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Originally Posted By triception
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Originally Posted By Wwchamp
Bro you really think we dont have weapons that will blow them the fuk up? They love advertising everything they have but the US keeps chit on lockdown no1 knows what we have
This. Youre kidding yourself if you think uncle sam is using all that money to make some guns and feed soldiers.
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Originally Posted By GravityLee
This. Youre kidding yourself if you think uncle sam is using all that money to make some guns and feed soldiers.
Wasn't the original stealth fighter literally not revealed to the public until it was used in the first gulf war?
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All I know is the b-2 cost about 700-900mil per plane

Efficient right lmao
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Originally Posted By gluon
lol @ cyber attacks crippling the most powerful economy of all time, how do you even begin to think that's possible?

and what do you really know other than speculation, you got Q-clearance?
Yet a single date calculation bug almost plunged a squadron of F22's into the Pacific Ocean. Lets not forget the credit bureau Equifax hack of 150 million peoples data. And that's just stuff that was made public.

I've been into computers and around the internet since before the world wide web was invented. From a macro point of view I have a pretty good understanding of technology since I've literally seen it evolve in front of my eyes.

Everyone has this idea that there is a plethora of wiz-bang computer guys that are like the Varangian Guard working together and pledged to protect what's most important. The truth is every industry in this country has mostly little to mediocre protection against any tech related attack. Yet, the dependency and interconnectedness of tech keeps expanding. And those wiz-bang computer guys are very few and far between. If a well funded group hit the right targets, with the right plan, they could create a domino effect that would send this nation into a panic.

I honestly think people would be freaked if they knew how many recognizable companies in this nation are operating with dog-chit tier security. I have a fellow tech buddy that works for a large corporation (everyone would recognize) that told me something the other day that just blew my mind. It took what i thought was my baseline for dog-chit tier security to a whole new level.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
I honestly think people would be freaked if they knew how many recognizable companies in this nation are operating with dog-chit tier security. I have a fellow tech buddy that works for a large corporation (everyone would recognize) that told me something the other day that just blew my mind. It took what i thought was my baseline for dog-chit tier security to a whole new level.
I work in tech as well and if anything its really shown me how stupid and unaware the average person is. They wait until the worst case scenario actually happens before they pay any real attention. I remember how basic airport security was before 9/11. brb flying with big knives and all sorts of other chit no prob. After 9/11 people paid attention. It will take a computer 9/11 before anyone cares enough.
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This has been going on for over 70 years now. Fact is that if that game every gets played out it's going to be game over for everyone but the roaches. Lets just say Russia's capability really is as good as that and we have nothing to match it (both I doubt). So what, we are more dead than they are. "Hey, we are both dead but you're more dead than me, haha I win"

Globally, as a bonus, when it comes to Nuclear fallout, if the US was nuked, the fallout will mostly fall on Europe and western Russia. If Russia was nuked the fall out will mostly fall on easten Russia and the Pacific.



Best way to prevent anything like this is to learn to respect each other. Russia and the US aren't competitors. Fact is we meddle in their affairs and business a lot more than they do ours. Democrats want military action because Hillary lost in 2016, saying they interfeared in the elections although there is no changing of votes or any hacking, just exposure of Hillary's dirty deeds. Like we can talk, we are the world leader in election meddling.
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Lmao at being worried about this

First strike capability lmao

Who cares if they Nuke us first. If one goes off, they’re all going off. In the end it won’t matter who shot first
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This just in: Reagan is running for President


Let's not forget there's a country that used nukes to stop a war and countries that have not. We all know who's who. Putin is crazy, but not stupid. With that said we should not underestimate or provoke anyone.
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Imagine believing China and the U.S. aren’t light years ahead of every other country in military development

The chit this moron posts astounds me every time

First strike capability isn’t worth **** anymore and if you don’t think we can detonate enemy nukes out of the Fukn bays then you’re a moron
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Little perspective regarding the power of modern nukes.

