Honestly I'm at the point where the acquisition of "things" isn't doing much for me anymore. The car for example.. I thought (as you mentioned) that acquiring that would give me some sense of accomplishment or pride, but it really hasn't. It's just another object in a collection of objects that I've exchanged money for.

They say that things can't fill the hole in your life/soul. I think they're right. My life is missing the core relationships that most people enjoy by the time they're like 1/2 my age. I've also heard that earning over a certain $$ amount doesn't really improve your life beyond a point.. I think that's true too. Granted I'm not some Misc "CEO 10k/day", but I make more by myself than the median household, so if I want something I can usually get it. There's a law of diminishing returns on that though.. Like ok, now I have 2 video cards instead of one.. Or I get a bigger TV.. or nicer furniture, etc.. But once those basic needs are met, you're really just incrementally improving the quality of those items, but not necessarily the quality of your life. You basically need 4 walls, a roof over your head, a bed, and maybe a chair or two, and 3 square meals a day to get by. All else are frills.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the new car.. I enjoy the i9 9900k + 2x 2080 Ti SLI 4k gaming experience.. but I have no one to share these things with. I don't really even have friends to speak of. I still go see one of my old neighbors once in a while, but he's in his 60's and has health issues that keep him from being very active (hip and knee issues from being a biker for a long time), so we mostly just sit around and shoot the breeze. I never do anything really with anyone. I just stay home.. retool my PC, or play games. I watch movies.. I play with my cat. It all feels very trite and meaningless.. because it is. I'm sure that sounds incredibly nihilistic, but realistically if I'm not fulfilling a biological imperative, and I'm not out there saving lives or doing something that actually matters, then what's the point in any of this?

I'm certain I'm not the only one having these thoughts. Most people (especially those approaching middle-age) go through something akin to a mid-life crisis. My problem is that I've been in that state for my entire life.

You mentioned that I have skills. That I've spent time in the military. True, but I always feel like I largely failed in those arenas. There's always someone better.. someone smarter.. more driven. Maybe I shouldn't measure myself by the yardstick of those external examples, but I do. I'm a coward, and a quitter. For example, when I was a kid I wanted to be an artist. I didn't even get interested in tech until I was like 19. I was into sketch art mostly, and I also played ~13 instruments so I really enjoyed music. I like to sing too.. I'm even reasonably decent at it.
Getting back to the art.. So, I have an uncle and a cousin who are both professional artists for a living. They're both amazing, natural talents. I would look at their work as a kid (my cousin is quite a bit older than me, and my uncle is around the same age as my Dad) and couldn't see myself ever being capable of even approaching that level of ability... It was totally demoralizing, and when I found an interest in tech, I ostensibly threw art to the wayside. I doodle once in a while, but I've barely drawn anything in like 20 years.
Music is kind of the same story, except instead of having a cousin or an uncle who was into it, I went to "Band Camp" (lol, queue the American Pie jokes) a couple times on scholarship. The kids there were so amazingly good.. so much better than me.. I haven't played anything since I was 18 (21 years ago).

I'm a quitter. I face adversity and fold.

With women it's worse, because I don't even face that adversity, I just completely ignore them. Other than professional settings where avoidance is impossible (like work, or at stores/restaurants), I try my best not to even look at women. If I do happen to glance at a woman, I immediately remind myself that she's 1000x out of my league, and go about my business. This is why I laugh/get mad when people say Incels feel "entitled" to sex with women. Bull****. I don't feel good enough to be with anyone.. in what way is that a form of entitlement? Sure, some guys (like the stereotypical Elliot Rogers) seemed to think he was amazingly hot ****, and then couldn't understand why women weren't just jumping on his dick, but I think he's more of an exception, not the rule. Maybe I'm wrong. I've never actually been to any of these so-called "incel forums" (although many would probably argue that the Misc has largely become one in and of itself), so maybe that actually is what these guys think. I think it more likely that, like me, they're simply men with little or no self-esteem, and they lack the intestinal fortitude to do anything about it.

I think that was a good and honest assessment. I think most people, including myself, can relate to not fulfilling their potential, feeling like a failure, or quitting at some point.

