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post 1577993391 04-13-2019, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Peacening
I think it's due to porn. 80/20 was probably more like 20/80 back in the day because dudes had to actually bone to get satisfaction but now with millions of hours of high def pronz at the click of a button dudes just recede into a sexless existence of porn, video games, and sedentary living.. truly pathetic.
so the 30% of men that havent been laid in the last year just arent trying. they're satisfied with porn and games?

Not reality. they want to get laid, BUT THEY CANT
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains
I already went over how real life and Tinder have different standards. On Tinder, the numbers are heavily skewed in the females' favor, and you're basically competing with a whole city. In real life, competition is fairly scarce, especially outside of the club or bar scene. And most females give priority to guys they meet in real life compared to some stranger on Tinder who may be catfishing or a serial killer, for obvious reasons.

I'm also not suggesting that all incels go out to bars and approach randoms. One the problems with incels is that they look at things in black and white terms, which is understandable considering that their own lives are at one end of an extreme. Even if it's a girl who's a friend of a friend that you're interested in, you're still going to have to make a move unless you want to become some beta orbiter.

As for the attractiveness thing, not every incel is ugly. For the ones who're significantly below average in looks, yeah, they're kind of fuked. We already went over that in another thread.
So I disagree with your first paragraph that things are so in different in real life. the women at the bar, are the same one's online being picky and setting up hook ups etc. I dont understand why you think all of a sudden their standards change. and even if it did, there's still so many thristy men in these places the odds are still really low for low tier men.

outside of bars and clubs, a lot of women dont want to be approached unless you are really attractive. they think it's creepy and dont want it anymore. When they are looking for something, its mostly bars, clubs, and online.

thats not to say you can no longer meet people organically. But that has to almost be dumb luck, because women no longer like being approached and asked out during their daily life when they arent looking for anything(unless very attractive).
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Why do we have to keep making this point?

Women biologically want genetically superior Men. Genetically superior Men aren't good at supporting themselves in the economy. With the rise of Female economic power and agency, they no longer have need for the beta provider males with worse genetics who would have prevented them from sinking into poverty and obscurity; they can support themselves, thus can fukk genetically superior males and have their kids whilst welfare and other provider sources prevent them from falling into decay.

Of course, it doesn't always work out well like that. Often they themselves die or their kids die in some type of struggle. But they'd still rather give birth to genetically superior Men's kids than spend one second with betabux Bobby if they can avoid it.
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post 1577994181 04-13-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
so the 30% of men that havent been laid in the last year just arent trying. they're satisfied with porn and games?

Not reality. they want to get laid, BUT THEY CANT
this may be true up to a point. but I genuinely think that that past a certain point of inceldom, guys brains just adapt to solely getting satisfaction through porn and high frequency internet stimulation versus real human partners. the psychology of the world is changing, out brains literally did not evolve to cope with the scale of porn
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
this is just not the case. There are so many people trying to meet up constantly. The entire point of tinder and other online options is to MEET IN PERSON. People arent afraid or avoiding that. Its just the mix of whos getting with who, and how often that's messing everything up.

You make it sound like people are out there trying to get laid but cant form sentences and talk. this is not at all whats happening.
I kindly disagree. Plenty of guys here complain about tinder flakes you can find 1000's of threads about it. Also you are 27 have you tried talking to a 18-22 year old girl...theres serious lack of social skills there. I have texted with girl before and thought she was amazing...went out w her and she was complete potato in real life conversations....you know the ones that doesnt give you 5 mins to think of something witty to say. She ended up asking me out again and i passed.

This video literally destroys your argument tbh



Perfect example how social friendly people have been go to gas station now and nobody says a single fukkin thing to anyone.
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Originally Posted By Supaduck0
Why do we have to keep making this point?

Women biologically want genetically superior Men. Genetically superior Men aren't good at supporting themselves in the economy. With the rise of Female economic power and agency, they no longer have need for the beta provider males with worse genetics who would have prevented them from sinking into poverty and obscurity; they can support themselves, thus can fukk genetically superior males and have their kids whilst welfare and other provider sources prevent them from falling into decay.

