you basically described what I've been saying. Essentially, you peaked in college like you should have..same as me. Then you maintained most of it and added a cherry on top.
Those guys who aren't doing well are held back by factors out of their control. If your face was a 5 (and everything else the same), you wouldn't even be acknowledged.
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Originally Posted By StudentDoctorEM
I'll chip in from my experience and take it with a grain of salt. Same situation as the OP but a little older. 29 in 1 month.

I am currently an M3 about to start my 4th year of medical school in a few months. Had no problem getting girls in high school, undergrad, and in medical school. However, I have kept in shape (best physique of my life), kept up with a good daily skin care routine since I was 18, still have a full head of hair. My game significantly improved during college (was in a social fraternity, where my Sigep brothers at?) and that carried on when I graduated. I get hit on daily by a lot of the staff as a med student to the point where random nurses are giving me their numbers (esp the younger ones). I have dates lined up even during my busy schedule, although I am good at time management.

Not a doctor yet but I am almost done. I think, IMO, status/wealth DOES matter to women ONLY if you kept up with the other attributes in life. I kept up with my diet, managed to keep a daily skin routine (have less wrinkles than I do in early 20s because of my regime), I am the leanest I have been, improved my self confidence and charisma, and consistently strived to become a better person overall (good character, life is not all about fuking bitches and getting $$$). My genetics did help me a bit though with facial aesthetics and a full head of hair.

The doctors and med students I saw that failed miserably when it comes to dating are the ones who thought their new status would help them get women when they having NOTHING else going on their life (only thing they had going for them was their medical degree, haven't actively worked on other aspects of life, in other words, NOT well-rounded).

Also, for the ones that think medicine is a 70 hr week job, you're entirely wrong. Doing outpatient medicine makes it ALOT easier to work less hours and have a more regular lifestyle. Yes, you wont be making 1 million per year but I have no issue making 250K per year. Planning to do outpatient med in the future.
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Originally Posted By Maylie
They’re probably at least 7/10s facially with full heads of hair if this is true. And they probably got with women before and just haven’t slowed down yet.

Looks matter A LOT to young women so the idea that when Timothy gets a little more money, the 20 year old HBBs are gonna come running is just angry virgin fantasy.

Chad can still be Chad in his 30’s under certain circumstances.

But lol at all the Timmy’s waiting for their turn to get back at Stacy. Just lol.
Nope...stop creating realities for others to fit your worldview. two of the 3 pulled almost nothing in mid 20s and the oldest of them is completely bald now.

I pulled well in my 20s but its just on another level now and with much less effort.

PPl likie OP should at least wait to experience what they are talking about efore claiming to be some know all expert. LOL at a 25 yr old lecturing others on what life is like in 30s while disregarding the ones with the ACTUAL experience
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Originally Posted By ejWU21
Nope...stop creating realities for others to fit your worldview. two of the 3 pulled almost nothing in mid 20s and the oldest of them is completely bald now.

I pulled well in my 20s but its just on another level now and with much less effort.

PPl likie OP should at least wait to experience what they are talking about efore claiming to be some know all expert. LOL at a 25 yr old lecturing others on what life is like in 30s while disregarding the ones with the ACTUAL experience
We had people in this thread who are 30-40 support what I said.
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9
We had people in this thread who are 30-40 support what I said.
As well as the opposite. I dont agree or disagree with what you're saying. But you have been confirming the anecdotes that conform to your worldview, while ignoring all the other ones.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
As well as the opposite. I dont agree or disagree with what you're saying. But you have been confirming the anecdotes that conform to your worldview, while ignoring all the other ones.
It's almost like both can be true and it depends on the situation.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
It's almost like both can be true and it depends on the situation.
Sure. But that's not what OP is saying
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
As well as the opposite. I dont agree or disagree with what you're saying. But you have been confirming the anecdotes that conform to your worldview, while ignoring all the other ones.
Cause when you have a guy who's an 8, their opinion is useless. They decline with age but hold steady enough to do very well still.
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9
Cause when you have a guy who's an 8, their opinion is useless. They decline with age but hold steady enough to do very well still.
So as men age, they should looksmax. I agree. Also, others in the thread have seemed to just keep in decent shape, and still do well.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
So as men age, they should looksmax. I agree. Also, others in the thread have seemed to just keep in decent shape, and still do well.
That hasn't been the misc/internet/male belief over the years though. Instead it's been that you suddenly become a magnet as you age. One must wonder who you even attract as the vast majority of quality options are in relationships. This is 10x the case as you age too.
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9
That hasn't been the misc/internet/male belief over the years though. Instead it's been that you suddenly become a magnet as you age. One must wonder who you even attract as the vast majority of quality options are in relationships. This is 10x the case as you age too.
I agree with you in the instance of miscers believing they will all of a sudden start attracting hot sloots just because they age
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
I agree with you in the instance of miscers believing they will all of a sudden start attracting hot sloots just because they age
This.

