Yet, before you read it in big white letters on a screencap you and probably no one else here remembered that.

Thats why this nitpicking is ridiculous.

Right, you know, because nobody has read the books, nobody knows he's the Onion Knight b/c he snuck onions to Stannis as he was starving, or nobody has actually watched the show to remember all the scenes of Davos being a sailor. Gotcha

It was silly, which is to say standing next to other criticisms of this season and that episode, not note worthy. I felt like addressing the unprecedented naval ambush of air units and medieval crossbows beyond modern cannons first. Not really worth pointing out someone has ink on their shirt when their nose is on fire, that kind of thing. It's still a big blotchy ink splot on a nice shirt and they really should get some club soda on it ASAP, but first they need to worry about their face on fire.

Some teaser images for Episode 5. I'm gonna throw them in a spoiler tag despite them being teasers from HBO and not revealing anything unexpected. Open image in new tab for big versions

Spoiler!

Don't care about the criticism etc, I'm excited af for this battle


Also hadn't considered until now that the wall-mounted crossbows probably can't even target ground level

But thats exactly my point. I remember all those scenes as well, BUT: amongst the real fuk-ups, that is either trivial or not even a fuk up to begin with. Davos has no fukin allegiance to Dany, his loyalty was to Stannis before he went full crazy, then he stayed with Jon and the Northeners, so it makes sense that he sticks with them.

And Dany's little 7 ship fleet was not meant to hit King's Landing or something, it was supposed to reach Dragonstone and thats it. Why would you need a sailor like Davos for that?

wait is cersei's baby euron or jamies child? would be fuking hilarious if the baby is born with one fake hand and euron realizes he is not the father

Well, atleast the Golden Company looks cool.

I think they could do Euron some good by having Cersei give the Captain of the Golden Company another glance, Euron catching it ... then a few minutes later stabbing the Golden Boy kunt.

So just to spice this up a bit... what storyline or person are you most invested in?

Example-

I am mostly invested in jaimes storyline and hoping beyond hope that they keep him on the path of redemption. I’ll cry if he really is an *******

If sea turtles could breed with humans, you'd have a million kids by now....You Malibu surfin', turtle rapist son of a gun.

Probably not pregnant at all.

Do you guys think there is any significance to the Gendry scene last episode?

What did she mean when she said to tyrion 'he's not the only smart one?'

It would be a bit odd to just give Gendry that role without some type of purpose (unless it was to just write him out of the story i guess).

Just read the spoilers and I guess I'm OK with how it ends.

Gendry is an illiterate blacksmith who knows nothing about politics and almost as little about war. She raised him to 1) write him out of the story like you said 2) have a lord of Storm's End who has zero connections in his lands and is therefore completely loyal and dependent on her for his position.

Sure, Davos was also just a smuggler and illiterate, but he spent years in court serving under Stannis before he was raised up as Hand.

Not really significant besides giving Sansa another reason to suspect Daenerys. Gendry has no role and Storm's End is meaningless in the show. Making Gendry the lord of the Stormlands is odd. The dude grew up in Flea Bottom ffs. Lol

tormund became my fav character very quickly. i'm relatively satisfied with his overall arc so that's nice

Yeah this is what i gathered, it just didn't really have much relevance to anything other than to make the fans go 'Woo!!' at the screen because well... because he's Gendry and fans want good things for him.

To be honest, same with with the marriage proposal that also seems to be irrelevant content with literally no purpose.

I guess to me it just doesn't seem worth while filming these scenes and adding them in when there are so many other story lines which are open and could have been expanded on within this screen time.

Honestly it seems like they do things just for the sake of shocking people sometimes.

Danny said herself that she did it because hes a loser with no family or friends so now he will do anything she says cause she gave him that. Makes perfect sense.

You guys keep talking about how someone should die because they have no more significance in the show. Oh thromand is just going north? He should.have died in ep 3.