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Originally Posted By Vexidi
I work in tech as well and if anything its really shown me how stupid and unaware the average person is.They wait until the worst case scenario actually happens before they pay any real attention.I remember how basic airport security was before 9/11. brb flying with big knives and all sorts of other chit no prob. After 9/11 people paid attention. It will take a computer 9/11 before anyone cares enough.
I was in Houston during Harvey. I was amazed how many people just stood around with their thumbs up their arses till the bitter end waiting for someone to come save them. I remember kayaking down my parents street to see if people needed help and some family tried to get me to tow their wheelchair bound grandmother out somehow (single person kayak). The water was rising for days so they had plenty of time to do something before then. It's also interesting how people under stress like that can't think rationally at all. They'd rather drowned saving grandma's fine dining (my parents to a degree) set than walk/drive to safety while they still can.
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[QUOTE=JoshSP1985 post_id=1574190411]Little perspective regarding the power of modern nukes.

[img]https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--sVzqLvsj--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/bkyiwqpnme88tbr1tda2.jpg[img][/QUOTE]It doesn't matter which one is more powerful when there are thousands of them.
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Originally Posted By TommyRO
All I know is the b-2 cost about 700-900mil per plane

Efficient right lmao
Sure when you consider one can destroy a trillion dollars of infrastructure.
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I'm glad I live way out in the country where my family and I may survive as long as no errant warheads get us and the fallout isn't too great here, but for those of you who live at or near known targets like large cities and military bases then it was nice knowin ya!


Seriously, Trump has said for decades that the threat of nuclear war is a huge concern and that he wanted to reduce the numbers and/or altogether rid the world of nukes. I think that this is just a play to get Russia and China to the negotiating table to get a good treaty going ... but we will see ...
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Originally Posted By Jax05
It doesn't matter which one is more powerful when there are thousands of them.
Also true
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No wonder there are so many crazies in the western USA ... all that nuclear radiation... cot damn

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Originally Posted By faxanadu
I was in Houston during Harvey. I was amazed how many people just stood around with their thumbs up their arses till the bitter end waiting for someone to come save them. I remember kayaking down my parents street to see if people needed help and some family tried to get me to tow their wheelchair bound grandmother out somehow (single person kayak). The water was rising for days so they had plenty of time to do something before then. It's also interesting how people under stress like that can't think rationally at all. They'd rather drowned saving grandma's fine dining (my parents to a degree) set than walk/drive to safety while they still can.
Yup. No foresight whatsoever even when a potential problem is staring them right in the face. Those people not only risk their own lives but the lives of the people out there saving them.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
No wonder there are so many crazies in the western USA ... all that nuclear radiation... cot damn

Legit surprised at how many the french tested.
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Man, this crap is all so scary, disappointing and ridiculous! WHY are we in such an antagonistic stance towards Russia?! WHY are our dumba$$ politicians trying to restart the Cold War? Russia is not our enemy-they need not be our enemy. So why are the brain-dead neocons trying to provoke them? Maybe we American citizens need to start writing letters to our congress people, asking them to work towards better relations with Russia. Because a war-cold or otherwise-with Russia does not benefit the average American citizen.

I believe that perhaps Trump has been prevented from de-escalating tensions with Russia by the Russia probe. However I hear that it may be about to end soon. If that is the case, AS SOON as it ends-I hope Trump can sit down with Putin and stop this ****. We don't need to be placing our missiles near them, and they don't need to do that to us.
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What would win in a race? A hypersonic missile or....lasers??

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Originally Posted By ACWBRAH
Man, this crap is all so scary, disappointing and ridiculous! WHY are we in such an antagonistic stance towards Russia?! WHY are our dumba$$ politicians trying to restart the Cold War? Russia is not our enemy-they need not be our enemy. So why are the brain-dead neocons trying to provoke them? Maybe we American citizens need to start writing letters to our congress people, asking them to work towards better relations with Russia. Because a war-cold or otherwise-with Russia does not benefit the average American citizen.

