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post 1572879301 02-04-2019, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
I do a kind of version of it, though not for any of the benefits mentioned. I just get super hungry by dinner if I don't delay my earlier meals until later in the day.
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
You have to be trolling... if not no point in arguing with you
not trolling, CICO equals weight loss

There are certainly more preferable ways of eating but consuming less than you expend will result in weight loss.

Higher protons and resistance training will reduce lbm loss

Whole foods will promote satiety and long term success

Weight loss is not complicated, sry bby
post 1572880321 02-04-2019, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By awwchit2⏩
1800 calories worth of coke is like 10 fukin cans.

that is an extraordinary amount of sugar.

excess glucose = fat storage = bloat lord. you wont lose weight

nevermind the one way trip to diabetes
💯% you'd lose weight as long as your below maintenance
post 1572880471 02-04-2019, 03:20 PM
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post 1572880511 02-04-2019, 03:21 PM
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My understanding is that you don't get any of the big benefits until your doing 24 hour fasts. Like death of cancer cells and improved insulin sensitivity. If your doing 12/12 or 16/8 you're basically just delaying eating, which can definitely save calories but it's not magic.
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post 1572880631 02-04-2019, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Gibb1991⏩
My understanding is that you don't get any of the big benefits until your doing 24 hour fasts. Like death of cancer cells and improved insulin sensitivity. If your doing 12/12 or 16/8 you're basically just delaying eating, which can definitely save calories but it's not magic.
it just depends. the point is at X number of hours into your fast your glycogen will be depleted and your body will start burning fat for energy, optimizing insulin response, generating growth hormones, and sparing muscle. for some people they will enter that state on hour 14 of a fast. others might take more or less time.

24 hours is just another random number
post 1572880751 02-04-2019, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Frank
not trolling, CICO equals weight loss

There are certainly more preferable ways of eating but consuming less than you expend will result in weight loss.

Higher protons and resistance training will reduce lbm loss

Whole foods will promote satiety and long term success

Weight loss is not complicated, sry bby
the truth is actually way, way more complicated than that, starting with the fact that your body is a complex machine, and calories simply dont work that way.

you should really watch dr jung's vid. he basically debunks the myth of calories in vs calories out. its nearly impossible to actually measure calories in and ACTUALLY impossible to measure calories out.

calories in vs calories out is basically a theory that doesnt actually work in the real world
post 1572880821 02-04-2019, 03:26 PM
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I tried it, but with my insulin issues, I'm prone to hypoglycemia. I tried fasting 16 hours and got lightheaded and dizzy. I was slurring my speech, and my boss got worried enough to make me drink juice. A 14/10 split is about all I can do without a severe blood sugar crash.
post 1572880911 02-04-2019, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Hazel1440⏩
I tried it, but with my insulin issues, I'm prone to hypoglycemia. I tried fasting 16 hours and got lightheaded and dizzy. I was slurring my speech, and my boss got worried enough to make me drink juice. A 14/10 split is about all I can do without a severe blood sugar crash.
the whole point is to have a blood sugar crash. its temporary and would actually improve your insulin response. id incorporate some black coffee or green tea and i think after grinding through it for a few days youll be feeling much better.
post 1572880971 02-04-2019, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Frank
not trolling, CICO equals weight loss

There are certainly more preferable ways of eating but consuming less than you expend will result in weight loss.

Higher protons and resistance training will reduce lbm loss

Whole foods will promote satiety and long term success

Weight loss is not complicated, sry bby
Why are you fat then?
post 1572881031 02-04-2019, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
the whole point is to have a blood sugar crash. its temporary and would actually improve your insulin response. id incorporate some black coffee or green tea and i think after grinding through it for a few days youll be feeling much better.
I can't drink caffeine. That's a separate issue, but my Dr specifically said not to fast, and my blood sugar crashes can be life-threatening with my insulin issues.
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
the truth is actually way, way more complicated than that, starting with the fact that your body is a complex machine, and calories simply dont work that way.

you should really watch dr jung's vid. he basically debunks the myth of calories in vs calories out. its nearly impossible to actually measure calories in and ACTUALLY impossible to measure calories out.

calories in vs calories out is basically a theory that doesnt actually work in the real world
You're retarded bro

Literally millions of people have lost weight simply by shoving less food into their pie hole.
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Originally Posted By Hazel1440⏩
I can't drink caffeine. That's a separate issue, but my Dr specifically said not to fast, and my blood sugar crashes can be life-threatening with my insulin issues.
you should really watch dr jung's video i linked. did you know drs. give out absolutely terrible diet related advice all the time? if you never fast, you'll never burn any stored fat.

plz watch vid
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Originally Posted By Frank
not trolling, CICO equals weight loss

There are certainly more preferable ways of eating but consuming less than you expend will result in weight loss.

