Girl I talked to said regarding age range she won't date more than 6 months younger or more than 6 years older. Several other girls I've talked to said they prefer dating guys who are a bit older than them. My ex is three months older than me and commented how it was weird that I was younger than her multiple times. IME girls want guys that are both older than them (however slightly) and make more money than them. Makes them feel "provided" for.

May be a bit of a stretch to say a 50 year old is way more attractive than his 20 year old self. But a 30-40 yr old dude who is financially successful, keeps in shape, and doesn't lose his hair will probably have an easier time landing dates and finding girls who want a relationship than his 20-yr old self. Financial stability, maturity, and a professional career are attractive to women. The inverse isn't really true for women. I mean dudes maylikea girl in a high-status career who makes good money, but it's not attractive to them in the same way as it is for women. Just basic gender biology, women want a provider.

It just so happens that most men (and women) let themselves go completely as they age and life sets in.

To be fair, your idea of good-looking isn't everyones. I'd bet I wouldn't be so interested in those guys you see. lolNah. I've had quite a few very persistent young guys come after me as I said no over and over.Can confirm.

Most guys are not 6'4. And the vast majority of guys could never be a 7 minus with plastic surgery.On the casual scene, a guy cannot compete. Unless you're a 9+ or famous etc. you're so far off a 7-8 woman on the market that it's laughable to even try and compare.
And no, even for LTR (while it's muchhh closer), the woman still has the upper hand.

I also think you underestimate how rare a 8/10 guy in his 40s is.
What's looksmaxing? When a guy is into a girl, they're *usually* into them even when they wear no makeup or are sick. And guess what? It works the same for women. You cannot fluctuate your attractiveness. Unless you're fat/bloated and drop to 8% bf, or dress like a hobo or something most changes are entirely subtle and not noticeable.So you said you're a 7, and you got with a 7 who's into older guys. What exactly is so mind blowing in your story? I guess I'm not understanding the point you're trying to make.
If girls are into you, they make it easy. And being into someone is largely determined by their looks (you can even exclude height and body).

I'll PM you both a generic face pic of myself for all the people in here who think I'm personally bitter.

We'll always be able to bond over Chris Hemsworth doe. lolI don't think you're bitter at all. PM me a pic though and I will vouch for you.And this is where looks are subjective. I don't think that guy or Spade is a 7. They're not my type. Shrug. Doesn't mean I have to bash on someone.

Done

Not that much different than my ex wife who selected me because (among other reasons) she believed Id be able to provide for her/our children while she stayed at home to raise them. She went on a feeling she had since I was 24 and broke when we met, but turned out she was right.

I also think the girls 10 years younger look at it as an opportunity to have a child since their chances are beginning to dwindle.

The point wasn't to boast. The point was that doesn't happen the other way around. 20-30 yo men aren't tryna get a 40yo pregnant.

I rarely go out to bars w/o dates but did last year totally randomly, and made out with a hot 20yo Latina (she had a fake id to get in the bar)...was about to take her to a hotel but her friends cockblocked me. So I went into a another bar down the street and pulled a 28 yo (who also had a friend cockblocking)...we took a taxi back to her place then smashed.

Girls I've matched on bumble have asked me "why are you even on this app? You can go into any bar and pick up any girl you want" (which I wish was true lol)

The answer is simple. Because I have more choices on dating apps/don't need to pay cover charges, drinks, etc...calculating subscription costs online dating is more efficient and less expensive for me.

And I made out with the Brazilian/felt her up on our 1st date after only taking her to the beach which cost nothing.

Back in the days it was expected a man pays for dates now if I buy a girl a glass of wine then bang Im a john lol.

Plus I've posted enough convos with girls from seeking that just wanted to phuck, so it's funny you still think "Im paying for it" ... Most girls (unless they are alcoholics or starving) don't give up pussy for just a drink or meal so there's evidently more to the equation you are choosing to ignore.That's not dread game. And I responded to a poster that was using SS as an example. I didn't bring her into this thread as an example, others did.