Of course, it doesn't always work out well like that. Often they themselves die or their kids die in some type of struggle. But they'd still rather give birth to genetically superior Men's kids than spend one second with betabux Bobby if they can avoid it.
we need to just have a sticky for this topic.
post 1577994461 04-13-2019, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
this may be true up to a point. but I genuinely think that that past a certain point of inceldom, guys brains just adapt to solely getting satisfaction through porn and high frequency internet stimulation versus real human partners. the psychology of the world is changing, out brains literally did not evolve to cope with the scale of porn
I cant disprove this, but as an incel myself who always know other guys getting laid, hasnt been true in my experience
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Originally Posted By Weezy32
I kindly disagree. Plenty of guys here complain about tinder flakes you can find 1000's of threads about it. Also you are 27 have you tried talking to a 18-22 year old girl...theres serious lack of social skills there. I have texted with girl before and thought she was amazing...went out w her and she was complete potato in real life conversations....you know the ones that doesnt give you 5 mins to think of something witty to say. She ended up asking me out again and i passed.

This video literally destroys your argument tbh



Perfect example how social friendly people have been go to gas station now and nobody says a single fukkin thing to anyone.
here's the thing, if a man is trying to get laid it doesnt matter how socially stupid a woman is. I'm not talking about dating. or marriage, or relationship. just getting laid.

Women being socially awkward and vain doesnt mean they wont fuk you. and guys that cant get laid will surely endure a dull date to get their dink wet. so I still dont believe thats the issue.

and yes theres tons of tinder flakes because woman have so many fuking options she doesnt know which to pick.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Of course they are most people under age 30 are awkward and anti social and just look at their phones and play video games all day. Nobody knows how to interact face to face anymore. The matrix is happening right now.
It just nerds on the internet. ur using a skewed sample of the 1% who are losers ie miscers
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Originally Posted By nepatriots2019
It just nerds on the internet. ur using a skewed sample of the 1% who are losers ie miscers
yea there's no waay 30% of all men in america are just too into technology.

that makes it sound like we'd all be getting laid, the women are waiting, if only we'd stop playing playstation. its the opposite. the reason we're gaming is we cant get a date
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
we need to just have a sticky for this topic.
they'll just keep catching feelings and taking it some type of way.

people find it hard to accept this ****. maybe it takes a number of years and a sense of disconnection from the emo neediness for a GF the disney movies taught them.
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Originally Posted By Weezy32
I kindly disagree. Plenty of guys here complain about tinder flakes you can find 1000's of threads about it. Also you are 27 have you tried talking to a 18-22 year old girl...theres serious lack of social skills there. I have texted with girl before and thought she was amazing...went out w her and she was complete potato in real life conversations....you know the ones that doesnt give you 5 mins to think of something witty to say. She ended up asking me out again and i passed.

This video literally destroys your argument tbh



Perfect example how social friendly people have been go to gas station now and nobody says a single fukkin thing to anyone.
Well, id just like to say im speaking from a point of talking to tons of women

Maybe getting older it became easier but i certainly feel theres a whole lot of sex "in the air" based on society, moreso than in the past.

The other day i ran into a girl, thats really a nice girl. But she was still really flirty and sexual. I would try to say shes chaste, but i dont think so

Ive talked to so many women that you would think are shy and meek but are secretly wanting to get fuked

Again, maybe im just way better at bringing out womens sexuality, but i really dont think so. This sample size is pretty vast

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Originally Posted By nepatriots2019
It just nerds on the internet. ur using a skewed sample of the 1% who are losers ie miscers
Dude i work with thousands of people and most of them that are under 30 are like drones on their phones not talking to anyone. The people that smoke are better socially but that's because they are fuked up on nicotine and chit which raises their dopamine levels. The women under 27 or so are legit potato and anti social. This has been the trend since 2014-2015.