Higher protons and resistance training will reduce lbm loss

Whole foods will promote satiety and long term success

Weight loss is not complicated, sry bby
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post 1572881411 02-04-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
Why are you fat then?
Alcohol/laziness/gluttony

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Originally Posted By Frank
You're retarded bro

Literally millions of people have lost weight simply by shoving less food into their pie hole.
hey this is a really stupid comment but at least you got you're right

also the goal is not to lose weight - its to losefat

enjoy your ignorance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZCfmgzoS0
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
you should really watch dr jung's video i linked. did you know drs. give out absolutely terrible diet related advice all the time?

plz watch vid
I'm super familiar with Jason Fung. I've read his books and watched several of his videos, a couple more than an hour long.
post 1572881571 02-04-2019, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
hey this is a really stupid comment but at least you got you're right

enjoy your ignorance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZCfmgzoS0
At least you got you're right

I actually watched that video about a month ago and it made a lot of sense - in how eating small meals many times a day is almost unbearable torture, while fasting and eating during a window is much easier. I don't know the science behind it but when I eat breakfast say at 8am I'm ravenous by 10am. If I don't eat till 1pm I'm hungry again at 3 or 4. Basically IF is a cheat code for me to keep my calories down.

I'll rep you later for the vid because it helps prospective cutters but weight loss is not complicated, you are doing your peers a disservice by saying so.
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Originally Posted By Hazel1440⏩
I'm super familiar with Jason Fung. I've read his books and watched several of his videos, a couple more than an hour long.
whats the point in reading books and watching vids if you don't listen to any of the advice?
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Originally Posted By Frank
You're retarded bro

Literally millions of people have lost weight simply by shoving less food into their pie hole.
yet society has never been fatter. solid advice. eat less, move more. works 100% (not srs)
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I do IF because otherwise I’ll 100% cheat on my diet lmao.

I’ll have 500 cals around 1pm and then 1500 cals around 7-8pm and then start my fast.


Although I do drink coffee with some skim milk during the mornings so ...
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
you should really watch dr jung's video i linked. did you know drs. give out absolutely terrible diet related advice all the time?

plz watch vid
Of course the amount of calories you use fluctuates day to day and you won't ever know exactly how many you are burning. And food labels are all wrong by around 5% in either direction. But if obese people all started counting their calories just for the general idea of how much they are eating they would start to lose weight.
If you fluctuate between burning 2200 calories a day and 3200 every day and you "track" that you are eating 2400 calories per day (but in reality are probably anywhere from 2200-2600) you will be better off than being the average North American who just yolo's their health away.
Didn't that Doctor also recommend a 5 day fast for health benefits? I'm sure he's correct but in reality most people will not be able to do that even if they had an interest in doing so.
IF is best used to just control the amount you are eating per day. To get benefits beyond that you will really have to dedicate yourself to fasting and even people who are dedicated to fitness will not have an interest in multi day fasts, let alone the general public.
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
yet society has never been fatter. solid advice. eat less, move more. works 100% (not srs)
the guy's a dork. hes completely ignorant to the fact that if you eat less, your metabolism will slow, and your body will burn fewer calories, and you'll stay the same weight. itsproventhat eating less doesnt work if your goal is to preserve muscle and burn fat.
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I do it, have any studies actually said it increases human growth hormone. Heard that before not sure if broscience
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been doing IF for 3 years and seen no gains but havent really lose any either. IF doesn't matter. It's calories in vs out.
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
the guy's a dork. hes completely ignorant to the fact that if you eat less, your metabolism will slow, and your body will burn fewer calories, and you'll stay the same weight. itsproventhat eating less doesnt work if your goal is to preserve muscle and burn fat.
Have you ever lost weight before? Jesus fuk the broscience is strong with you.
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There is absolutely no evidence that there is a single "fat loss" benefit.

There might be hormonal and other health benefits, but in terms of fat loss, no.

The only 100% proven benefit is "convenience" for some people, who find it easier to be in a deficit if they can eat all their calories in a short period of time. But I don't know if that's ideal in terms of muscle protein synthesis.
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Originally Posted By jkanebell⏩
been doing IF for 3 years and seen no gains but havent really lose any either. IF doesn't matter. It's calories in vs out.
theory: if you burn more calories than you consume you will lose weight

reality: if you eat less, your metabolism slows, and you'll burn fewer calories. you wont feel good, and you'll gain weight on fewer calories

reality: if you eat the same on intermittent fasting, your body will burn stored fat for fuel/energy, and you'll losefat
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
yet society has never been fatter. solid advice. eat less, move more. works 100% (not srs)
Yes, society is fat because they are eating less and moving more, society needs to be on snake diet.

People are more sedentary than ever, and calorie dense food is everywhere. Is this something that really needs to be explained?
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
There is absolutely no evidence that there is a single "fat loss" benefit.

There might be hormonal and other health benefits, but in terms of fat loss, no.

The only 100% proven benefit is "convenience" for some people, who find it easier to be in a deficit if they can eat all their calories in a short period of time. But I don't know if that's ideal in terms of muscle protein synthesis.
comes in just to completely ignore scientific evidence in linked video

personally, id trust dr jung's scientific studies vs. dorich on the internet
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