I believe that perhaps Trump has been prevented from de-escalating tensions with Russia by the Russia probe. However I hear that it may be about to end soon. If that is the case, AS SOON as it ends-I hope Trump can sit down with Putin and stop this ****. We don't need to be placing our missiles near them, and they don't need to do that to us.
Your post is very characteristic of what I would say is lack of clarity with how nations, empires, elites, people, and power struggles operate. Elites generally want wealth and power in a world with finite resources. However, they also realize that once they have all that ... they need to keep those under their control pacified. The only reason we give two chits about the middle east is because the stability of the dollar rests on it. Saddam wanted to deal in Euro's ... dead. Qadaffi wanted to usurp the dollar ... dead. Implosion of the dollar and western banking is the biggest thing the elites fear. It's why Nixon took us off the gold standard. Chaos on your borders is far more easily dealt with than chaos within ... especially if that chaos is derived from a starving populace and people who have hit the precipice of unpredictability and irrationality.

Democide (government killing its own people) killed more people in the 20th century than all the wars combined. American stability rests firmly on a strong dollar ... something which innately fks Russia/China ... and which they've been chipping away at. When America was living the dream in the 1950's/1960's pumping out the baby boomer generation ... Russia and China in their instability murdered almost 200 million of their own people.

Guarantee in meetings at the top it's not... "Russia just threatened x,y,z ... get the military ready!" I mean to some extent yes. But It's mostly like... "We have pipelines, oil reserves, economic interests at risk ...how can we most effectively utilize our military resources to protect them?" Obviously that does a virtual 180 if a full scale war breaks out.
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Conservatives will be happy if Putin uses 100 Megaton Thermonuclear Warheads on liberal cities like L.A., New York, and Washington D.C. but Conservatives are too stupid to understand that Conservatives in the middle of the country will suffer more than liberals.
Russias Thermonuclear devices would instantly vaporize Liberals and they would not feel a thing. Conservatives in the middle of the country would have a very long and excruciatingly painful death from nuclear fallout.
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The US for sure already has nukes in space
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Putin wants to die? No.

Putin will never fire a missile.
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Originally Posted By spadelexus
Shut up.

Russia doesn't have an aircraft carrier anymore.
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Originally Posted By faxanadu
Your post is very characteristic of what I would say is lack of clarity with how nations, empires, elites, people, and power struggles operate. Elites generally want wealth and power in a world with finite resources. However, they also realize that once they have all that ... they need to keep those under their control pacified. The only reason we give two chits about the middle east is because the stability of the dollar rests on it. Saddam wanted to deal in Euro's ... dead. Qadaffi wanted to usurp the dollar ... dead. Implosion of the dollar and western banking is the biggest thing the elites fear. It's why Nixon took us off the gold standard. Chaos on your borders is far more easily dealt with than chaos within ... especially if that chaos is derived from a starving populace and people who have hit the precipice of unpredictability and irrationality.

Democide (government killing its own people) killed more people in the 20th century than all the wars combined. American stability rests firmly on a strong dollar ... something which innately fks Russia/China ... and which they've been chipping away at. When America was living the dream in the 1950's/1960's pumping out the baby boomer generation ... Russia and China in their instability murdered almost 200 million of their own people.

Guarantee in meetings at the top it's not... "Russia just threatened x,y,z ... get the military ready!" I mean to some extent yes. But It's mostly like... "We have pipelines, oil reserves, economic interests at risk ...how can we most effectively utilize our military resources to protect them?" Obviously that does a virtual 180 if a full scale war breaks out.
Fair enough. But what will these elite win if millions of people die in nuclear fire? Also-regarding what we've done in Iraq, Libya and Syria-MAYBE protecting the dollar WAS a factor in these actions, but I would also argue that expanding Israel's influence in the Middle East was ALSO a factor.....
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Originally Posted By ACWBRAH
Fair enough. But what will these elite win if millions of people die in nuclear fire?
A good amount of elites (especially those born into it) tend to think of commoners as expendable. Historically, war to these people is a great way to free up (dead people don't have to be fed) or acquire resources (assuming you're the victor). Elites and their families are almost never the ones fighting. If they are... they're often in some BS position where there is almost zero chance of them getting hurt/killed. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has used modern computing power to calculate an expected ROI (return on investment) for war/conflict.
Also-regarding what we've done in Iraq, Libya and Syria-MAYBE protecting the dollar WAS a factor in these actions,but I would also argue that expanding Israel's influence in the Middle East was ALSO a factor.....
Israel has a vested interest in the dollar. I think you'd be astonished at how many Jews are at the top of companies and the wealth/power hierarchy considering they only represent .1% of the world population. Something like 1/2 the global population of jews (13-14 million) live in North America (mostly USA).