As for the last part, I think it's a generational difference. From what I've observed, the modern incel is some weird combination of millennial entitlement, lack of masculinity, and a complete lack of social skills. Despite being an "incel" in the past myself, I really can't relate to or approve of what a lot of these young guys are doing/saying. You may have been the norm 10-20 years ago, but these days the Supreme Gentlemen type seem dangerously more common.

I know a guy[neighbour of one of my closest friends], who looks exactly like this and keeps scoring 7-8/10s all the time.
Dude isn't rich either. He used to be a NEET for years now he is a janitor.
He is kinda social, but mostly stays home, plays League of Legends and smokes pot. (srs)

Honestly I'm at the point where the acquisition of "things" isn't doing much for me anymore. The car for example.. I thought (as you mentioned) that acquiring that would give me some sense of accomplishment or pride, but it really hasn't. It's just another object in a collection of objects that I've exchanged money for.

They say that things can't fill the hole in your life/soul. I think they're right.

lmao this was rich. was totally unaware pakistani was a slur or is it just "paki"??

regardless lulz were had and a little culture lesson too. never change misc.

Even they have their limits

Brah don't you know that bald, manlet, DYEL, alien skulled, weak jawed, pot smoking, vidya playing janitors are the peak of male sexuality?

Fresh wet poon everywhere they go. When will it be my turn to NEETmaxxx?

Without the beard it's like the lower half of his face is missing.

Honestly I'm at the point where the acquisition of "things" isn't doing much for me anymore. The car for example.. I thought (as you mentioned) that acquiring that would give me some sense of accomplishment or pride, but it really hasn't. It's just another object in a collection of objects that I've exchanged money for.

They say that things can't fill the hole in your life/soul. I think they're right. My life is missing the core relationships that most people enjoy by the time they're like 1/2 my age. I've also heard that earning over a certain $$ amount doesn't really improve your life beyond a point.. I think that's true too. Granted I'm not some Misc "CEO 10k/day", but I make more by myself than the median household, so if I want something I can usually get it. There's a law of diminishing returns on that though.. Like ok, now I have 2 video cards instead of one.. Or I get a bigger TV.. or nicer furniture, etc.. But once those basic needs are met, you're really just incrementally improving the quality of those items, but not necessarily the quality of your life. You basically need 4 walls, a roof over your head, a bed, and maybe a chair or two, and 3 square meals a day to get by. All else are frills.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the new car.. I enjoy the i9 9900k + 2x 2080 Ti SLI 4k gaming experience.. but I have no one to share these things with. I don't really even have friends to speak of. I still go see one of my old neighbors once in a while, but he's in his 60's and has health issues that keep him from being very active (hip and knee issues from being a biker for a long time), so we mostly just sit around and shoot the breeze. I never do anything really with anyone. I just stay home.. retool my PC, or play games. I watch movies.. I play with my cat. It all feels very trite and meaningless.. because it is. I'm sure that sounds incredibly nihilistic, but realistically if I'm not fulfilling a biological imperative, and I'm not out there saving lives or doing something that actually matters, then what's the point in any of this?

I'm certain I'm not the only one having these thoughts. Most people (especially those approaching middle-age) go through something akin to a mid-life crisis. My problem is that I've been in that state for my entire life.

You mentioned that I have skills. That I've spent time in the military. True, but I always feel like I largely failed in those arenas. There's always someone better.. someone smarter.. more driven. Maybe I shouldn't measure myself by the yardstick of those external examples, but I do. I'm a coward, and a quitter. For example, when I was a kid I wanted to be an artist. I didn't even get interested in tech until I was like 19. I was into sketch art mostly, and I also played ~13 instruments so I really enjoyed music. I like to sing too.. I'm even reasonably decent at it.
Getting back to the art.. So, I have an uncle and a cousin who are both professional artists for a living. They're both amazing, natural talents. I would look at their work as a kid (my cousin is quite a bit older than me, and my uncle is around the same age as my Dad) and couldn't see myself ever being capable of even approaching that level of ability... It was totally demoralizing, and when I found an interest in tech, I ostensibly threw art to the wayside. I doodle once in a while, but I've barely drawn anything in like 20 years.
Music is kind of the same story, except instead of having a cousin or an uncle who was into it, I went to "Band Camp" (lol, queue the American Pie jokes) a couple times on scholarship. The kids there were so amazingly good.. so much better than me.. I haven't played anything since I was 18 (21 years ago).