Still not sure how I insulted her, and that was definitely NOT my intention.

idk. Face>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Great looking guys in their 30s can still smash college girls with relative ease

OP is very attractive!

I've had similar experiences. Maybe it is a porn thing. lol

inb4 "I must be bitter to make this thread" cause I can't have a discussion on something while excluding personal exps.

The reality is supply and demand dictates a lot.

While there are plenty of old dudes who would like to date and or smash younger, most young women don’t want to date someone much older.

It’s a small pool of gold diggers and or women with daddy issues as already stated.

They’re very rarely going to be the top tier of quality women in that age group.

And why would they? Younger men are far more attractive physically and for resources you can go slightly older.

Lol at your wine cope.

Just really lmao, go ask a gay man or a straight woman what happens to most men from 30-40. It’s not pretty. I’ve always found it funny how straight men are somehow experts on the physical appearances of other men.

In 10-20 years Timothy is going to be amongst those white dudes in Thailand bragging about the fact that their country has running water to score some desperate gold digger.

Those threads will be fun.

Nope. Definitely not a porn thing. Specifically impregnating milfs or mature women has never been a trend in porn.

lol I think that's just the Misc way. If you don't agree with someone call them bitter or jealous.

Non skanky normal attractive 20 year old girls don't want 40+ yr olds. Someone 5-10 years their senior, sure maybe. 20 yrs older? Nope. Nope. Nope.

You mention key points. Quality chicks get with someone their own age in their 20s. Those who want more resources may go a little bit older. And gold diggers go for legit millonaires.


But I thought guys transformed from their 20s --> 30s/40s??

Wow 11 pages of grown men talking about looks, age and attracting females.
Has anyone in this thread ever thought about their own values?
A lot of people in this thread will never be happy because they have ****ty values. They care about looks, attractiveness, money, all external things. Has anyone ever considered valuing things such as honesty, humbleness , charity, treating others how they want to be treated?

I will pray for everyone in this thread.

eeww... impregnating milfs? things are getting out of hand, that's too much...

I have no trouble believing spade getting young girls. If he is good at sex, already huge, since most random hook ups are just bad sex. Second he has a bad boy vibe, which is attractive. And he is fun to be around, i.e, not boring. And if he, on top of it, is successful, what is there not to like? He's no dummy, either.

Yes, I was a non skanky 20 year old girl too many many many years ago. I had older guys hitting on me and while I could say they were objectively attractive I would never have jumped into bed with them or dated them. In my 20's the biggest age gap I ever dated was 8 years and that was a one off. Most were within a few years plus or minus of me.Good to know! lol Wonder what it's all abut then?

I always liked older guys. But now I'm so old myself, there's nobody left for me. My dating pool died!

Obviously its for your resources...

Middle aged people are weird here, spending time arguing online who can and cannot have sex with whatever age group haha.

The chick in her 40s looks 10,000 times better than the chick in her 20s. You dun goofed to find a fitness-oriented woman your age. Women in their 40s who look like that are as rare as finding treasure chests.

Believe me, I'd love to hook up with chicks in their 20s and so would my buddies. But that's not going to happen unless we pay them. It's complete bullish*t that 40 year old women women can get hot 20 year old Chads now. It wasn't that way 20 years ago, before MILF porn came on the scene. At that point chicks could only date guys her age and older.

So maybe when we're in our sixties, that's the fetish now? Kool.

Exactly.

I don’t expect or need a guy my own age to have resources, I want someone I find attractive and who I have things in common with. My boyfriend is constantly making references based off of early 2000’s cartoons, which I love, and one of those small little things that happens when you date someone you can really relate to based on similar upbringing and life experience.

Additionally, taking some old guy home to meet my family would go over like a lead balloon.

We can build resources later, together. I wouldn’t date a loser with no prospects, but I’m not dating some bald old dude just for his money either.

I don’t know all of these 20’s women IRL who are scrambling to marry and have babies with middle aged men.

I want to grow old together, I don’t want someone to be old already when I get there.

Maylie is on point today. Especially your last sentence.