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post 1578202361 04-16-2019, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By 1slo5oh
Strong unaware ITT.... You guys do realize the majority of licensed plumbers don't clean out clogged $hitters on a daily basis right? New construction and remodels are the big money makers not service...
Why do they keep saying being in a trade is bad in your late 20s like you can't easily pay for college?
post 1578202411 04-16-2019, 01:55 PM
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Actually just two nights ago a friend of my Dad's was telling me he knows a 30 year old plumber who raked in 700k this past year. He's on call 24/7 though.
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post 1578202561 04-16-2019, 01:58 PM
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Trade jobs have the benefit of being pretty much immune to outsourcing or automization, add in that most people just don't know sht about even basic things like plumbing/heating/AC ect and it's a pretty guaranteed career.
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post 1578202681 04-16-2019, 02:00 PM
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130k base pay (starting) before OT, north of 200k with OT

34h/week

6 weeks vacations (starting)

15 sick days

work 1 hour on, 1 hour off, in a cushy chair

Pension plan (1%/year) brb 50k / year retired, no contribution

0 debts

I think Ill pass on the blue collar shiit cuz.
post 1578202721 04-16-2019, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Reinhardt881
Actually just two nights ago a friend of my Dad's was telling me he knows a 30 year old plumber who raked in 700k this past year. He's on call 24/7 though.
lmao no

i know a guy who owns a successful plumbing company that specializes in service calls with 5 trucks on the road he grosses under a million year

so your 30 year old lone wolf taking home $700k is full of it my friend
post 1578202771 04-16-2019, 02:01 PM
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yep.... all office jobs are chit and you can't make any money and trade jobs are paying tons.... next
post 1578202831 04-16-2019, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By ZT89
130k base pay (starting) before OT, north of 200k with OT

34h/week

6 weeks vacations (starting)

15 sick days

work 1 hour on, 1 hour off, in a cushy chair

Pension plan (1%/year) brb 50k / year retired, no contribution

0 debts

I think Ill pass on the blue collar shiit cuz.
how far does $200k/yr go on $20 jugs of milk and million dollar houses

canada bux aint the same
post 1578202861 04-16-2019, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Why do they keep saying being in a trade is bad in your late 20s like you can't easily pay for college?
Because snowflakes are either too scared to get dirty for a living or just have sacks of dicks for hands and can't change a fkn flat tire let alone construct anything...

Personally I joined a local union when I was 20yo and did a 5y apprenticeship WHILE attending college classes on nights and weekends... I walked away from that with a Journeyman plumbers license and a degree in Mechanical Engineering... I used my field experience and contacts within the industry to eventually go to work designing Mechanical and plumbing systems for commercial buildings. I still keep my Plumbing license current but haven't actually had to use it since 2006. There is a lot of money to be made if your hustle is 100...
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post 1578202881 04-16-2019, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By tonybalogney
lmao no

i know a guy who owns a successful plumbing company that specializes in service calls with 5 trucks on the road he grosses under a million year

so your 30 year old lone wolf taking home $700k is full of it my friend
He's self employed with one other guy working for him.
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...and yet few want to be tradies, I wonder why. Maybe it's having you knees and back done in at 40, you career ended by falling off something, working in dirt and dealing with sub 100 iq *******s in their f-150s drinking monster energy.
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post 1578203241 04-16-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Reinhardt881
He's self employed with one other guy working for him.
you expect us to believe that a 2 man plumbing operation is netting $700k+ a year? unless your friend is in the mafia and getting handed fat contracts without bidding, there's zero chance he's making that kind of money competing in the open market
post 1578203301 04-16-2019, 02:08 PM
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with my career, I could literally top out at 350-1million

a plumber tops out at 90 and he has to tell people hes a plumber and has to clean chit

sorry tradies

u still lose

I can marry someone elegant named Elyse or Sydney while a tradie has to marry someone named Roxy or Jessie-Lynn
post 1578203371 04-16-2019, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By tonybalogney
you expect us to believe that a 2 man plumbing operation is netting $700k+ a year? unless your friend is in the mafia and getting handed fat contracts without bidding, there's zero chance he's making that kind of money competing in the open market
tbh I don't know if he factored in all the expenses, maybe the actual profit was lower.
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post 1578203571 04-16-2019, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By weightsb4dates
this. Lineman is the highest paying trade if im not mistaken. some of my bros went to lineman school and all owned houses, boats, trailers, sand toys etc, by the time we were 24 or 25. brb netting 150k a year when you are in your early 20s. makes me sad i missed that train tbh.
Eh, yes they do make a ton of money but its not what it's cracked up to be. One of my closest training partners at BJJ is a 45 year old lineman and like the head foreman in his group. he made like 180k last year and I can confirm he has all the toys you mentioned. However, he's constantly away from his home for weeks on end, especially in the summer and winter. he's 45,y et looks and move like he's 65. he's always telling depressing chit stories about being out in the rain/heat/snow for 12+ hours a time.


and while he's making crazy $$ now, it took 22 years in the industry to get where he is now.


Personally I'd rather make 80k working 36/hours per week in an air conditioned office doing something I enjoy and still be able to throw the ball around with my kid when I'm 50.

as opposed to 180k working 12 hour days, 60+ hour weeks, and being on wheel chair status in my mid 40's
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tradies are non stop working for the money im sitting in the office with a three piece on and a 8k rolex with my bros laughing half the time enjoy being in my attic
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post 1578203721 04-16-2019, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By devin45k
If I had any sort of parenting in my life, I would have chose some sort of trade over the officel life. Nobody ever told me what some trades were getting paid growing up.