I'm a quitter. I face adversity and fold.

With women it's worse, because I don't even face that adversity, I just completely ignore them. Other than professional settings where avoidance is impossible (like work, or at stores/restaurants), I try my best not to even look at women. If I do happen to glance at a woman, I immediately remind myself that she's 1000x out of my league, and go about my business. This is why I laugh/get mad when people say Incels feel "entitled" to sex with women. Bull****. I don't feel good enough to be with anyone.. in what way is that a form of entitlement? Sure, some guys (like the stereotypical Elliot Rogers) seemed to think he was amazingly hot ****, and then couldn't understand why women weren't just jumping on his dick, but I think he's more of an exception, not the rule. Maybe I'm wrong. I've never actually been to any of these so-called "incel forums" (although many would probably argue that the Misc has largely become one in and of itself), so maybe that actually is what these guys think. I think it more likely that, like me, they're simply men with little or no self-esteem, and they lack the intestinal fortitude to do anything about it.

1. You need professional counseling. Somebody who can help you.
2. Go join a tabletop gaming club or something. Those guys might be nerds and dorks, but they won't judge you. That'll give you some friendships in the short term.
3. There really isn't any valid reason you can't get women, other than you're sabotaging yourself.

With women it's worse, because I don't even face that adversity, I just completely ignore them. Other than professional settings where avoidance is impossible (like work, or at stores/restaurants), I try my best not to even look at women. If I do happen to glance at a woman, I immediately remind myself that she's 1000x out of my league, and go about my business. This is why I laugh/get mad when people say Incels feel "entitled" to sex with women. Bull****. I don't feel good enough to be with anyone.. in what way is that a form of entitlement? Sure, some guys (like the stereotypical Elliot Rogers) seemed to think he was amazingly hot ****, and then couldn't understand why women weren't just jumping on his dick, but I think he's more of an exception, not the rule. Maybe I'm wrong. I've never actually been to any of these so-called "incel forums" (although many would probably argue that the Misc has largely become one in and of itself), so maybe that actually is what these guys think. I think it more likely that, like me, they're simply men with little or no self-esteem, and they lack the intestinal fortitude to do anything about it.

You sum it up brother.

As for acquiring stuff, I think you should try living a minimalist life style and reconnecting with nature. Just get back from 5 days trekking alone in the mountain, I feel we are more at peace doing this than playing game and stuff.

Ofc, I do play games too or read cause we can't live in the moutain all the time, at least I can't for the moment, but I plan to retire there. It is easier to live like a true outcast/hermit so alone in the middle of nowhere or surrounded by a minimal amount of people rather than living like an outcast in the middle of a city. Sure you have friends there but the more time pass, the more they found a family. Half of my friends have found a household and each year that pass each year I'm more and more the "loner" during dinner/afterwork. At some point it is kinda a bit depressing.

I don't know, when I'm outhere, I don't find that life sucks that much.

Wish you well bro and take care

Boxing didn't turn out well for him.


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Yeah, third kid could work it out easily. First one could work it out with some celltech, beard and fully shaved head or toupee. Middle guy is above average in China.

I do usually feel better after a week hunting with my dad every November. My parents live in a tiny town where cell service is sparse, and they don't have internet. We just hunt. It's like detoxing.

I lift ~4 days a week. I highly doubt I'll take another 80lbs off next year though. It's already slowed down to the point where I sit at the same weight for weeks at a time. Same **** happens every time I try to lose weight.

Inb4 I'm eating too much.. Inb4 I'm defying thermodynamics.

fkn lol at some comments in that sub



"It's over for neandercels"

I know a guy[neighbour of one of my closest friends], who looks exactly like this and keeps scoring 7-8/10s all the time.
Dude isn't rich either. He used to be a NEET for years now he is a janitor.
He is kinda social, but mostly stays home, plays League of Legends and smokes pot. (srs)

fkn lol at some comments in that sub



"It's over for neandercels"

I do usually feel better after a week hunting with my dad every November. My parents live in a tiny town where cell service is sparse, and they don't have internet. We just hunt. It's like detoxing.

There's no pride to be had in accomplishment if all you do is deny yourself accomplishing anything other than what exists inside the mental boundaries you set for yourself. Life has enough obstacles; stop being your own worst one.