Why? Because he has no more significance in the show your watching? He going to the north to live his life. There's more to life than got. Let the guy go north and live his dreams.

lmao the should of died thing is ridiculous lol

realistically i think out of all of them aside from jon... tormund and edd should have lived. because they fought the wights at hardhome. they've got the experience.

edd no doubt would have lived if it weren't for useless sam ****in what the **** was he doin out there lol he has no combat experience at all. if anything he should have been in the crypts, last line of defense.



sam the white walker slayer fighting ^ lol

theon shouldn't have died imo

i feel like he would be the strongest. been through so much pain and torture that fighting is nothing to him.

It’s amazing how people still don’t understand what we mean by this.

Lmao roasteddddd

Yeah, there really isn't anything worth trying to spot because you'll just go through the cycle everyone else did in attempting to find a logical explanation when it was really the story itself dropping the ball.

JaxBrah also made a good point that Jaquen's smile at the end was that he intended for her to refuse, and one way to see that is simply how it's like a final, "are yousure?", with Arya at least recognizing that this wasn't her path. Or at least, that was until the showrunners wanted Arya's character arc to be having her cake and eating it, too.
I'm admittedly extremely biased on this one, but Jon Snow's story resonated with me on a personal level for a few reasons.

The most glaring is that I had an especially near death experience where I was in right on the brink and in a coma with my body shutting down, but brought out of it by EMS responders after my mum found me and called 911. While I didn't wake out of it with dramatic gasps for air or anything like that, I also only experienced complete blackness like Jon. That was after years of my cancer treatment's after effects taking their to toll, and recovering afterthatvery much felt like a chance to "fai again," as a Davos told Jon.

What really hit me though was that I had a far too similar "if there is a next time, don't bring me back," conversation (although this time not quite as calm as Jon, and not to a stranger). It's naturally not a very common connection to have with a fictional character, but it certainly has me sympathize with some of what Jon goes through or understand what might motivate some of his actions/thoughts.

Second to that is ever since I had cancer, I always felt in a way that would definitely be comparable to a bastard, unable to alter what outcome was, but nevertheless holding that against myself (which also kind of ties into Tyrion's line about all dwarves being bastards in their fathers' eyes).

Again, heavy personal bias there, but it's hard for me not to be invested in Jon's story. That said, other characters who I have grown to really appreciate are also Jaime, as well as The Hound due to both of them having such incredible shifts in their arcs as they grow as characters. Jaime in particular is such a conflicted, complex character whose motivations and actions create such a gripping story to follow.I wish they would explain Bran's role in all of this, but between everything no longer carrying deeper meaning and thisinterview with the actor himself, it seems clear that D&D had zero plan for him, and evidently they didn't even bother discussing this with the actor, either:

it's amazing how bitter you are all the time lol cheer up bruh

Whatever you say chief

miss this guy already

He was the first one to kill a Wight right in the middle of what all of you are calling the best parts of the series. Fat fuk Sam Tarly snuck up on a Wight and backstabbed it and nobody utters a word. A girl who has been living hard and learning from brutal killers and assassins who use magic sneaks up on the Night King and everybody loses their fukking minds.

The entire episode and the last few seasons were riddled with talk about everything being the will of the Lord of Light, about how the Lord of light keeps people alive against insurmountable odds and brings people back from the dead if they somehow manage to die and none of you connect that to the survival of some characters? Sam had clearly given up hope at more than a few stages of that fight and he still lived. There is an actual in world reason for it that was force fed to us through Melisandre, Beric and Jon and everybody looks right past it and goes to the writing.

The writing is rushed, a lot has obviously been trimmed from what they originally had that is losing a tonne of nuance but a lot of people here are missing story that IS being provided like the entire Lord of Light arc.

The Lord of Light won the battle of Winterfell by shaping everything that happened right up through the last few seasons. Brans role is clearly a major plot point in that he is the Lord of Light or something major. They aren't explaining it for a reason, that reason being that is probably a major plot point in the next episodes.

It was a white walker that Sam killed.

You are being dishonest as fuk with the bolded.

Lmfaoo he is wound up so tight....


“It’s amazing how people still don’t understand what we mean by this.”

Suuuurrrrreeee budddyy

You all get so tilted by criticism of your lords and saviors that you literally have to ignore answers that were posted by everyone dozens of pages ago. It’s hilarious to watch you guys try so hard.

In b4 Sam is really the Lord of Light.

D&D FTW!!!