Also, gaining money only increases your PROVIDER status.

If we’re just talking about sex, ie sleeping with young girls on tinder, that is 100 percent about looks.

And let’s not cope that men don’t lose glow.

Balding wrecks a lot of dudes. I had my filter max set at 30 at 24, and the difference between 25-30 was pretty freaking drastic.

Sexually both men and women are shallow and looks based, and younger people will usually win out in that regard.

Men can compensate with money and status but you need A LOT of it, and as already stated but that’s likely to attract a certain type of woman. And not necessarily a quality one.
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Originally Posted By Maylie
This.

Also, gaining money only increases your PROVIDER status.

If we’re just talking about sex, ie sleeping with young girls on tinder, that is 100 percent about looks.

And let’s not cope that men don’t lose glow.

Balding wrecks a lot of dudes. I had my filter max set at 30 at 24, and the difference between 25-30 was pretty freaking drastic.

Sexually both men and women are shallow and looks based, and younger people will usually win out in that regard.

Men can compensate with money and status but you need A LOT of it, and as already stated but that’s likely to attract a certain type of woman. And not necessarily a quality one.
Well a 90k decent job isn't exactly "money & status" as the misc likes to believe.
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Originally Posted By Maylie
This.

Also, gaining money only increases your PROVIDER status.

If we’re just talking about sex, ie sleeping with young girls on tinder, that is 100 percent about looks.

And let’s not cope that men don’t lose glow.

Balding wrecks a lot of dudes. I had my filter max set at 30 at 24, and the difference between 25-30 was pretty freaking drastic.

Sexually both men and women are shallow and looks based, and younger people will usually win out in that regard.

Men can compensate with money and status but you need A LOT of it, and as already stated but that’s likely to attract a certain type of woman. And not necessarily a quality one.
why is it so hard for miscers to admit this
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What I learned from this thread (lmao)

Money helps and opens good opportunities if you use it right.
You have to socialmax.
You need good aging genetics for your peak to last longer
You can't be too frugal and have to floss more, especially the older you get.



I like transformation stories but unfortunately those seem rare but I'm going to moneymax and travelmax (which I believe will boost test and street smart-charm skills a lot of poor guys seem to get naturally by growing up in the 'hood')
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Well a 90k decent job isn't exactly "money & status" as the misc likes to believe.
Depends where you are.

I live in New York and the young gold digging sloots would laugh in old dude’s face if he came with that amount.

In rural Idaho, he’d probably be in much higher demand.
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we need to purge Maylie immediately
Baby needs a diaper change?

Bite me.
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Baby needs a diaper change?

Bite me.
u too thicc for me
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Originally Posted By Hardlifter9
Well a 90k decent job isn't exactly "money & status" as the misc likes to believe.
It's not nuts, I agree. But most miscers seem to think 80k jobs are the norm. If you are 35 making 90k all comp.... you are a top 16%er for your age. That's not bad
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What I don't get is why chicks in their 40s and 50s get young Chads in their early 20s. SilenceSpeaks has guy in his early 20s. I try to get with women at the gym, but they are flirting with the 20 year old Chads.

So is it reverse for women that they do gain value with age, as all of a sudden young guys want a MILF porn fantasy?
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Originally Posted By bretmarathon
What I don't get is why chicks in their 40s and 50s get young Chads in their early 20s. SilenceSpeaks has guy in his early 20s. I try to get with women at the gym, but they are flirting with the 20 year old Chads.

So is it reverse for women that they do gain value with age, as all of a sudden young guys want a MILF porn fantasy?
They're desperate and easy. Guys will always go for easy.
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