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Samuel Sachs, co-founder of Goldman Sachs[283]
Peter Schiff, CEO and chief global strategist of Euro Pacific Capital Inc.[287][288]
James Warburg, former banker and financial adviser to Franklin D. Roosevelt[323][324]
Paul Warburg, former chairman of the Bank of the Manhattan Company (predecessor of Chase Manhattan Bank) and director of the Federal Reserve Bank[325]
Allen Weisselberg, CFO of The Trump Organization[333]
Burt Baskin, co-founder of Baskin-Robbins ice cream parlor chain[338]
George Cohon, American-born Canadian founder and senior chairman of McDonald's of Canada and Russia[342]
Sidney Frank, U.S. promoter of Grey Goose vodka and Jägermeister[346]
Arnold Greenberg, co-founder of Snapple[354]
William Rosenberg, founder of Dunkin' Donuts[370]
Irene Rosenfeld, chairman and CEO of Mondelez, former CEO of Kraft Foods[371]
Daniel Schwartz, CEO of Restaurant Brands International Inc. (parent company of Burger King)[375]
Zev Siegl, co-founder of the Starbucks Corporation[376][377]
Russell Weiner, founder of Rockstar energy drink[378][379]
Herb Abramson, founder of Atlantic Records[394]
Emile Berliner, co-founder of RCA Records[400]
Jody Gerson, CEO of Universal Music Publishing Group[414]
Goddard Lieberson, former president of Columbia Records and the RIAA[425]
Larry Kirshbaum, chief of publishing, Amazon Publishing; former CEO of Time Warner Book Group[460]
Donald S. Klopfer, co-founder of Random House[461][462]
Jay Levin, founder of LA Weekly[466]
Ross Levinsohn, publisher of the Los Angeles Times, CEO of Tribune Interactive (the digital arm of tronc), former president of Fox Interactive[467]
Peter Mayer, president and co-founder of The Overlook Press, former head of Avon Books, and former CEO of Penguin Books[470][471]
Adolph Ochs, Arthur Hays Sulzberger, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr., The New York Times[473][474]
Norman Pearlstine, media executive, CCO at Bloomberg L.P. and Time Inc., former executive editor of the Wall Street Journal[475][476]
David J. Pecker, chairman and CEO of American Media, Inc. (National Enquirer, Us Weekly, Star, Flex, Globe, Men's Fitness)[477]
M. Lincoln Schuster, Austrian-born co-founder of Simon & Schuster[454]
Leon Shimkin, former executive and partner at Simon & Schuster[482][483]
Syd Silverman, former owner and publisher of Variety[484]
Helen Valentine, founder and editor in chief of Seventeen magazine[488][489]
Jann Wenner, publisher of Rolling Stone[490]
Richard Saul Wurman, co-founder of TED[491][492]
Mortimer Zuckerman, Canadian-born publisher of U.S. News and World Report and New York Daily News, chairman of Boston Properties, Inc.[493][494]
Henry and Richard Bloch, founders of tax preparation company H&R Block, Inc.[495]
Morris Mirkin, founder of Budget Rent-a-Car[500][501]
Mark Weinberger, CEO and chairman of multinational professional services firm Ernst & Young (EY)[502][503]
Stewart Rahr, founder of Kinray, the largest privately owned pharmaceutical distributor in the world[509][510]
Martine Rothblatt, founder of biotech company United Therapeutics, co-founder of Sirius Satellite Radio[513][514]
Mortimer and Raymond Sackler, former owners of Purdue Pharma (known for OxyContin)[481]
Sheldon Adelson, casino magnate, founder of the Las Vegas Sands Corporation (owns The Venetian, The Palazzo, Marina Bay Sands)[521][522]
Joseph Cayre, founder of Midtown Equities, co-founder of the GT Interactive Software Corp. (now Atari, Inc.)[529][538][539]
