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Thread: HBO's Game of Thrones - Open Discussion - Final Season VIII

post 1579605601 05-07-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By GotNext⏩
Yes, the picture above is clearly CGI ... they thought they better add some CGI scaffolding so the pixels are more stable. How thoughtful of them.
So a show known for having to cut corners on budget all the time just coincidentally builds a new castle set which strongly resembles one from way back.

Ok.

The fukers even changed the whole location of KL, not to mention the mountains and forests and grass.








Video is from 5 episodes ago.

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I’m gonna have to check out of curiosity but on HBO Now, apparently they have edited the coffee cup out.
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Right, isn't that what i said? That he has had excellent character development so it would be a shame to ruin it by having him go back to Cercei. What's your point other than deepthroating the writer's cock?
Lmao I guess if anyone doesn't hate everything that D&D do I suppose that is sucking their cock

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Originally Posted By GotNext⏩
He was joking, because it wasn't, but all of your are turning into doomsayers, expecting literally everything to go to chit.

The STORY has problems, and most ITT agree with that, but its still a good show and entertaining. Some of you need to chill the fuk out.
Damn dude...

You and I have really similar conclusions about GOT and Endgame.

I'll keep my eye out for your reviews on films and movies, cos it seems like we might have similar tastes.
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post 1579605901 05-07-2019, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Lmao I guess if anyone doesn't hate everything that D&D do I suppose that is sucking their cock

The writing has gone to chit in the recent seasons...
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Lmao I guess if anyone doesn't hate everything that D&D do I suppose that is sucking their cock

Nobody hates "everything". But there are serious flaws with the writing these past seasons. Can you say that you are 100% confident on the writers that they won't fuk up Jamie's character?

Keep replying with emojis.
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Honestly, Im going to be pissed with the whole mad queen angle that they're doing with Dany. After episode 1, it looked like they were either going to go mad queen or set her up for a self sacrifice to save the world from the night king. Now that the night king is dead and we're likely not going to get an explanation or a twist that he's still alive somehow via Bran turning or some other way, the mad queen route is the only option, especially given episode 4.

Heres to hoping she lights the entire continent of Westerros on fire before that happens
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Nobody hates "everything". But there are serious flaws with the writing these past seasons. Can you say that you are 100% confident on the writers that they won't fuk up Jamier's character?

Keep replying with emojis.
I feel like...

I liked it better when it was material from the books. After GRRM stopped giving D&D material, the writing just fell off a cliff.
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Originally Posted By GotNext⏩
What about Cersei makes you think she gives a fuk about the baby? lmao
That's always been one of her core motivations as a character, protecting her children from harm.
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Nobody hates "everything". But there are serious flaws with the writing these past seasons. Can you say that you are 100% confident on the writers that they won't fuk up Jamie's character?

Keep replying with emojis.
why.. are these emojis triggering you boyo? time for your safe space away from pics on a screen?

I've always said numerous times I take each season in TOTALITY. Game of Thrones always has callbacks and this season is supposed to be, in my eyes, like a long movie. I haven't seen the end yet. So not gonna judge what the writers "could do".. rather what they have done.

Already agreed that the writing isn't 10/10 like the old days, but it still is an 8/10-9/10 on most episodes. I've accepted that.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
why.. are these emojis triggering you boyo? time for your safe space away from pics on a screen?

I've always said numerous times I take each season in TOTALITY. Game of Thrones always has callbacks and this season is supposed to be, in my eyes, like a long movie. I haven't seen the end yet. So not gonna judge what the writers "could do".. rather what they have done.

Already agreed that the writing isn't 10/10 like the old days, but it still is an 8/10-9/10 on most episodes. I've accepted that.
Honestly I just think they use too many deus ex machinas
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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13⏩
Dany was always inexperienced, naive, and emotionally charged, but instead of allowing her character to mature, they doubled down by making her crazy ex-girlfriend crazy and so driven by a jealous rage to snatch the throne that she lost yet another "child," arguably her only true friend, and what we can only assume was the remaining bit of sanity preventing her from proving Cersei right in an attack on King's Landing. For her constant talk of breaking the wheel and ushering in change, her direction is now headed towards her becoming precisely what she has spoken against because the writers think making her behave like a petulant teenager is somehowmoreenthralling than characters learning and growing to overcome challenges.
My perspective...