I make decent money but the student loans sucked and I am not passionate about what I do at all for a career.
I told to get my education so I wouldn't have to work outside.

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post 1578203851 04-16-2019, 02:16 PM
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then a recession hits and the "office-cels" have to give tradies EI and welfare to keep them at bay
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post 1578204001 04-16-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By devin45k
If I had any sort of parenting in my life, I would have chose some sort of trade over the officel life.Nobody ever told me what some trades were getting paid growing up.


I make decent money but the student loans sucked and I am not passionate about what I do at all for a career.
If I had known the type of money that can be made in trades I would have started my union apprenticeship at 18 instead of 28 after f*cking off at college and dead end jobs the first 10 years of my adult life. After I finish my apprenticeship next year I'll be at ~70k a year without any overtime, which is plenty good enough for me.
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post 1578204361 04-16-2019, 02:23 PM
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ye they can make good money but they work for it. Also new construction plumbing there's no ****. Just because your only experience with a plumber is when he comes to unclog your toilet doesn't mean that's all he does.
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Just LMAO at the butthurt officels working in their cubicles right now... their paychecks just BARELY covering the rent on their 1 bedroom coffin apartment, the leased 3 series bmw, and the soy latte addictions they have. I hope your "college experience" was worth the debt you incurred that you will never pay off until late in your 50's.

I'm a project manager for a contractor. I think its hilarious people just assume you become a tradie and will always have to be one. You can go from foreman, to moving into the office. Plenty of guys become project managers, estimators, and even VP's of companies if you prove yourself out in the field. Even when i tell people what i do they automatically assume i am bottom of the barrel or some sort of laborer. Meanwhile, I've been living the boomer life since i turned 23 years old with a house in the burbs, 2 paid off vehicles, and plenty of extra cash to invest at the end of each week. Always amazes me people look down on skilled trades, even all the way up to executive managerial positions. Hopefully the next generation coming up is smarter than the majority of millennials.
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No lie. Plumbing is a goat job. My hot water heater went out a couple of days ago and I had to get it replaced. People take hot water /plumbing for granted.
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Nobody is on suicide watch except maybe the plumber. Most people don't want to do that kind of work no matter what it pays. Especially as they start getting older.
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I feel like people exaggerate how much the average tradie makes. It's always "I know a guy who makes 6 figures with lots of overtime, therefore every tradie makes that much". I don't think so brahs, if it was that easy then everyone would do it
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Originally Posted By Omnivium
I feel like people exaggerate how much the average tradie makes. It's always "I know a guy who makes 6 figures with lots of overtime, therefore every tradie makes that much". I don't think so brahs, if it was that easy then everyone would do it
You left out the "SKILLED" part of your comment. If you are a skilled electrican, plumber, HVAC, or welder, it's very possible to make 6 figures. If you are an illegal hanging drywall, or a guy who pushes a broom all day, you aren't making chit.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
No lie. Plumbing is a goat job. My hot water heater went out a couple of days ago and I had to get it replaced. People take hot water /plumbing for granted.
True, but a hot water heater is a pretty easy DIY. Took me about 3 hours start to finish to replace mine when it went out. They usually charge a few hundred at minimum to have it done by a plumber; this was kind of my point earlier (not aiming this at you) that people just don't know how to do the basics themselves anymore.
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Originally Posted By Omnivium
I feel like people exaggerate how much the average tradie makes. It's always "I know a guy who makes 6 figures with lots of overtime, therefore every tradie makes that much". I don't think so brahs, if it was that easy then everyone would do it
It doesn't take a whole lot of overtime to make 100k+ if you are in the ~$35 or higher hourly range.
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Originally Posted By Omnivium
I feel like people exaggerate how much the average tradie makes. It's always "I know a guy who makes 6 figures with lots of overtime, therefore every tradie makes that much". I don't think so brahs, if it was that easy then everyone would do it
That was the point i was trying to make on page 1, the tradie salaries you "hear about" are literally the top 1%

I'm interested to see how the ever increasing amount of cheap labor flooding into the country effects the future of the trades, and also what the future of unions will be. I know that a lot of stuff like masonry work, roofing, etc is being hit fairly hard. A job that used to cost $10k is getting done for literally half that by a bunch of guys who jump out of the back of a pickup truck. Im sure the more skilled ones like electrician, etc will fare well
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine
If I had known the type of money that can be made in trades I would have started my union apprenticeship at 18 instead of 28 after f*cking off at college and dead end jobs the first 10 years of my adult life. After I finish my apprenticeship next year I'll be at ~70k a year without any overtime, which is plenty good enough for me.
My dad is an electrical tradie in a union. He started at 20 and is now 60. I had no clue how much money he was making until he cosigned an apartment for me after college and saw his yearly income. He was almost at 200k as a tradie a year and I am sure he is well over that now.

I know it is not normal but the union thing with guaranteed raises and seniority trumps anything with layoffs is a sweet deal.
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Originally Posted By gbullock32
True, but a hot water heater is a pretty easy DIY. Took me about 3 hours start to finish to replace mine when it went out. They usually charge a few hundred at minimum to have it done by a plumber; this was kind of my point earlier (not aiming this at you) that people just don't know how to do the basics themselves anymore.
yea I know its pretty basic stuff but I don't want to deal with it and just let a pro do his thing. Most people are just too busy with their job and they don't like learning new chit, lol.
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