Steve Wynn, Las Vegas casino owner, founder and CEO of Wynn Resorts[683][684][685]
Jeffrey Brotman, co-founder and chairman of the Costco Wholesale Corporation[708][709]
Kenneth Cole, founder of Kenneth Cole Productions[712]
Donald and Doris F. Fisher, founders of The Gap, Inc.[131]
Dave Gold, founder of 99 Cents Only Stores[728]
Shira Goodman, president and CEO of Staples, Inc.[729]
John D. Hertz, Slovak-born founder of the Yellow Cab Company[736][737]
Calvin Klein, co-founder of Calvin Klein Inc.[744]
Ralph Lauren, fashion designer, founder of the Ralph Lauren Corporation[739]
Paul Marciano, Moroccan-born co-founder of fashion company GUESS[750]
Bernard Marcus, co-founder of Home Depot[751]
Lawrence Marcus, former VP of the Women's Department of family-founded Neiman Marcus[752]
Alfred Marshall, co-founder of off-price department store Marshalls, Inc.[753]
David May, founder of The May Department Stores Company (now Macy's, Inc.)[754]
Les Wexner, chairman and CEO of L Brands, Inc. (owns Victoria's Secret, Bath & Body Works)[783][784]
Morris B. Zale, Russian-born co-founder of Texas-based jewelry retailer, the Zale Corporation[785]
George Zimmer, founder of Men's Wearhouse[786]
Beny Alagem, Israeli-American founder of Packard Bell, owner of The Beverly Hilton[788][789]
Amir Ashkenazi, Israeli-American co-founder of Adap.tv and Shopping.com[792][793]
Julian A. Brodsky, co-founder of Comcast Corporation[800]
Safra A. Catz, Israeli-born co-CEO of Oracle Corporation[801]
Michael Dell, founder, chairman and CEO of DELL[806]
Bennett Greenspan, founder of Family Tree DNA[817][818]
Eli Harari, Israeli-American co-founder of SanDisk Corporation[820]
Irwin M. Jacobs, co-founder of Qualcomm[824]
Mitch Kapor, founder of Lotus Software, co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)[827][828]
Bobby Kotick, CEO of Activision Blizzard[835]
Eric Lefkofsky, co-founder of Groupon[840]
Sandy Lerner, co-founder of Cisco Systems and cosmetics brand Urban Decay[841]
Joey Levin, CEO of media and Internet company IAC/InterActiveCorp (holds Vimeo LLC, Match Group, Inc., Tinder, Ask.com)[844]
David Litman, co-founder of Hotels.com[847][848]
Craig Newmark, founder of Craigslist[858]
Larry Page, co-founder of Google, Inc., CEO of Alphabet Inc.[862]
Henry Samueli, co-founder of Broadcom Corporation, owner of NHL's Anaheim Ducks (founded in 1993 by Disney as the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim)[879]
Sheryl Sandberg, COO of ********[880]
Ivan Seidenberg, former chairman and CEO of Verizon Communications[884]
Terry Semel, former chairman and CEO of both Yahoo! and Warner Bros[885][886][887]
Jeff Weiner, CEO of Linkedin[900]
Devin Wenig, CEO of eBay[901]
Anne Wojcicki, CEO and co-founder of 23andme[902]
Susan Wojcicki, CEO of YouTube[902]
John Zimmer, co-founder of on-demand transportation company Lyft[907]
Mark Zuckerberg, co-founder and CEO of ********[908]
Avi Arad, Israeli-American founder and CEO of Marvel Studios, LLC[911]
Jeff Gaspin, former chairman of NBC Universal Television Entertainment[935]
William Goetz, co-founder of Twentieth Century Pictures (later 20th Century Fox)[939]
Leonard Goldenson, president of ABC[940]

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Originally Posted By sandaltan
trumpers love putin
I’m pretty sure it’s the libtards that love Putin they are the only ones who constantly talk about him.
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