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Thread: How Do Incels Still Exist In This Day and Age?? (discussion) (srs)

post 1576703781 03-26-2019, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
You said it's easy to get laid on Tinder. It's not, and I'm sick of people acting like it's easy to do **** that for some of us is objectively impossible. That's why I negged your dumb ass.
Brah it may not be easy but its not difficult. Don't be looking for the 10/10s and go for someone in your league. I have 3 people that I can text/call to hang out off of tinder. Reading from your post you are severely lacking in self-confidence. Negging someone for your lack of self-esteem. Cmon bruh. Be social put a smile on. Something will happen eventually.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
What are the hoops exactly? Going on a date? Getting to actually know someone? Maybe buying lunch? None of that easy chit is worth a fulfilling relationship, it at the very least, since mediocre sex?
It's all a pain in the ass unless she shows obvious interest. Girls can at least have their friend talk to you or something to help out. The average dude doesn't want to holler at random girls or try to sway through beta orbiters in public just to talk to some random sloot.
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Originally Posted By PuppyLife⏩
Brah it may not be easy but its not difficult. Don't be looking for the 10/10s and go for someone in your league. You are in much better shape and I have 3 people that I can text/call to hang out off of tinder. Negging someone for your lack of self-esteem. Cmon bruh. Be social put a smile on. Something will happen eventually.
I'm not looking for 10/10's. It's not like you choose who Tinder presents you to match with, you simply swipe the options you are given. You can't force women to match with you, and I've gone upwards of 12 months with no match before. I deleted all forms of online dating ~2 years ago. Utter waste of time.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
It's all a pain in the ass unless she shows obvious interest. Girls can at least have their friend talk to you or something to help out. The average dude doesn't want to holler at random girls or try to sway through beta orbiters in public just to talk to some random sloot.
yeah this, it all feels like some hardcore video game on the highest difficulty. I cant be fuked unless she makes it obvious she is into me.
post 1576704351 03-26-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm not looking for 10/10's. It's not like you choose who Tinder presents you to match with, you simply swipe the options you are given. You can't force women to match with you, and I've gone upwards of 12 months with no match before. I deleted all forms of online dating ~2 years ago. Utter waste of time.
You are completely right. Out of 50 matches, I will probably talk to only 5 and meet up with 2-3. If you don't match then delete and upload diff pictures. Tinder you basically have to pay the monthly fee for matches now. I don't look for relationships on tinder. I am on it for a month then delete for 3-4 months. You've got it. Keep on improving yourself and don't get offended so easily. This is the misc man.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm not looking for 10/10's. It's not like you choose who Tinder presents you to match with, you simply swipe the options you are given. You can't force women to match with you, and I've gone upwards of 12 months with no match before. I deleted all forms of online dating ~2 years ago. Utter waste of time.
Sorry to say, its because you are bald. That is truly a death sentence on tinder. I'd look into hair transplant options if you have enough donor hair (back of head), it can really do miracles these days given you select the right clinic.
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Originally Posted By PuppyLife⏩
You are completely right. Out of 50 matches, I will probably talk to only 5 and meet up with 2-3. If you don't match then delete and upload diff pictures. Tinder you basically have to pay the monthly fee for matches now. I don't look for relationships on tinder. I am on it for a month then delete for 3-4 months. You've got it. Keep on improving yourself and don't get offended so easily. This is the misc man.
50 matches, please. It'd take me 20 years to get 50 matches.

I don't get offended easily, I just find this to be a sore subject.. and made more so by the mocking tones of people who've never struggled with something I find to be impossible to accomplish.
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Originally Posted By Claud3⏩
yeah this, it all feels like some hardcore video game on the highest difficulty. I cant be fuked unless she makes it obvious she is into me.
This is what happened when i was younger. Girls told their friends to come talk to me or they left notes on my car. A couple even friend requested me on FB. If they can't even do one of those then fuk it.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
50 matches, please. It'd take me 20 years to get 50 matches.

