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post 1576749891 03-27-2019, 09:41 AM
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When does marriage actually make sense?

When you live together for X amount of years?
When you accidentally get her pregnant?

Doesn't really make sense to me brahs.
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When it is economically beneficial
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Originally Posted By gibbypoo⏩
When it is economically beneficial
what variable determines when it is economically beneficial?
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if u two decide to have kids

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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
When you live together for X amount of years?
When you accidentally get her pregnant?

Doesn't really make sense to me brahs.
When you want to have kids.
Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
what variable determines when it is economically beneficial?
Ummm... money?
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As a married man, I would say: Only in the situation in which you are ready and able to start a family. If that's not on the table, you're not ready or unable, then there is absolutely no reason to marry anyone. In my case, were my marriage to end somehow, I would never remarry under any circumstances as I do not want more children.

However, if you bring life into this world, at that moment you have obligations to do your best to ensure they are raised responsibly. Children need a family, a mother and a father, and for that marriage is your only real option.
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post 1576750601 03-27-2019, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
what variable determines that it is economically beneficial?
that dowry bro

but srs, unlike the other incels in here, the state rewards a married household. Getting loans is easier, tax advantages, etc.
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I hope to find my lifelong companion, someone I can share my hopes and dreams with, someone I can trust with anything. Someone to end my lonely nights. Someone who will be there when I get old, no when we get old. I will shower her with love and affection no matter how many dinks she took when she was younger.
post 1576750841 03-27-2019, 09:53 AM
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IF you truly love each other and want to be together forever then marriage makes the most sense for two people.
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post 1576750901 03-27-2019, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
When you want to have kids.

Ummm... money?
why do you need to be married to have kids?
why can't you make money together while not married?
Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
As a married man, I would say: Only in the situation in which you are ready and able to start a family. If that's not on the table, you're not ready or unable, then there is absolutely no reason to marry anyone. In my case, were my marriage to end somehow, I would never remarry under any circumstances as I do not want more children.

However, if you bring life into this world, at that moment you have obligations to do your best to ensure they are raised responsibly. Children need a family, a mother and a father, and for that marriage is your only real option.
why is marriage the only option if you have kids? to set an example?
Originally Posted By gibbypoo⏩
that dowry bro

but srs, unlike the other incels in here, the state rewards a married household. Getting loans is easier, tax advantages, etc.
i agree with this, there are a lot of tax advantages with a married household.
but a marriage can also break up at any point and the woman can take 50% of your net worth.
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How did you know when you were ready to get married?

Conversely

How did you know when it was time to break up and not get married, or, get divorced?
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Originally Posted By TheSteve39⏩
How did you know when it was time to break up and not get married, or, get divorced?
when i realized the girl i was with was using marriage to get what she wanted - comfort and a life of settling down
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post 1576751531 03-27-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
why do you need to be married to have kids?
why can't you make money together while not married?

why is marriage the only option if you have kids? to set an example?
Well if you derive the worth of a marriage from the notion that it is a holy sacrament, then it is the only avenue to having children.

Related to that, studies have shown that in almost every metric you could think of, it is better for the child to have married parents rather than cohabiting parents.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/c...hree-big-ways/

TL;DR
- married parents earn more
- married parents intentionally have children more, rather than by accident
- married parents stay together more
- married parents are more educated

Of course, being married isn't necessarily the cause of some of these factors, but actually a byproduct of a certain lifestyle and set of principles for which these factors are also a byproduct.


But the point remains that all of these things lead to a better future for the child.
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
when i realized the girl i was with was using marriage to get what she wanted - comfort and a life of settling down
Were you unhappy on your side of the relationship or left feeling unfulfilled?
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
Well if you derive the worth of a marriage from the notion that it is a holy sacrament, then it is the only avenue to having children.

Related to that, studies have shown that in almost every metric you could think of, it is better for the child to have married parents rather than cohabiting parents.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/c...hree-big-ways/

TL;DR
- married parents earn more
- married parents intentionally have children more, rather than by accident
- married parents stay together more
- married parents are more educated

Of course, being married isn't necessarily the cause of some of these factors, but actually a byproduct of a certain lifestyle and set of principles for which these factors are also a byproduct.


But the point remains that all of these things lead to a better future for the child.
Ok I do agree with most of this. It is also a numbers game and we have to have kids for the survival of our race.

My question still stands though -WHENdoes this make sense? I'm not here to talk about Single vs. Married incomes or how children perceive married parents vs cohabiting parents.

Originally Posted By TheSteve39⏩
Were you unhappy on your side of the relationship or left feeling unfulfilled?
she was holding me back - which is why she is now my ex and I have a better one who replaced her.
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when you find urself searching to cuckhold p0rn ... u know its time
lold this op. So its time for you
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marriage is a scam
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When you're both too old to sloot around anymore. So what...like 65 years old or something.
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Well you would have to be able to talk to females, so of course it doesnt make sense.

