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post 1579524871 05-06-2019, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted By MattyMiscer
It was fuked up what they did to ghost. Basically wrote him out of the entire show despite being jon’s Direwolf, literally the last thing he said as he died in the books, and then just brought him back for a cheap sendoff. They absolutely mailed it in, no effort. Ghost should have been at his side every time we saw him sitting at the table in the great hall of winterfell, with him when he went north of the wall, etc. Ghost should have been at his side pretty much the entire series except for when he was captured by Mance Rayder and the wildlings.
This. What happened to Jon being "The White Wolf"? Ghost is part of Jon's identity.
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Brb Dany is 500 feet above, should have visibility for 30 miles out yet she can't see a WHOKE FUKIN fleet of ships right underneath a rock.

Brb You have a LITERAL GOD in a wheelchair that could answer and reveal all of cerceis tactics but you just talk about cool wheelchairs


Brb Arya killed the super villain of the entire series, no big deal lets not talk about it.

Brb Separate the army for no reason

Brb An arrow can pierce through thick dragon skin 500 feet away like it's butter.

I really hate complaining but it's ridiculous how terrible the writing is.
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
Meanwhile End Game had far more stakes and final payoffs than GOT has been having this final season.
Which is EXACTLY what Game of Thrones was never about.

Ned is not guilty, Sansa agrees to everything and will be Joeffreys bride - Ned dies anyway.
Robb Stark is a natural leader, unifies the North, choses to do the right thing every time - dies at the hands of the scum of the earth.
Lord Commander is an honorable dude, second father to all the Black - gets stabbed by his own men in the back for being honorable.

Yet everyone around here is like HERPDERP HEROES WIN, BADDIES LOSE!!!

If you want cookie-cutter, then stick to comic books and Marvel movies. Worst case you can reverse everything via time travel and you have have your happy-end.
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen
Brb Dany is 500 feet above, should have visibility for 30 miles out yet she can't see a WHOKE FUKIN fleet of ships right underneath a rock.

Brb You have a LITERAL GOD in a wheelchair that could answer and reveal all of cerceis tactics but you just talk about cool wheelchairs


Brb Arya killed the super villain of the entire series, no big deal lets not talk about it.

Brb Separate the army for no reason

Brb An arrow can pierce through thick dragon skin 500 feet away like it's butter.

I really hate complaining but it's ridiculous how terrible the writing is.
Yeah Rhaegal's death sounds dumber the more I think about it.

The should be near impossible to hit a moving target on a moving ship at that range, even if they got snuck up on. But they hit him 3 times. Euron is apparently the ancestor of Steph Curry.
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Originally Posted By nn586
how many movies/tv shows have they had meetings like that and nothing ever happens

cersei is clearly confident that she can have that meeting and take them on full force and still win
The appeal of GoT for me was that it wasn't like other shows/movies. Actions had consequences. Now it is just like other shows.
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saw this on another forum, how did this get through QA lmao

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A 10,000 year old ice god missed. Greyjoy landed three in a row.
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First two episodes of this season were actually quite promising but now I see why they decided to only add half a season. These writers would not be bale to carry on much longer on their own.

Positives of this episode:

brb Dany turning mad angle and Clarke's acting is surprisingly on point. None of this chitSpoiler!

brb Sansa putting that pin on Theon hit me in the feels.
brb Theon and Varys scheming.


Negatives:

brb Jamie and Brienne smashing was a mistake. Their relationship was much more interesting when there was that comradely with some sexual tension there.
brb Bran is now a vegetable.
brb Cersei being overly dramatically mustache-twirling evil with that smirk
brb Moving on from the whole NK thing in 2 minutes. What was even the point of that storyline? Doesn't feel like a threat to the world with any consequence other than a couple of characters dying.
brb Stealthy pirate fleet
brb 3 or 4 scorpions shoot down one dragon but as Dany gets much closer not a single one hits her dragon.
brb John telling Sam he was the best friend he ever had and Ghost is there hearing it all like 'really man?' and John doesn't pet him or say anything.

Things I didn't mind:

brb Bronn sneaking in I really didn't mind. Everyone is lucky to be alive and is celebrating. I can see how they wouldn't be thinking about guarding themselves from an assassin after battling a million monsters where any one of them could die.
brb Jamie leaving. Didn't sound to me like he went back to her. More like he blamed her for his own evil and he went to kill her.
brb Scorpions being stronger was showcased in an earlier season when one destroyed a dragon skull. These are scorpions 2.0 that don't need to hit the eye. It is problematic that such a weapon can be made and mass produced, basically rendering dragons useless.
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Originally Posted By wings_unhinged
A 10,000 year old ice god missed. Greyjoy landed three in a row.
Pretty sure the Night King one-shot Viserion with a spear throw using his arm ... Euron and his fleet used ballistas with a crosshair ... did you even watch the show or do you just repeat the complaning of others?
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
she is a euneck now
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Originally Posted By GotNext
Which is EXACTLY what Game of Thrones was never about.