The reserved and passive nature of younger people these days is interesting. We have some older dudes come to our area and bullchit and they literally destroy any of the younger people i work with in social skills. It's embarrassing.
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Originally Posted By Supaduck0
they'll just keep catching feelings and taking it some type of way.

people find it hard to accept this ****. maybe it takes a number of years and a sense of disconnection from the emo neediness for a GF the disney movies taught them.
I mean its not disney, its thousands and thousands of years of biological and psychological development that makes men want to get laid.

remember this isnt just about a dating or relationships. Merely getting laid is out of reach for a large portion of men now
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Dude i work with thousands of people and most of them that are under 30 are like drones on their phones not talking to anyone. The people that smoke are better socially but that's because they are fuked up on nicotine and chit which raises their dopamine levels. The women under 27 or so are legit potato and anti social. This has been the trend since 2014-2015.

The reserved and passive nature of younger people these days is interesting. We have some older dudes come to our area and bullchit and they literally destroy any of the younger people i work with in social skills. It's embarrassing.
All I can say is your experience is no where near anything I've seen at any point in the last several years. I could be in some kind of bubble, but I dont think so.
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Originally Posted By Weezy32
You are talking about a bar u fukkin idiot...guys there are drunk so they lose all inhibition and approach anything with a vagina. I have been clubbing so many times and have been there my self.


Now compare that to when i am at a park or even when i used to go to college....people just dont talk to stargners. Most people in class would not even talk to each other before/after class they would sit next to a person awkwardly staring at their phone or pretneding to read. There was no guys hitting on any girls that i saw....i know because i was the only one that would start conversations with everyone and would litearlly know everyone by name after few classes. I remember my first semester in college i was hyped that i was gonna make so many friends and then i didnt make any because nobody would talk to me. So next semester and thereafter i decided i was going to start conversations with everyone and from then on i litearlly had study groups for every class. That was like 8-9 years ago too i can only imagine how anti social it is now.
so that's not totally out of line with what I've said ITT. As I said, Women dont want to be approached anymore by strangers outside of the bar/club scene and online. They dont want it. So thats why its not happening

If women were open to that and it was working, tons of men would be doing it. Women drive these changes. And in 2019, women do not want to be harrassed in public when she's just on a stroll in the park. Unless you're chad pitt.

In terms of the general lack of socializing, yes in random places I agree. People no longer go to the coffee shop or make friends at the book store. but its not because they lack the social skills, like EOD claims. Its because they just dont want to
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
I mean its not disney, its thousands and thousands of years of biological and psychological development that makes men want to get laid.

remember this isnt just about a dating or relationships. Merely getting laid is out of reach for a large portion of men now
Oh yeah I'm not denying that it's not going to be an easy disconnect. I actually predict it'll end in violence and disorder because it's the most primeval recruiting ground for some type of violent movement - lonely guys who feel inferior and cast out of humanity. Jeez, of *course* it's going to be dangerous.

I don't support terrorism, militant survivalism or agree with random massacres though. I do support the idea of society at large needing to accept that this current model isn't cohesive and something needs to be changed or fixed.
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Originally Posted By Supaduck0
Oh yeah I'm not denying that it's not going to be an easy disconnect. I actually predict it'll end in violence and disorder because it's the most primeval recruiting ground for some type of violent movement - lonely guys who feel inferior and cast out of humanity. Jeez, of *course* it's going to be dangerous.

I don't support terrorism, militant survivalism or agree with random massacres though. I do support the idea of society at large needing to accept that this current model isn't cohesive and something needs to be changed or fixed.
well it starts with at least understanding the problem and its causes in reality. telling men who have been excluded from sex and relationships because of societal change that they're all awkward losers and something is wrong with them, is not only dangerous its simply inaccurate.

A ton of males not getting laid is the natural way of things. If we want a stable society though its probably not good to allow that to play out
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While walking around do you all not feel women are looking for attention?