Honestly I'm at the point where the acquisition of "things" isn't doing much for me anymore. The car for example.. I thought (as you mentioned) that acquiring that would give me some sense of accomplishment or pride, but it really hasn't. It's just another object in a collection of objects that I've exchanged money for.

They say that things can't fill the hole in your life/soul. I think they're right. My life is missing the core relationships that most people enjoy by the time they're like 1/2 my age. I've also heard that earning over a certain $$ amount doesn't really improve your life beyond a point.. I think that's true too. Granted I'm not some Misc "CEO 10k/day", but I make more by myself than the median household, so if I want something I can usually get it. There's a law of diminishing returns on that though.. Like ok, now I have 2 video cards instead of one.. Or I get a bigger TV.. or nicer furniture, etc.. But once those basic needs are met, you're really just incrementally improving the quality of those items, but not necessarily the quality of your life. You basically need 4 walls, a roof over your head, a bed, and maybe a chair or two, and 3 square meals a day to get by. All else are frills.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the new car.. I enjoy the i9 9900k + 2x 2080 Ti SLI 4k gaming experience.. but I have no one to share these things with. I don't really even have friends to speak of. I still go see one of my old neighbors once in a while, but he's in his 60's and has health issues that keep him from being very active (hip and knee issues from being a biker for a long time), so we mostly just sit around and shoot the breeze. I never do anything really with anyone. I just stay home.. retool my PC, or play games. I watch movies.. I play with my cat. It all feels very trite and meaningless.. because it is. I'm sure that sounds incredibly nihilistic, but realistically if I'm not fulfilling a biological imperative, and I'm not out there saving lives or doing something that actually matters, then what's the point in any of this?

I'm certain I'm not the only one having these thoughts. Most people (especially those approaching middle-age) go through something akin to a mid-life crisis. My problem is that I've been in that state for my entire life.

You mentioned that I have skills. That I've spent time in the military. True, but I always feel like I largely failed in those arenas. There's always someone better.. someone smarter.. more driven. Maybe I shouldn't measure myself by the yardstick of those external examples, but I do. I'm a coward, and a quitter. For example, when I was a kid I wanted to be an artist. I didn't even get interested in tech until I was like 19. I was into sketch art mostly, and I also played ~13 instruments so I really enjoyed music. I like to sing too.. I'm even reasonably decent at it.
Getting back to the art.. So, I have an uncle and a cousin who are both professional artists for a living. They're both amazing, natural talents. I would look at their work as a kid (my cousin is quite a bit older than me, and my uncle is around the same age as my Dad) and couldn't see myself ever being capable of even approaching that level of ability... It was totally demoralizing, and when I found an interest in tech, I ostensibly threw art to the wayside. I doodle once in a while, but I've barely drawn anything in like 20 years.
Music is kind of the same story, except instead of having a cousin or an uncle who was into it, I went to "Band Camp" (lol, queue the American Pie jokes) a couple times on scholarship. The kids there were so amazingly good.. so much better than me.. I haven't played anything since I was 18 (21 years ago).

I'm a quitter. I face adversity and fold.

With women it's worse, because I don't even face that adversity, I just completely ignore them. Other than professional settings where avoidance is impossible (like work, or at stores/restaurants), I try my best not to even look at women. If I do happen to glance at a woman, I immediately remind myself that she's 1000x out of my league, and go about my business. This is why I laugh/get mad when people say Incels feel "entitled" to sex with women. Bull****. I don't feel good enough to be with anyone.. in what way is that a form of entitlement? Sure, some guys (like the stereotypical Elliot Rogers) seemed to think he was amazingly hot ****, and then couldn't understand why women weren't just jumping on his dick, but I think he's more of an exception, not the rule. Maybe I'm wrong. I've never actually been to any of these so-called "incel forums" (although many would probably argue that the Misc has largely become one in and of itself), so maybe that actually is what these guys think. I think it more likely that, like me, they're simply men with little or no self-esteem, and they lack the intestinal fortitude to do anything about it.

Honestly I'm at the point where the acquisition of "things" isn't doing much for me anymore. The car for example.. I thought (as you mentioned) that acquiring that would give me some sense of accomplishment or pride, but it really hasn't. It's just another object in a collection of objects that I've exchanged money for.