Ned is not guilty, Sansa agrees to everything and will be Joeffreys bride - Ned dies anyway.
Robb Stark is a natural leader, unifies the North, choses to do the right thing every time - dies at the hands of the scum of the earth.
Lord Commander is an honorable dude, second father to all the Black - gets stabbed by his own men in the back for being honorable.

Yet everyone around here is like HERPDERP HEROES WIN, BADDIES LOSE!!!

If you want cookie-cutter, then stick to comic books and Marvel movies. Worst case you can reverse everything via time travel and you have have your happy-end.
Lmao @ this COPE. Keep pretending this show isn't just cookie-cutter, predictable garbage at this point.
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen
Brb Dany is 500 feet above, should have visibility for 30 miles out yet she can't see a WHOKE FUKIN fleet of ships right underneath a rock.

Brb You have a LITERAL GOD in a wheelchair that could answer and reveal all of cerceis tactics but you just talk about cool wheelchairs


Brb Arya killed the super villain of the entire series, no big deal lets not talk about it.

Brb Separate the army for no reason

Brb An arrow can pierce through thick dragon skin 500 feet away like it's butter.

I really hate complaining but it's ridiculous how terrible the writing is.
Makes no sense why they aren't using Bran 24/7. "Hey Bran, what's Cersei up to?" "Hey Bran, can you scout this area for us?"

Nope. Lmao @ this shows writing.
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Originally Posted By AreolaBorealis
she is a euneck now
Now she has one more thing in common with Grey Worm.

They both lost their heads.
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Inb4 Euron was looking at the sky in the episode preview because Arya flew in to stab him.
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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13
The real insanity is that the show has spent so much time telling us that Dany is a good leader and inspires people like Tyrion, and now they're telling us she's crazy in the last few episodes. A growing number of unsightly, interconnected problems with the recent seasons are
(1) The reliance upon telling the audience exactly how we should feel or what we should believe rather than building up these facets through the episodes themselves.

(2) Cutting away from events and conversations, sometimes critical, other times merely valuable character building moments that would help us naturally connect with the story as opposed to having to do the show's job ourselves by forming head-canon to explain their lack of explanations.

(3) Forcing characters to behave based upon where they want the plot to go rather than directing the plot based on choices/actions the characters would realistically make by their own accord, not the writer's.

I agree with you so much. I don't mind if Dany gets killed although I want her on the throne. What bothers me are the characters not being themselves anymore.

When Tyrion confronted Cersei to get her to surrender, he gave a long, maybe heart-felt speech about how she's not a monster, etc.

Yet when Sansa asks him why he supports Dany, he goes blank, herp derp "I believe in her?" I'm thinking, wtf after 2 seasons of seeing what Dany is about, actually being there at her side and witnessing, you can't muster a few words on Dany's behalf?

Not that he needed to, Dany did save Winterfell's arse. She should've just attacked KL in season 7 like she wanted to, and let the WW kill the idiots in the North.

Now we just going to have sex between characters all over the place?
That's how I know we have dumb TV show writers wrapping things up. Anytime ideas have run out, default plan is to add sex scenes between main characters. Next we'll see Arya and Brienne together laughing about how they are 100% sure of being lesbos.

Speaking of Tyrion and Cersei, you know the real Cersei would have let arrows fly towards Tyrion. But maybe she's changed her heart since she knows it was Lady Tyrell who poisoned Joffrey.

Jon Snow can't keep a fukin secret either. got dayum.
Originally Posted By NukYavlen
Inb4 Euron was looking at the sky in the episode preview because Arya flew in to stab him.
lmao jumping of a dragon.
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Originally Posted By AreolaBorealis
she is a euneck now
Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
Now she has one more thing in common with Grey Worm.

They both lost their heads.
Both of you officially are no longer allowed to criticize D&D's writing.

My god ...
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Originally Posted By GotNext
Which is EXACTLY what Game of Thrones was never about.

Ned is not guilty, Sansa agrees to everything and will be Joeffreys bride - Ned dies anyway.
Robb Stark is a natural leader, unifies the North, choses to do the right thing every time - dies at the hands of the scum of the earth.
Lord Commander is an honorable dude, second father to all the Black - gets stabbed by his own men in the back for being honorable.


