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Thread: HBO's Game of Thrones - Open Discussion - Final Season VIII

post 1579614491 05-07-2019, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
I thought they had waonloads of gold from taking out the Tyrells. Which makes you wonder why the Tyrells didn't hire the Golden Company.
No point in hiring the Golden Company without having something like the Iron Fleet to cross them over from Bravos. and the Tyrell's gold was enough to pay off the PRIOR debt - we don't know if the new loan is much larger to hire the Golden Company.
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post 1579614591 05-07-2019, 12:19 PM
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I never understood the hate for season 2 of The Wire. Maybe because the Sobotkas weren't as interesting as the Barksdale or Marlo's crews but it was still spectacular. Its still probably the worst season out of the 5 but it still shyts on 95% of the seasons from any other Tv show
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post 1579614671 05-07-2019, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By GotNext⏩
Because the way he said it (go read the full transcript or watch the full video) was: while Dany was solely focused on the Night King and chit up north, Cersei and Eugon didn't fiddle with their thumbs and instead put a plan in motion. He said "forgot about them" in a sense of "took her eyes off them".

You've been spamming "out of context" for 5 pages now. They literally said that quote. The fact that YOU choose to interpet it as "took her eyes off them" does not make it out of context.
It is ridiculous to "take your eyes off" your main enemy when they have pulled the same trick before. It's simply bad writing.
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
I watch Billlions and have seen The Wire, Breaking bad, and Spartacus.Spartacus' writing was garbage but the fight scenes and nudity made it very entertaining.The Wire is the closest thing to real life drama I've seen on TV.

I think you're being overly critical of the drop off. I read the books between S1 and S2 for GOT and it was a great series. I have always kept my expectations for TV or film different than literature bc the translation is near impossible. Meeting everyone's expectations for a book to TV series is not doable no matter who is the director or author. D&D attempted the first 8 season long high fantasy political drama I've ever heard of and have done a very good job overall imo. I think the last 2 seasons are well above average TV and the first 6 are amazing. In my estimation it is not possible to finish this series without a full 10 to 11 year run without any budget limitations. That's not how the real world works. While HBO wanted 10 years but they weren't giving out a blank check.

Has anyone with major complaints ever bothered to complain to GRRM as it's his fault the showrunners aren't meeting his level of writing? Someone also needs to explain how the genius creator himself can't find the time or energy to finish a 7 book series he started outlining in 1991.
You should watch it again then lol... because it miles beyond anything we’ve seen from GoT since they got away from the books. Dialogue was great. Acting was great. Characters STAYED true to their character. People died when they should have died. The last season felt a bit rushed (should have been 4 or 5 seasons instead of 3) but overall it was quite strong.

And to be clear... I hate GRRM for pretty much giving up on the books at this point. I always contrast him to James Corey (guy who writes the Expanse novels). He’s realeased a book every year or two and hasn’t been distracted by the fact that they made a show out of it too.
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honestly, i think what was more rediculous than Euron shooting Rhaegal out of the sky was the fact Cersei simply let them go at the end.

Dany, Tyrion, a couple unsullied, and her last dragon show up at the gates alone. Everyone she needs to kill in order to end the game of thrones and ensure her crown. But somehow, the most ruthless **** alive, who blew up the fuking Septum Baelor, somehow found the honor to honor a parlay. absurd IMO. She should have launched every arrow
and ballistae at them in that moment.
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post 1579614741 05-07-2019, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
You've been spamming "out of context" for 5 pages now. They literally said that quote. The fact that YOU choose to interpet it as "took her eyes off them" does not make it out of context.
It is ridiculous to "take your eyes off" your main enemy when they have pulled the same trick before. It's simply bad writing.
Especially when the war council talked about the Iron Fleet right before leaving Winterfell.
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
I watch Billlions and have seen The Wire, Breaking bad, and Spartacus.Spartacus' writing was garbagebut the fight scenes and nudity made it very entertaining. The Wire is the closest thing to real life drama I've seen on TV.