I don't get offended easily, I just find this to be a sore subject.. and made more so by the mocking tones of people who've never struggled with something I find to be impossible to accomplish.
I struggle with finding a woman for relationships. Not trying to mock you, but try deleting the app and upload different pics. We all got our struggles.
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i think im a pretty decent looking dude...but i notice women barely even look around anymore. Like they're in their own little world
post 1576705171 03-26-2019, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm not looking for 10/10's. It's not like you choose who Tinder presents you to match with, you simply swipe the options you are given. You can't force women to match with you, and I've gone upwards of 12 months with no match before. I deleted all forms of online dating ~2 years ago. Utter waste of time.
My wife says I'm horrible at taking photos, so it may be the case for you. If you ever considered going that route again, would you be ok asking some female colleagues for assistance with it? Girls speak their own language when it comes to good pictures, so I'd find some sloot guidance. If that's too awkward to ask IRL, one of the sloots here can probably help.

Dunno if you've done all this though, just brainstorming here.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
My wife says I'm horrible at taking photos, so it may be the case for you. If you ever considered going that route again, would you be ok asking some female colleagues for assistance with it? Girls speak their own language when it comes to good pictures, so I'd find some sloot guidance. If that's too awkward to ask IRL, one of the sloots here can probably help.

Dunno if you've done all this though, just brainstorming here.
It's pointless while I'm still a fatass. If I can lose another 50-70lbs, MAYBE it'll make a difference, but I've been stuck ~289-290 for like 3 weeks now. Fuking plateau's piss me off.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
It's pointless while I'm still a fatass. If I can lose another 50-70lbs, MAYBE it'll make a difference, but I've been stuck ~289-290 for like 3 weeks now. Fuking plateau's piss me off.
I dun goofed and gained 45 lbs. 5'7 and at 30% BF @ 225. Its not that. It will help quite a bit in getting in shape. Take better pictures and report back. How accurate are you in your calorie counting and are you weighing your food? A plateau for that long means you either need a week at maintenance/diet break or you need to lower calories a bit and/or add some moderate cardio in.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
It's pointless while I'm still a fatass. If I can lose another 50-70lbs, MAYBE it'll make a difference, but I've been stuck ~289-290 for like 3 weeks now. Fuking plateau's piss me off.
Take a week off of your diet (within reason), and it should help you. Think of it as 2 steps forward, one step back. Seen a few studies where it can speed up weight loss doing scheduled extended breaks.

