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post 1575745601 03-13-2019, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser
Prove people that hate social justice are "Right Wing". Hint: I know plenty who aren't.
I didn't say that they all were or that only right wingers get offended by SJWs. I was just saying that the right wing types always make fun of the leftists for getting triggered when they also get just as triggered for different reasons.

Honestly, I don't like Brie Larson for the way she worded her white dude comments. Her intent was good, but the way she said it came off as exclusionary (in contrast to her overall message of inclusion) but the way that the right wing and left wing types just took her words and created this "outrage" was just absurd.

Two sides of the same coin.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Honestly, I think the post credit scene won't have much of an impact unless you watch the movie.

The movie explains why Fury has her as a personal contact (and why he had a pager in 2018), and why she has a such a close relationship to Fury.

I loved the look on her face in the post-credit scene... She meant business.

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Originally Posted By irollurmom
Honestly, I don't like Brie Larson for the way she worded her white dude comments. Her intent was good, but the way she said it came off as exclusionary (in contrast to her overall message of inclusion) but the way that the right wing and left wing types just took her words and created this "outrage" was just absurd.

Two sides of the same coin.
You can probably blame the media for spinning Larson’s comment that way to rile up men and garner attention. The reaction is crazy, but it’s completely confined to the Internet. I could go ask 20 people in my office about this and none would have a clue what I’m taking about. Or the most they would know is some news headline that vaguely mentions trolls and rotten tomatoes
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I hope this is some low-effort trolling, especially when you compared her to Tony, who actually had to work for everything he achieved, and faced a ton of struggle. And actually had a character arc, where he left behind the billionaire playboy idgaf act after getting smoked by his own weapons and watching people around him die. And so on.

The movie is the cinematic version of an idiotic fanfiction where the teenage "author" comes up with a self-insert character who is flawless, super speshul, all powerful, is liked by everyone and is somehow connected to everything that happens. They made 20 fuking movies without ever mentioning her, then "introduce" her in a post-credit scene in IW and state that "oh btw, she's the most powerful Avenger ever (also the sole reason the Avengers are called the Avengers), stay tuned".

The single fuking reason that they could pull this off is because of everyone and everything else. Whole premise, character and story are pure trash.

And no, not because of the gender or the actress, the same would apply if Marvel was a macho manly dude, or a ghey muslim transformer or whatever. It's simply lame.
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Originally Posted By wincel
My argument against you wasn't that you were a liberal. It's that the movie was propaganda and dogchit. You basically said "Even if they did all those things, you'd still hate it because you're a sexist". That's complete bs and you are labeling me and trying to use the label to attack my point. Meanwhile, I made a good case about what, specifically, is fuked in the movie.

Again,

Nope. Solid 2/10. Why? Because it's a fuking disappointment. For an MCU movie, it should have been better. They could have done it Memento style. It could have had a lot more subtlety and mystery. Or they could have started it with her as a human rather than her in the Kree homeworld. They should have left that refugee chit out to make way for a secret invasion narrative. They should have had her be vulnerable and weak, but overcome those things. They should have demonstrated she was a hero before she ever got her powers. Captain America 1 did a great job developing his character at least. The action dragged on and the movie went longer than it needed to, but I feel like if they had done a similar kind of introduction of her character, it would have been much better. We should have seen her overcome adversity as a young girl, join up with the military, go through training, etc. They could have spent a lot more time on this, whether through flashbacks or through a direct narrative. They didn't do it well at all IMO. I just didn't give a fuk about her, and she became a superhero way too fast. Like all female characters, she tended to be perfect and flawless from the get go because every female hero is a fuking god damn Mary Sue. The bad guy was also not interesting at all. He was just a generic white nationalist. OFC. Fuk this movie.
Brah, you don't even know what "liberal" means. I have no idea why I even bother arguing with you.
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Wtf you guys still watch superhero movies? Last time I watched I was 19 and I was the oldest in the cinema.
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Originally Posted By Kirra
Brah, you don't even know what "liberal" means. I have no idea why I even bother arguing with you.
Again, you refuse to argue the point. I made specific arguments about why the movie is horsechit.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Again, you refuse to argue the point. I made specific arguments about why the movie is horsechit.
You're entitled to your opinion and I don't give enough of a fuk to argue about a superhero movie with some virgin on the internet.

I do however find it amusing that you don't know what the word "liberal" means.
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Can't wait to see this movie just so I can figure out who is being an idiot ITT and who is actually making valid points lmao

Until then, i'll be here with my popcorn
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Originally Posted By Zackad
Can't wait to see this movie just so I can figure out who is being an idiot ITT and who is actually making valid points lmao

Until then, i'll be here with my popcorn
All you have to do is take a look at OP's username and all becomes clear.
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Originally Posted By Kirra
You're entitled to your opinion and I don't give enough of a fuk to argue about a superhero movie with some virgin on the internet.

I do however find it amusing that you don't know what the word "liberal" means.
"I refuse to refute your valid points, and will instead continue to focus on this red herring."
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Why do you all keep responding to one of the worst posters on the misc srs? Dude averages 20 posts a day of nothing but crying about women.