post 1579614791 05-07-2019, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By flexnation⏩
I never understood the hate for season 2 of The Wire. Maybe because the Sobotkas weren't as interesting as the Barksdale or Marlo's crews but it was still spectacular. Its still probably the worst season out of the 5 but it still shyts on 95% of the seasons from any other Tv show
It was definitely good. Was just hard to go in that different direction after you became so invested in the guys from S1.
post 1579614881 05-07-2019, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By flexnation⏩
I never understood the hate for season 2 of The Wire. Maybe because the Sobotkas weren't as interesting as the Barksdale or Marlo's crews but it was still spectacular. Its still probably the worst season out of the 5 but it still shyts on 95% of the seasons from any other Tv show
I completely agree, I was just pointing out the complaints at the time when that show aired. Generally people as a whole romanticize the past because we tend to remember the good amd less of the bad. There's far more good to all of these shows than bad. I just hope GOT gets a decent objective view instead of the biggest nitpicks in TV history.
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post 1579614951 05-07-2019, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
You should watch it again then lol... because it miles beyond anything we’ve seen from GoT since they got away from the books. Dialogue was great. Acting was great.
lol, now I know you are fuking around

Spartacus .. the first 6 episodes were horrendous!!! Absolute chit. I had to convince countless friends to struggle through that crap because it got so much better. Then it was, for a lot of seasons, but when they finally stopped being gladiators and became this Spartacus-led rebellion it went to chit again.
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Originally Posted By flexnation⏩
I never understood the hate for season 2 of The Wire. Maybe because the Sobotkas weren't as interesting as the Barksdale or Marlo's crews but it was still spectacular. Its still probably the worst season out of the 5 but it still shyts on 95% of the seasons from any other Tv show
It took about 60% of the season for me to actually get interested into it. Was different (which can be good) but took awhile.
post 1579615051 05-07-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah⏩
honestly, i think what was more rediculous than Euron shooting Rhaegal out of the sky was the fact Cersei simply let them go at the end.

Dany, Tyrion, a couple unsullied, and her last dragon show up at the gates alone. Everyone she needs to kill in order to end the game of thrones and ensure her crown. But somehow, the most ruthless **** alive, who blew up the fuking Septum Baelor, somehow found the honor to honor a parlay. absurd IMO. She should have launched every arrow
and ballistae at them in that moment.
This.

It will be especially lulzy if it comes back to bite her in the ass. Cersei, who was absolutely cool with murdering bastard infants and blowing up half the city, getting fukd over because parlay.
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
You should watch it again then lol... because it miles beyond anything we’ve seen from GoT since they got away from the books. Dialogue was great. Acting was great. Characters STAYED true to their character. People died when they should have died. The last season felt a bit rushed (should have been 4 or 5 seasons instead of 3) but overall it was quite strong.

And to be clear... I hate GRRM for pretty much giving up on the books at this point. I always contrast him to James Corey (guy who writes the Expanse novels). He’s realeased a book every year or two and hasn’t been distracted by the fact that they made a show out of it too.
I've watched the series 3 times (and even posted on this board about how Whitfields replacement did a damn good job). I just got tired of the c0ck in a$$ jokes every 3 scenes. I found the show very entertaining overall. However it's not high level literature. Characters were very true to who they were but they were more black and white in nature without the nuances GRRM and D&D are trying to deal with.
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post 1579615241 05-07-2019, 12:29 PM
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What happened to that big ass fleet of ships Dany procured a few seasons ago?
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post 1579615271 05-07-2019, 12:29 PM
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i lol'd when the ginger did the super saiyan soy mouth at 10:07
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post 1579615321 05-07-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By GotNext⏩
lol, now I know you are fuking around

Spartacus .. the first 6 episodes were horrendous!!! Absolute chit. I had to convince countless friends to struggle through that crap because it got so much better. Then it was, for a lot of seasons, but when they finally stopped being gladiators and became this Spartacus-led rebellion it went to chit again.
I'd say first 4-5, but yeah, we can agree that the beginning was terrible.

For me it's still one of the best TV shows ever, I really loved it up until the very end. ymmv

You know the writing is good when Jai fuking Courtney is actually a compelling character you can root for.
post 1579615361 05-07-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By flexnation⏩
I never understood the hate for season 2 of The Wire. Maybe because the Sobotkas weren't as interesting as the Barksdale or Marlo's crews but it was still spectacular. Its still probably the worst season out of the 5 but it still shyts on 95% of the seasons from any other Tv show
I liked the Sobotkas lol. I didn't like the whole journalism plot however.
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post 1579615431 05-07-2019, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By GotNext⏩
lol, now I know you are fuking around

Spartacus .. the first 6 episodes were horrendous!!! Absolute chit. I had to convince countless friends to struggle through that crap because it got so much better. Then it was, for a lot of seasons, but when they finally stopped being gladiators and became this Spartacus-led rebellion it went to chit again.
Nah. Think the first 2 (maybe 3) were spotty, but it was solid after that. Even after they had to change the lead (which a ton of people hated).