They say that things can't fill the hole in your life/soul. I think they're right. My life is missing the core relationships that most people enjoy by the time they're like 1/2 my age. I've also heard that earning over a certain $$ amount doesn't really improve your life beyond a point.. I think that's true too. Granted I'm not some Misc "CEO 10k/day", but I make more by myself than the median household, so if I want something I can usually get it. There's a law of diminishing returns on that though.. Like ok, now I have 2 video cards instead of one.. Or I get a bigger TV.. or nicer furniture, etc.. But once those basic needs are met, you're really just incrementally improving the quality of those items, but not necessarily the quality of your life. You basically need 4 walls, a roof over your head, a bed, and maybe a chair or two, and 3 square meals a day to get by. All else are frills.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the new car.. I enjoy the i9 9900k + 2x 2080 Ti SLI 4k gaming experience.. but I have no one to share these things with. I don't really even have friends to speak of. I still go see one of my old neighbors once in a while, but he's in his 60's and has health issues that keep him from being very active (hip and knee issues from being a biker for a long time), so we mostly just sit around and shoot the breeze. I never do anything really with anyone. I just stay home.. retool my PC, or play games. I watch movies.. I play with my cat. It all feels very trite and meaningless.. because it is. I'm sure that sounds incredibly nihilistic, but realistically if I'm not fulfilling a biological imperative, and I'm not out there saving lives or doing something that actually matters, then what's the point in any of this?

I'm certain I'm not the only one having these thoughts. Most people (especially those approaching middle-age) go through something akin to a mid-life crisis. My problem is that I've been in that state for my entire life.

You mentioned that I have skills. That I've spent time in the military. True, but I always feel like I largely failed in those arenas. There's always someone better.. someone smarter.. more driven. Maybe I shouldn't measure myself by the yardstick of those external examples, but I do. I'm a coward, and a quitter. For example, when I was a kid I wanted to be an artist. I didn't even get interested in tech until I was like 19. I was into sketch art mostly, and I also played ~13 instruments so I really enjoyed music. I like to sing too.. I'm even reasonably decent at it.
Getting back to the art.. So, I have an uncle and a cousin who are both professional artists for a living. They're both amazing, natural talents. I would look at their work as a kid (my cousin is quite a bit older than me, and my uncle is around the same age as my Dad) and couldn't see myself ever being capable of even approaching that level of ability... It was totally demoralizing, and when I found an interest in tech, I ostensibly threw art to the wayside. I doodle once in a while, but I've barely drawn anything in like 20 years.
Music is kind of the same story, except instead of having a cousin or an uncle who was into it, I went to "Band Camp" (lol, queue the American Pie jokes) a couple times on scholarship. The kids there were so amazingly good.. so much better than me.. I haven't played anything since I was 18 (21 years ago).

I'm a quitter. I face adversity and fold.

With women it's worse, because I don't even face that adversity, I just completely ignore them. Other than professional settings where avoidance is impossible (like work, or at stores/restaurants), I try my best not to even look at women. If I do happen to glance at a woman, I immediately remind myself that she's 1000x out of my league, and go about my business. This is why I laugh/get mad when people say Incels feel "entitled" to sex with women. Bull****. I don't feel good enough to be with anyone.. in what way is that a form of entitlement? Sure, some guys (like the stereotypical Elliot Rogers) seemed to think he was amazingly hot ****, and then couldn't understand why women weren't just jumping on his dick, but I think he's more of an exception, not the rule. Maybe I'm wrong. I've never actually been to any of these so-called "incel forums" (although many would probably argue that the Misc has largely become one in and of itself), so maybe that actually is what these guys think. I think it more likely that, like me, they're simply men with little or no self-esteem, and they lack the intestinal fortitude to do anything about it.

fkn lol at some comments in that sub



"It's over for neandercels"

My fear always was not meeting the expectations of the other person, and letting my flaws (of which they are many) to get in the way of compatibility. The idea of me just being desirable in one's mind rather than in the flesh was comforting for me. You know, you build the person up in your mind and then they dig below the surface and it comes crashing down. I didn't want that t

Not gonna name any names but certain miscers are Literally SHAKING rn

Lol at how quickly Indian/white gf threads blow up. Some of you are sad, sad people

I’ve read this whole thread and haven’t seen anyone upset that the Indian dude is dating a white girl

Is this what projecting looks like?