You could always go for the chubby chasers like silencespeaks, but yeah, weight loss always helps with aesthetics for the non HTC.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Take a week off of your diet (within reason), and it should help you. Think of it as 2 steps forward, one step back. Seen a few studies where it can speed up weight loss doing scheduled extended breaks.
I already tried this a couple weeks ago. ;/ That's what I always do when I plateau (for like 2-3 weeks without losing any weight). This is just what always happens when I diet. I eventually hit some point where I can't lose anymore weight regardless of diet or exercise.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I already tried this a couple weeks ago. ;/ That's what I always do when I plateau (for like 2-3 weeks without losing any weight). This is just what always happens when I diet. I eventually hit some point where I can't lose anymore weight regardless of diet or exercise.
Chit, wish I could help, but I only have experience with losing 20-30 lbs. Just don't revert though. I'm sure you'll beat this fat chit eventually. I'm sure a good bit is loose skin too.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I already tried this a couple weeks ago. ;/ That's what I always do when I plateau (for like 2-3 weeks without losing any weight). This is just what always happens when I diet. I eventually hit some point where I can't lose anymore weight regardless of diet or exercise.
Back in 2012 I went from 220 to 175 in 3 months after discovering this forum. Go to the fatloss section and check out the stickies. You not losing weight means your not in a caloric deficit if you've done the diet break etc. How consistent/accurate are you with counting and are you weighing your food? Take tape measurements. Scale stays the same sometimes and then you get a big whoosh.
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Originally Posted By PuppyLife⏩
Back in 2012 I went from 220 to 175 in 3 months after discovering this forum. Go to the fatloss section and check out the stickies. You not losing weight means your not in a caloric deficit if you've done the diet break etc. How consistent/accurate are you with counting and are you weighing your food? Take tape measurements. Scale stays the same sometimes and then you get a big whoosh.
I've already lost 73. I'm not fukcing around with it, this is just the same thing that always happens.. and then everyone claims I must be some kind of God who defies the laws of thermodynamics.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
It's all a pain in the ass unless she shows obvious interest. Girls can at least have their friend talk to you or something to help out. The average dude doesn't want to holler at random girls or try to sway through beta orbiters in public just to talk to some random sloot.
I don't know about "average", but that is exactly what dudes who get pussy do.
Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm not looking for 10/10's. It's not like you choose who Tinder presents you to match with, you simply swipe the options you are given. You can't force women to match with you, and I've gone upwards of 12 months with no match before. I deleted all forms of online dating ~2 years ago. Utter waste of time.
I had a friend who wasn't getting any matches. I looked at his Tinder account and he looked like a fking serial killer. He argued with me that I didn't know what I was talking about, then relented and followed my instructions. He is living with a good girl he met on there after that (his matches shot up in quality and quantity), and she makes over 100k a year. Dead fking srs. It wasn't him who was bad, it was just his presentation. If the bald thing is causing an issue, get a ****ing toupee. If you are failing at anything CHANGE your approach. That is what you guys refuse to accept.
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Originally Posted By SuperGuitarDude⏩
Do you realize what your argument really is here? That women only respond to the best looking male in terms of looks, status and position in life. Here's the big kicker, though. If we go back a few thousand years in the Near East, our ancestors lived this way, but in reverse. Men earned their spoils of war and pretty much did as they willed with women. Sure that's not always the case and I'm not saying it was the right thing to do but this is how many lived. The things men go through with women in this day and age is what women once went through. You are arguing from a position of a man, who you feel are under oppression from women or more accurately the society in which we live.
My argument is that modern women are selecting men based off things which areuncontrollable and derived from genetics: face, height and dick followed closely by hair and frame. It's a safe bet that <25% of the western male population fits this genetic lottery. A 5/10 woman can easily get lip filler, boob job and an ass job combined with makeup which can take her to an 8/10 (ig model for example). Can a 5/10 male get a height job, dick job and a frame job? Nope he's ****ed.

Your parents for example had absolutely no comparisons when meeting each other. No porn, no instagram, no reality shows or thousands of good looking people they hadn't met embedded in their memory. Alas, they married the best looking/acting person theysawIRL which goes back to my previous post:
Originally Posted By BlackPill⏩
Imagine a time when social media didn't exist, hell, not even internet.

You live in a 200.000 people town.

You're a 5.5/10 male.

This means you're better looking than many, many males.
Nowadays however, it's the polar opposite. Both men and women can access extremely good looking people (via IG/tinder) in just a few clicks of a device which fits in their HAND, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Take just a second to comprehend that. They are aware such people EXIST and this in turn creates a deep craving within and essentially a mission. As I mentioned above however, it's very easy for an average girl to turn herself into a top tier girl via surgery and makeup.The average man cannot do this,hence the predicament we are in now.

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Originally Posted By BlackPill⏩
Sorry to say, its because you are bald. That is truly a death sentence on tinder. I'd look into hair transplant options if you have enough donor hair (back of head), it can really do miracles these days given you select the right clinic.
Being bald is not an obstacle at all. Shave the head, smile, whatever. Never had any problems when I was going bald, and when I rocked a bald spot and giant ass beard women in their 20s loved it.