They've been hinting at her 'mad queen' tendencies, and her growing sense of entitlement since Season 1.

Dany has learned to grow and overcome challenges, however she has (like everyone) bad traits, and in a very short space of time has endured massive amounts of trauma; breaking up with the man she loves, the death of her best friends, and the death of 2 Dragons.

She's been in back to back wars. One with the night king and one with Cersei, the fact that she lost so much is plausible given the context. Every character's worst traits come to the surface when they face overwhelming trauma.

The stakes are high in wars, and she's lost a lot in them. A very plausible context for her, as a leader, to lose a lot.
As with Daenerys, the writers threw away his entire arc in exchange for a last couple episodes of soap opera bullsh*t.
I don't think they've thrown away her arc, they've just made her arc from a benevolent leader with a tamed narcissism and bad temper, to her narcissism and bad temper taking centre stage after enduring massive trauma and (as we will probably see next episode) betrayal.

Something which (IMO) they've been hinting at being something she needed help controlling from Slaver's bay.

Some character's go from positive to negative in their arc, like Dany.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Honestly I just think they use too many deus ex machinas
I don't think I've ever heard the words:

"deus ex machinas"
"plot armor"
"subverting expectations"

other than when talking about this show since episode 3 lmao. It's like people can't help themselves but parrot phrases they've read online or seen on a video
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
That's always been one of her core motivations as a character, protecting her children from harm.
Yes, that is true, but Cersei also KNOWS that she won't have a fourth child. --> Maggy the Frog's prophecy, Cersei strongly believes that the prophecy is true

Recap of prophecy was basically:
- Cersei and Robert will have 0 children together
- Robert will have 16/20 children (so all bastards, the books and show differ in the numbers I believe)
- Cersei will have 3, all three will have golden hair (calls it golden crowns) and die before her
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
I don't think I've ever heard the words:

"deus ex machinas"
"plot armor"
"subverting expectations"

other than when talking about this show since episode 3 lmao. It's like people can't help themselves but parrot phrases they've read online or seen on a video
You know that you are just exposing yourself as a moron when you post things like this right?
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
I don't think I've ever heard the words:

"deus ex machinas"
Really? You've never heard that phrase before?

Really?
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
post 1579607321 05-07-2019, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
I don't think I've ever heard the words:

"deus ex machinas"
"plot armor"
"subverting expectations"

other than when talking about this show since episode 3 lmao. It's like people can't help themselves but parrot phrases they've read online or seen on a video
There is a reason you see these words so much lately. I’ll let you guess what that means about the writing. Unless you think that there’s a great conspiracy to lower the appeal of the show which is entirely possible for a guy in his 30s that posts wstar memes in his posts.

“Subverting expectations “ is a meme FYI.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
You know that you are just exposing yourself as a moron when you post things like this right?
I don't value opinions of morons as yourself.. sorry boyo

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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Really? You've never heard that phrase before?

Really?
Name the last time you've used that phrase other then with this last season. Bet you've never used it in your life.
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[QUOTE=Jaydawg08 post_id=1579607371]I don't value opinions of morons as yourself.. sorry boyo

[img]http://i.imgur.com/O7x5gVw.png[/][/QUOTE]This sentence doesn’t make any sense. No wonder you’ve never heard certain words before.
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Originally Posted By flexnation⏩
Honestly, Im going to be pissed with the whole mad queen angle that they're doing with Dany. After episode 1, it looked like they were either going to go mad queen or set her up for a self sacrifice to save the world from the night king. Now that the night king is dead and we're likely not going to get an explanation or a twist that he's still alive somehow via Bran turning or some other way, the mad queen route is the only option, especially given episode 4.