Glaber, Ilythia, Saxa, Gannicus, Marcus Crassus... none of them were in S1. And every one of them were awesome characters.

Only thing you really missed from the later seasons was Battiatus.
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
What happened to that big ass fleet of ships Dany procured a few seasons ago?
Pretty sure Euron took them out too. The guy is a literal god.
post 1579615531 05-07-2019, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
What happened to that big ass fleet of ships Dany procured a few seasons ago?
Euron killed off most of Yara's fleet in Ep2 last season, then mopped the rest of Dany's fleet - most of it - at Casterly Rock in the next episode.




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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
What happened to that big ass fleet of ships Dany procured a few seasons ago?
In season 7 when the unsullied sailed to Casterly Rock, Euron surprised them and sank the fleet. Jamie outmaneuvered Tyrion by sacrificing the Rock to take High Garden. Dany flew in fornthe Loot Train battle the next episode.
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
people have been talking about daenerys' and sam's plot armor since s1 boyo
Sam has more plot armor than anyone on this show. His fat ass should've been cooked years ago.

Also tyrion spoke about the baby at the gate but euron doesnt question how he knows about it?

Also what happened to the baby the NK took a few seasons back?
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
And to be clear... I hate GRRM for pretty much giving up on the books at this point. I always contrast him to James Corey (guy who writes the Expanse novels). He’s realeased a book every year or two and hasn’t been distracted by the fact that they made a show out of it too.
FYI Corey is actually two people writing in collaboration.

Agree that GRRM clearly hit writers block though. He made his story too big and now can't finish it.

All the stuff that he planned hasn't occurred - the 5 year time skip (which would have been used to explain Arya coming back as an assassin - 5 years being taught by the Faceless Men instead of a few months, etc) - he gave up on it as he realised he was writing too many flashback scenes to explain the intervening 5 years.

The story got away from him. it's a shame, but that's how it is.
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
Nah. Think the first 2 (maybe 3) were spotty, but it was solid after that. Even after they had to change the lead (which a ton of people hated).

Glaber, Ilythia, Saxa, Gannicus, Marcus Crassus... none of them were in S1. And every one of them were awesome characters.

Only thing you really missed from the later seasons was Battiatus.
Ilythia was in S1 bc that's when Spartacus got her pregnant. I think Glaber was in S1 too.
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
I've watched the series 3 times (and even posted on this board about how Whitfields replacement did a damn good job). I just got tired of the c0ck in a$$ jokes every 3 scenes. I found the show very entertaining overall. Howeverit's not high level literature. Characters were very true to who they were but they were more black and white in nature without the nuances GRRM and D&D are trying to deal with.
Neither is this from S6 on lol. It’s like 2 completely different shows. It’s painful to see what they’ve done to Tyrion’s character (and what they did to Littlefinger). Two of the most interesting guys in the entire show... and one’s dead... and the other one might as well be for all he’s done lately.
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Originally Posted By Garnett⏩
Ilythia was in S1 bc that's when Spartacus got her pregnant. I think Glaber was in S1 too.
Once again Gods see fit to ram cock in ass.

Yes Glaber and Ilythia were in S1
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17⏩
I liked the Sobotkas lol. I didn't like the whole journalism plot however.
The Sobotkas were a fantastic storyline.

The journalism storyline was boring. It was too cut and dry on who were the good guys and who were the bad guys. No ambiguity whatsoever in a show that was popular for its shades of grey.
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Originally Posted By ragingcrayon⏩
Bronn gonna take all
Bronn got greedy...he's going that Kreese Cobra Kai route over Johnny. Would've loved to see him in an epilogue banging some princess in his castle but...Higharden? Dumb writing here, completely out of Bronn's character.
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03⏩
Sam has more plot armor than anyone on this show. His fat ass should've been cooked years ago.

Also tyrion spoke about the baby at the gate but euron doesnt question how he knows about it?

Also what happened to the baby the NK took a few seasons back?
Sam is GRRM's avatar so he can't die. Let's wait for Ep5 before we criticize if Euron can put 2 and 2 together.
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking⏩
Only thing you really missed from the later seasons was Battiatus.
Guess I was the only one who liked Barca .. :/
Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Once again Gods see fit to ram cock in ass
Excellent timing for that lol

You fukin kunts are gonna make me re-watch Spartacus after GOT ends
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