Movie was a lot better than I expected. Not to say it was great, it was middle of the road for me as far as Marvel movies goes. Liked it more than Black Panther, but no where near as good as Infinity War, Iron Man 1, Avengers, GOTG, CA 2 and 3.

My only problem with the girl power chit, funnily enough, is that they didn't do anything with it. You get like 2 scenes of "you're a girl tho" and there is absolutely no pay off. They needed to have a villain or side character mocking her gender for there to be any pay off when the "I'm Just a Girl" song started playing. She didn't face any misogyny in the actual main story line, just a little bit in a couple of flash backs. The enemies she fights not only have no problem with women (they even trained her), they don't have problems with other races either. It which takes all the wind out of the entire female power theme.

I liked Brie Larson more or less, but the plot didn't give her much to work with. She's essentially already Captain Marvel when we meet her, so we just spend the whole moving waiting for the plot to catch up with what we already know. Her character has absolutely no real arc, or growth, outside of "oh, now I remember!"

She was a little Mary Sue'ish to be fair. She didn't really have any struggles, loss, or difficulties in the movie. Just BAMF'd her way out of everything pretty much every situation.

Other than that, it's a standard Marvel movie. Still better than anything DC has put out (I haven't seen Aquaman), though to be fair, if Wonder Woman didn't completely chit the bed in the third act, it would have been the better movie.

So yeah, I place it in the middle tier of marvel movies, with films like Black Panther, Dr. Strange, and Antman.



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Originally Posted By Tanerian
I liked Brie Larson more or less, but the plot didn't give her much to work with. She's essentially already Captain Marvel when we meet her, so we just spend the whole moving waiting for the plot to catch up with what we already know. Her character has absolutely no real arc, or growth, outside of "oh, now I remember!"

She was a little Mary Sue'ish to be fair. She didn't really have any struggles, loss, or difficulties in the movie. Just BAMF'd her way out of everything pretty much situation.
Thank you for completely repeating exactly what I fuking said, cuck.
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Originally Posted By wincel
"I refuse to refute your valid points, and will instead continue to focus on this red herring."
Brah, you can think what you want. I truly do not give a fuk, keep hating women and not getting laid lol.

This whole labeling people you disagree with as "liberal" thing is fun though. But I get that you don't wanna argue that lol, considering the fact that you know you've mislabeled my political stance.
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Originally Posted By Kirra
Brah, you can think what you want. I truly do not give a fuk, keep hating women and not getting laid lol.

This whole labeling people you disagree with as "liberal" thing is fun though. But I get that you don't wanna argue that lol, considering the fact that you know you've mislabeled my political stance.
Not interested in debating your political stance. I don't know you, and Idgaf about you. I pointed out the problems with the movie. Other posters have voices the exact same criticisms. It's clear there were issues with the movie. It is by no means a hit. If the best liberal critics can do for it, in spite of its agenda, is offer lukewarm praise for it, it's a sign that it is probably a fuking flop. This movie is going to be remembered with Iron Man 3 -- that is to say, it will be a forgotten pile of horsechit.
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Of course there are some feminism points in the movie - 2 female pilots and a female assassin. But i dont think it was overboard.

I watched it and enjoyed it. Typical 9/10 entertainment, 9/10 CGI, story 3/10 Marvel movie.

I liked that she was hotheaded. Both her and Tony are alike some other person said.

Having said that, i dont think it was any worse than Black Panther. Black Panther cleaning up the Oscars is some bullchit sjw crap.

They are both entertaining action flicks with limited story. They both met my expectations and i enjoyed them for WHAT they are.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Thank you for completely repeating exactly what I fuking said,cuck.
Not sure how you of all people are using that word to insult people lmfao.
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Originally Posted By Kirra
Brah, you can think what you want. I truly do not give a fuk, keep hating women and not getting laid lol.

This whole labeling people you disagree with as "liberal" thing is fun though. But I get that you don't wanna argue that lol, considering the fact that you know you've mislabeled my political stance.
You label people you disagree with as either white, misogynist, or racist.
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They can censor whatever chit they want. The movie is garbage, and everyone fuking knows it.

They want to remove all free speech and criticism and pretend everything is great. Fuking joke.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Not interested in debating your political stance. I don't know you, and Idgaf about you. I pointed out the problems with the movie. Other posters have voices the exact same criticisms. It's clear there were issues with the movie. It is by no means a hit. If the best liberal critics can do for it, in spite of its agenda, is offer lukewarm praise for it, it's a sign that it is probably a fuking flop. This movie is going to be remembered with Iron Man 3 -- that is to say, it will be a forgotten pile of horsechit.
I'm pretty sure everyone ITT is agreeing on the issues with the movie. I'm also pretty sure that you and that other unfukable incel are the only people ITT who are getting their panties in a bunch over that movie. The rest of us rolled our eyes at a couple of the scenes and moved on with our life.

You are literally the same as the left wing SJW that you're hating on all the time. It's the whole "closeted gay man goes gay bashing" thing in a different form.