Yet everyone around here is like HERPDERP HEROES WIN, BADDIES LOSE!!!

If you want cookie-cutter, then stick to comic books and Marvel movies. Worst case you can reverse everything via time travel and you have have your happy-end.
Everything there was written by fukking GRRM.... not these idiots.... WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE IS COMPLAINING NOW. GET IT????
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking
Everything there was written by fukking GRRM.... not these idiots.... WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE IS COMPLAINING NOW. GET IT????
No, because when did D&D switch to Marvel-level payoffs?

What I am saying is that AT LEAST THAT PART is still true to the show overall.

People saying "herp derp, heroes must win!!! Jon wins everything!!!" haven't been paying attention. And guys saying "YOU MUST PET DOGGO!!" are projecting their lives in Buttfuk, Alabama to the situation of Jon in Winterfell, Westeros.
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PLEASE STOP saying negative things about this season guys!!! If you have nothing positive to say then DO NOT post in this DISCUSSION thread about the show!




Signed all of the fuking *******s ITT complaining about people being critical of the show.



I've been watching GoT since season 1 episode 1. They are undoubtedly doing stupid chit this season. You won't see me complaining in all of the other mega threads. If you don't want to hear people complain then how about you lock yourself in an echo chamber and fist yourself.
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Originally Posted By GotNext
No, because when did D&D switch to Marvel-level payoffs?

What I am saying is that AT LEAST THAT PART is still true to the show overall.

People saying "herp derp, heroes must win!!! Jon wins everything!!!" haven't been paying attention. And guys saying "YOU MUST PET DOGGO!!" are projecting their lives in Buttfuk, Alabama to the situation of Jon in Winterfell, Westeros.
Nice ad hominem. Now we have magical dragon dates, captain jack greyjoy sauntering around, super sneaky bronn with his cartoon crossbow, and countless action movie tropes.
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Wait, that coffee cup actually made it into the episode? Apparently you can see the dead Dothraki dude breathing too.
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Originally Posted By canonhope
Speaking of Tyrion and Cersei, you know the real Cersei would have let arrows fly towards Tyrion. But maybe she's changed her heart since she knows it was Lady Tyrell who poisoned Joffrey.

i thought for sure she would light his ass up. She fukkin HATES Tyrion. And then for his little speech trying to appeal to her better nature? You fukkin what? WHY WOULD HE THINK THAT WOULD WORK? That is a very not Tyrion thing to do. The real Tyrion knows she's an evil cutthroat and would gladly turn him into a pincushion.

I cannot stand what Tyrion has become. He's like a shell of his former self. I think we all hold onto hope that he somehow gets back to the smart, witty, politically savvy Imp that we grew to love in seasons 1-4. I've never been so heartbroken over a characters non-death before.
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Originally Posted By GotNext
No, because when did D&D switch to Marvel-level payoffs?

What I am saying is that AT LEAST THAT PART is still true to the show overall.

People saying "herp derp, heroes must win!!! Jon wins everything!!!" haven't been paying attention. And guys saying "YOU MUST PET DOGGO!!" are projecting their lives in Buttfuk, Alabama to the situation of Jon in Winterfell, Westeros.
Endgame had exactly zero payoffs, they literally introduced timetravelling plot ketchup which opens up endless possibilities, so pretty much everything was inconsequential. But I digress.

Twists before the Dumb & Dumber idiots took over the writing were used to RESOLVE previously built-up plot threads. Cersei & co. were perfectly willing to let Ned take the Black and leave, but since they didn't think of putting a leash on Joffrey, the salty sociopath ordered Ilyn Payne to behead him, and they couldn't overrule him in the open. It was an in-character move for everyone.

Similar with the Red Wedding.

Now it's very obvious, that they START with the "twist" and then work their way backwards and try to make sense of it. Which of course is bs as they just throw out any and all build-up and previous characterization.

"K, Dany's too strong with two dragons, what do we do?"
"Teleporting invisible ninja pirate fleet with scorpions, sniping one of them from the skies"
"Genious. What else?"
"Cersei should get another ally, Dany and co are still too strong."
"Jamie it is."
"Hmm, won't some of the viewers whine about another heel-turn for Jamie's character?"
"Nah, remember he said in Ep2 that he would do it all over again for his family, no ragrets."
"That's why I love you."
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There seems to be a strong correlation between being a LeBron fan and thinking this season of GOT is amazing
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My thoughts on how Dany deals with Euron based on the preview:

Spoiler!
Euron looks up at the clouds and hears a Dragon. It seems like Dany/Drogon will stay above the clouds for cover and dive straight down to attack Euron. I don't think the Scorpions can shoot directly upwards.
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