Might help if you turn gay, might have more success that way.
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Originally Posted By gibbypoo⏩
that dowry bro

but srs, unlike the other incels in here, the state rewards a married household. Getting loans is easier, tax advantages, etc.
this. every married man knows that getting married saves you a bundle of money.

gibby you are actually consistently retarded, from both your run of the mill "everyone is an incel but me"s to your up your own ass "read a book once in a while"s
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
I hope to find my lifelong companion, someone I can share my hopes and dreams with, someone I can trust with anything. Someone to end my lonely nights. Someone who will be there when I get old, no when we get old. I will shower her with love and affection no matter how many dinks she took when she was younger.
I'm happily married, but Christ, you probably should just get a dog, man. Women can be great, don't get me wrong, but life isn't a Hallmark card, either.
Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
why do you need to be married to have kids?
why can't you make money together while not married?

why is marriage the only option if you have kids? to set an example?

i agree with this, there are a lot of tax advantages with a married household.
but a marriage can also break up at any point and the woman can take 50% of your net worth.
Did I say that? I meant to say marriage ONLY if you are having children, meaning without them then you don't. With them, you probably do - but not always.

Meaning: You can raise children in alternative households and, who knows, maybe they'll turn out great -- but statistically they're less likely to (when it comes to literacy, success in life, drug use or lack thereof, criminal behavior, etc). The way I approach it, you take no chances and you commit yourself fully to your children. You give them every opportunity you can. If that means they have a slightly better chance of growing up better being in a household with a father and a mother -- you do it.

Children didn't ask to be born. They are your responsibility and your legacy.

That said, in some situations maybe you don't get married -- I didn't say it was absolutely necessary. If you knock up a stripper by accident, in this situation you just do your best but I wouldn't necessarily recommend marriage.

What I did say is that the ONLY reason I saw to get married would be for a family/children, meaning if there are no children to talk about - in this case there is absolutely zero reason to marry anyone.

So, marriage ONLY if children, but if there are children marriage isn't absolutely required.
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
When you live together for X amount of years?
When you accidentally get her pregnant?

Doesn't really make sense to me brahs.
It's good for benefits like healthcare if the one person doesn't have a good job.

It's also good psychologically if you both really view each other as a team. It's like athletes on a football teams. I imagine that you could have no football teams and guys could just get together, form quick teams, and they and fans would still enjoy it all. BUT, being on a team "We are The EAGLES!" makes everyone feel better about playing.

A nice marriage is like being on an official team.

Being in a bad marriage is like being on a football team where the other players don't want to play or win. I've heard that's a real thing too.

My point is that marriage is largely psychological. It's either a way to trap a person then give up or a way to feel part of something special. The economic benefits aren't that great and you can do without them. If you really love someone you don't need to get married because you already are due to the love.

The great band Rammstein made the song Du Hast about marriage.

In it, he's saying "Du Hast/You have me already" and then goes on to question why the woman would try to force him into marriage. What is she trying to pull making him take vows and sign a contract when he already loves her and she has him. He's then refusing to get married because he thinks she doesn't love him since she's forcing him to do these things.
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Originally Posted By ssilv⏩
My question still stands though -WHENdoes this make sense
That's like asking someone when it's time to start lifting. Its extremely circumstance oriented. Some people's religious, economic, reproduction, and conceptual values dictate this timeline, if at all. Grab a few sociology books OP. There's no finite -yes- or -no- answer for any couple, except those who are adamantly opposed to marriage for a variety of reasons.
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[QUOTE=Silencespeaks post_id=1576754791]Main reason is to start a family.

That said I got married for love which was a good reason at the time and I’m glad I did. [b]But not sure if I would do that a second time.[\b][/QUOTE]so only to start a family then right?
what if you don't want to "settle down" but still want the tax and money benefits?


[QUOTE=JUSA post_id=1576754831]I'm happily married, but Christ, you probably should just get a dog, man. Women can be great, don't get me wrong, but life isn't a Hallmark card, either.


Did I say that? I meant to say marriage ONLY if you are having children, meaning without them then you don't. With them, you probably do - but not always.

Meaning: You can raise children in alternative households and, who knows, maybe they'll turn out great -- but statistically they're less likely to (when it comes to literacy, success in life, drug use or lack thereof, criminal behavior, etc). The way I approach it, you take no chances and you commit yourself fully to your children. You give them every opportunity you can. If that means they have a slightly better chance of growing up better being in a household with a father and a mother -- you do it.

Children didn't ask to be born. They are your responsibility and your legacy.

That said, in some situations maybe you don't get married -- I didn't say it was absolutely necessary. If you knock up a stripper by accident, in this situation you just do your best but I wouldn't necessarily recommend marriage.

What I did say is that the ONLY reason I saw to get married would be for a family/children, meaning if there are no children to talk about - in this case there is absolutely zero reason to marry anyone.

So, marriage ONLY if children, but if there are children marriage isn't absolutely required.[/QUOTE]That answers my question and makes sense.

Two people living together without children = marriage does not make sense
When children / the serious thought of children become a plan = marriage
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
I'm happily married, but Christ, you probably should just get a dog, man. Women can be great, don't get me wrong, but life isn't a Hallmark card, either.
You know, you're right. I've had dogs and I've had a wife. I have better memories of the dogs.

I change my vote. I'd prefer to die alone.
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I do wonder if being single makes you happy in the long run. If you look at guys like GMiscer, he says he's glad he escaped the "trap" of marriage, but he says he still has a lot of loneliness in his life. On the other hand, after reading the endless stories of marriages that become nightmares, the very prospect of marriage seems frightening.

I guess you're screwed either way.
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