Heres to hoping she lights the entire continent of Westerros on fire before that happens
My issue with the Mad Queen angle is the lack of foreshadowing. We needed more scenes of Dany being paranoid and suspicious in previous seasons. We know that she is a chit ruler and she loves to burn things down, but is that enough to carry the story?
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Dayum, I checked again in the wiki and was right with the 16/20 bastard kids for Robert, but then I saw something I had forgotten...

Spoiler (just backstory, not something I know or have been spoilered)

Spoiler!
Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.[1]

Valonqar is High Valyrian for "little brother". The term is used by Maggy, a maegi and fortune teller from Lannisport, when making a prophecy to Cersei Lannister in 276 AC.[1] The translation of the term is later given to Cersei by Septa Saranella.[1]

As far as I know both Tyrion and Jaime are technically younger brothers to Cersei - so those who posted "Jaime rides to King's Landing to choke Cersei" either referenced that or saw a spoiler somewhere


I had completely forgotten about that part, thought Cersei only hated Tyrion for Joeffrey and the death of their mother.
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Originally Posted By GotNext⏩
Yes, that is true, but Cersei also KNOWS that she won't have a fourth child. --> Maggy the Frog's prophecy, Cersei strongly believes that the prophecy is true

Recap of prophecy was basically:
- Cersei and Robert will have 0 children together
- Robert will have 16/20 children (so all bastards, the books and show differ in the numbers I believe)
- Cersei will have 3, all three will have golden hair (calls it golden crowns) and die before her
That implies that Cersei gives af about Maggy's prophecy. She definitely remembers it, but she doesn't KNOW beforehand that their kid will die.

Plus she and Robert did actually have a kid, but he died at a very young age.

Books also mention that she aborted iirc several of Robert's babies.
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I've tried to make this point earlier in this thread that it's impossible to tie up all of the storylines within the parameters of TV, budget and time. Even if they went the route of a 10 episode season there's no way to fully explain all of the magical NK elements without an increased CGI budget (imo) while simultaneously keeping the political aspects moving forward.

GRRM has an unlimited budget and unlimited time to finish a series he started working on over 25 years ago and he is nowhere close to completing it. Yet miscers with their extensive author resumes are saying D&D are complete trash bc of rushef aspects and below A+ level writing. It's frankly insulting when there have been so many great scenes and arcs post canon material in the last 3 seasons.

Yes the writng isn't the same but lets not act like it isn't still well above most everything else currently on TV. If the scrutiny people applied to GOT to other great works (e.g. the Sopranos) the level of greatness will be diminished. I hope GOT gets remembered as glowingly as the Sopranos and other shows.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
This sentence doesn’t make any sense. No wonder you’ve never heard certain words before.
We've already discussed why you don't like this season anymore boyo. I get it, you hate Arya and some of the female characters.. let's just agree to disagree going forward

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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
We've already discussed why you don't like this season anymore boyo. I get it, you hate Arya and some of the female characters.. let's just agree to disagree going forward

What actually happened was that you admitted to being a troll who just likes to argue but ok. Agree to disagree.
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I pretty happy with the way things are going. I've never like Dany's character and have always seen her heading in this direction. Jon needs to grow a pair or he can die for all I care. I enjoyed the episodes with Arya and the Hound. Maybe we will get a little more of that. I'm personally hoping to see "Clegane Bowl" happen. Don't know what the outcome of that will be but it should be good. Fingers crossed for some Jamie redemption.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
That implies that Cersei gives af about Maggy's prophecy. She definitely remembers it, but she doesn't KNOW beforehand that their kid will die.

Plus she and Robert did actually have a kid, but the died at a very young age.

Books also mention that she aborted iirc several of Robert's babies.
No, in the books Cersei talks about ONE abortion, and an abortion is not a child.

And Cersei DOES give a fuk about Maggy's prophecy:



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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
What actually happened was that you admitted to being a troll who just likes to argue but ok. Agree to disagree.
Nah not a troll. you just can't handle the truth and are blinded by hate
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