Chit. I see so many eyeballs and "looks" whether i received them or someone else did. Just out and about. Women looking for gratification or just some form of sex

I put out those vibes for sure. I check them out (usually is never bad even if they dont like you), etc.

I really feel going out anywhere women (and men..but actually less so) are scanning for that type of activity

Generally speaking someone checking them out will make them feel good. Obviously there are some caveats to that, but generally

If i went to the gym, i think id find more men scared or afrsid to approach for whatever reason than women disinclined to any type of interaction
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
While walking around do you all not feel women are looking for attention?

Chit. I see so many eyeballs and "looks" whether i received them or someone else did. Just out and about. Women looking for gratification or just some form of sex

I put out those vibes for sure. I check them out (usually is never bad even if they dont like you), etc.

I really feel going out anywhere women (and men..but actually less so) are scanning for that type of activity

Generally speaking someone checking them out will make them feel good. Obviously there are some caveats to that, but generally
ok chad, sure thats how it works for you
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Originally Posted By Supaduck0
Oh yeah I'm not denying that it's not going to be an easy disconnect. I actually predict it'll end in violence and disorder because it's the most primeval recruiting ground for some type of violent movement - lonely guys who feel inferior and cast out of humanity. Jeez, of *course* it's going to be dangerous.

I don't support terrorism, militant survivalism or agree with random massacres though. I do support the idea of society at large needing to accept that this current model isn't cohesive and something needs to be changed or fixed.
You cant actually think theres going to be some sort of terrorist group formed by incels right lol Incels are way too pussy to do something like that. They are crazy enough but dont have the balls.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
so the 30% of men that havent been laid in the last year just arent trying. they're satisfied with porn and games?

Not reality. they want to get laid, BUT THEY CANT
Think with your brain boyo. If all you do is play Vidya and watch porn are you going to have the social skills to get laid? Are you going to be going out to places where men and women congregate regularly? Are you going to maintain social groups that include women and therefore there is the potential to meet them? Probably not. It's a lifestyle issue.
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Originally Posted By Peacening
Think with your brain boyo. If all you do is play Vidya and watch porn are you going to have the social skills to get laid? Are you going to be going out to places where men and women congregate regularly? Are you going to maintain social groups that include women and therefore there is the potential to meet them? Probably not. It's a lifestyle issue.
Who was the possibility that men who get rejected constantly turn to porn and games instead?

The causation goes both ways
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Originally Posted By nepatriots2019
You cant actually think theres going to be some sort of terrorist group formed by incels right lol Incels are way too pussy to do something like that. They are crazy enough but dont have the balls.
Pretty sure that's covertly been the source of many, if not most of the terrorist acts in history bro.

I'm pretty sure people like Timothy McVeigh or the Columbine Massacre Guys were largely influenced by being incels and lonely losers. I imagine a large number of Muslim terrorists are the same. I mean jeez, the whole 72 virgins thing seems fairly indicative of some connect.
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Originally Posted By nepatriots2019
You cant actually think theres going to be some sort of terrorist group formed by incels right lol Incels are way too pussy to do something like that. They are crazy enough but dont have the balls.
You don't need balls when you have numbers on your side
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Originally Posted By Supaduck0
Pretty sure that's covertly been the source of many, if not most of the terrorist acts in history bro.

I'm pretty sure people like Timothy McVeigh or the Columbine Massacre Guys were largely influenced by being incels and lonely losers. I imagine a large number of Muslim terrorists are the same. I mean jeez, the whole 72 virgins thing seems fairly indicative of some connect.
Absolutely. They feel like they have nothing to lose and there's nothing more dangerous than that
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Originally Posted By nepatriots2019
You cant actually think theres going to be some sort of terrorist group formed by incels right lol Incels are way too pussy to do something like that. They are crazy enough but dont have the balls.
But who was supreme gentleman...

c'mon man, desperate/fukked up people do desperate/fukked up things.
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