I'm firmly convinced it is people having atrocious personalities. If you are boring and creepy, it's not gonna go well unless you have the crackhead rockstar look.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
I had a friend who wasn't getting any matches. I looked at his Tinder account and he looked like a fking serial killer. He argued with me that I didn't know what I was talking about, then relented and followed my instructions. He is living with a good girl he met on there after that (his matches shot up in quality and quantity), and she makes over 100k a year. Dead fking srs. It wasn't him who was bad, it was just his presentation. If the bald thing is causing an issue, get a ****ing toupee. If you are failing at anything CHANGE your approach. That is what you guys refuse to accept.
Tell me the secret to better pics. One night stands not hard to get on tinder but a good looking woman somewhat responsible seems impossible. Then again I know two people that ended up marrying each other off of tinder
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I can get a date or two a week (usually with fat or meh looking girls) but look at my instagram. they all ghost me after the first date.
an unexpected problem.
and even if I get to fuk them.. not home free yet.. they still leave.
thats how..and im pretty ripped and this happens.
28 and never had a girlfriend.
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It's easier to get laid than ever before in many ways, but you're not putting into account that young men are more awkward and more pussified than ever before as well.

I remember meeting a cute 21 year-old Latina on Tinder a few years back. During that the date, she remarked how happy she was that I wasn't some awkward weirdo and instead a normal guy. I bertstared for a couple seconds because that was one of the lamest compliments I've ever heard, but it made me realize something. A lot of young guys must be such a mess these days that all it takes for a short 30+ year-old man to bang a cute girl 10+ years younger than him is to not be socially retarded. The bar has been lowered. Not that I'm complaining. For anyone who doesn't look like chit and has a bit of charm, it's very easy to capitalize these days.
Originally Posted By yieldtonothing⏩
if you were 15 and a awkward fuk back in the 70s or 80s, youd just keep shooting your shot. asking your bros for advice, to be wingman etc


now theres an internet and you google all this chit and you find a forum full of subhumans like wincel who encourage you to hate women and live an FA lifestyle. this lifestyle is not only perpetuated, but glorified by some as a coping mechanism. and the impressionable youths are the ones who will suffer.

it actually seems much easier to be incel these days.
Agreed, especially with the bolded. I'd say it was true even when I was young, though things were at the cusp of changing. Everyone in my group of friends got laid in high school except me, and they were all average or even somewhat ugly guys. I wasn't ugly, but I was an awkward pussy. I got chit from my friends, and over time I got over my awkward pussiness the hard way. I never resorted to wallowing in self-pity online. For one, incel/FA communities didn't exist back then, and if they did, they were deep underground. Secondly, even if I wasn't getting laid I still had my pride as a man. Back then, someone who whined about things like facial aesthetics and how women don't give him attention would rightfully be shamed as a *******.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I think incels are incels because of parental neglect or abuse. I don't think people with average loving parents become incels unless they are really, really ,really ugly or under 5'4
I think this is true to a large part. They'll all spend countless hours droning on about the minute details of facial aesthetics, height, and hypergamy, but it's painfully obvious that the vast majority of them have emotional and mental problems that go beyond not just getting laid. Some of them are probably ugly as fuk, but it's likely a small proportion.

Just take a look at wincel, misc's most prominent incel. He blamed just about everything under the sun for his condition with long posts stretching 1000+ words... and then it turns out he was diddled by his mom. Shocking. Of course someone like that is going to have issues with women.
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They don't try. Incels I know play video games all day and have 0 contact with women.
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Originally Posted By PKneyr⏩
They don't try. Incels I know play video games all day and have 0 contact with women.
Define "trying". What point is there in having contact with women if you're 100% guaranteed to be rejected and made fun of?
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Define "trying". What point is there in having contact with women if you're 100% guaranteed to be rejected and made fun of?
They legit don't talk to women. None of them is hideous, I doubt they'd have issues getting a girl. They work for 8 hours(tradies), then play video games for the rest of the day.
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