You're blowing this minor thing out of proportion and acting like your "group" is under attack. That sounds awfully familiar don't you think?
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Originally Posted By Kirra
I'm pretty sure everyone ITT is agreeing on the issues with the movie. I'm also pretty sure that you and that other unfukable incel are the only people ITT who are getting their panties in a bunch over that movie. The rest of us rolled our eyes at a couple of the scenes and moved on with our life.

You are literally the same as the left wing SJW that you're hating on all the time. It's the whole "closeted gay man goes gay bashing" thing in a different form.

You're blowing this minor thing out of proportion and acting like your "group" is under attack. That sounds awfully familiar don't you think?
It's not a minor thing when RT is deleting negative reviews to promote their agenda. It's a war on free speech. Disney has actually convinced an army of cuck retards to shill for their poor quality products. Monopoly gonna monopoly. I think it is ironic and sad that the leftists who rally against corporate influence fail to see the manipulation being done in their own lives.
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Originally Posted By Kirra
I'm pretty sure everyone ITT is agreeing on the issues with the movie. I'm also pretty sure that you and that other unfukable incel are the only people ITT who are getting their panties in a bunch over that movie.
I'm pretty sure your only "arguments" have been to label people sexist or incels throughout this thread.
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Originally Posted By wincel
It's not a minor thing when RT is deleting negative reviews to promote their agenda. It's a war on free speech. Disney has actually convinced an army of cuck retards to shill for their poor quality products. Monopoly gonna monopoly. I think it is ironic and sad that the leftists who rally against corporate influence fail to see the manipulation being done in their own lives.
> talks about free speech
> doesn't know what free speech actually means

You're free to say what ever you want and can't be persecuted by the government for doing so - unless it incites harm or violence, among other caveats. RT is aprivate company. They're allowed to remove any and all comments that they want to.

You're right on the 2nd part. It's all corporate manipulation, including your anger. They WANT people to have this sort of back-and-forth to generate controversy. They want people to rally against this movie, and in turn, have people on the opposing side to rally for it.

This movie would not have made $455M opening weekend without this "outrage". You're saying all this stuff to the other users ITT and you fail to realize that you are just another puppet for these big corporations to manipulate.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser
You label people you disagree with as either white, misogynist, or racist.
The difference is that I correctly label people those things were as you two ****lords keep calling me a liberal when you don't even know what that word means.
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The difference is that I correctly label people those things were as you two ****lords keep calling me a liberal when you don't even know what that word means.
Wrong on both counts. Shocking.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
> talks about free speech
> doesn't know what free speech actually means

You're free to say what ever you want and can't be persecuted by the government for doing so - unless it incites harm or violence, among other caveats. RT is aprivate company. They're allowed to remove any and all comments that they want to.

You're right on the 2nd part. It's all corporate manipulation, including your anger. They WANT people to have this sort of back-and-forth to generate controversy. They want people to rally against this movie, and in turn, have people on the opposing side to rally for it.

This movie would not have made $455M opening weekend without this "outrage". You're saying all this stuff to the other users ITT and you fail to realize that you are just another puppet for these big corporations to manipulate.
And I said "they can censor whatever they want". Did you see the video where the woman wanted to push for legislation against "review bombing" or did you miss that part? Shut the fuk up.
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Originally Posted By wincel
It's not a minor thing when RT is deleting negative reviews to promote their agenda. It's a war on free speech. Disney has actually convinced an army of cuck retards to shill for their poor quality products. Monopoly gonna monopoly. I think it is ironic and sad that the leftists who rally against corporate influence fail to see the manipulation being done in their own lives.
What monopoly? If you don't like what RT is doing you can set up your own movie review site and let whoever you want to review films on there. Or you can choose from a myriad of other already existing sites that you don't think are censoring comments.
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What monopoly? If you don't like what RT is doing you can set up your own movie review site and let whoever you want to review films on there. Or you can choose from a myriad of other already existing sites that you don't think are censoring comments.
Disney. The monopoly I was referring to was Disney.

My point was that Disney is manipulating media sites to promote a positive portrayal of their subpar products. There was even a documented case of them attempting to stifle criticism from the LA Times. They are soon going to acquire Fox. It's disgusting. I'm fuking sick of these people, and I'm sick of cucks shilling for them.
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OP shut the fuk up. I hate how everyone says "no one can stand seeing a strong independent woman", like we havent seen successful strong woman on the big screen.

Her acting is terrible, her fight scenes are terrible, her ass is terrible. Everything about her is terrible, it's as if she didnt even try during the movie at all. The movie was saved by all the supporting actors, but even then, it wasnt enough to make the movie enjoyable.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Disney. The monopoly I was referring to was Disney.

My point was that Disney is manipulating media sites to promote a positive portrayal of their subpar products. There was even a documented case of them attempting to stifle criticism from the LA Times. They are soon going to acquire Fox. It's disgusting. I'm fuking sick of these people, and I'm sick of cucks shilling for them.
- is sick of Disneys (monopoly)
- paid to see a movie made by a company owned by Disney
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