Scary thing is too is this weird fuk isnt trolling

I mean it is all genetics at the very end. Blaming someone for being a homosexual or transsexual is like blaming someone for being born with any other genetic variance (Down's etc.)

So you think the fact I have two holes on my dick is trolling?

It is mental illness. The procedure/hormone therapy is seen as the treatment for it.

People born with hypospadias are twenty times more likely to have chromosome abnormalities. It's not mental you idiot, it's biology which doesn't fit into your narrow-minded binary view of gender. I identify as intersex, neither male nor female.

You completely missed the point. Congratulations. I am saying that there are known physiological causes of transgenderism sometimes. I am also making the claim that there are physiological causes that are as of yet unknown. You don't know what happened to that trans person or what they were born with. There could be some weird chit that happened during embryonic development. You guys want to classify it all as "mental illness", which it is, but only to dismiss it as somehow not real or worthy of acknowledging. In reality, mental illness IS physical in nature. It has to do with how the brain functions. It's quite likely that in the coming years, researchers will identify specific receptors active in the brain during development AFTER gonads develop that, if non functional in some way, can result in a "male" brain developing in a female body or vice versa. There is already some research on this. We do know that whatever differences exist between male and female brains, all male brains begin as what could be called female. Somehow, females are turned into men during development. So, it stands to reason that this process might fuk up and go wrong somehow, doesn't it?

How am I supposed to find data identifying the exact number of people who are trans or intersex and how much overlaps? I told you, there isn't much data on this. They know the prevalence of various conditions, and they can tell you the percent that identify as trans as a whole. There isn't a whole lot else. There are intersex people who are trans. Like I said, we need to actually agree on what exactly "trans" is before I can even validate what you are saying. If you make a distinction between people with DSD and trans entirely and say there is no overlap, then there can be no link. My idea of transgender was people who take gender reassignment surgery or hormones. Is this your idea of trans or not?

The brain activity and structure doesn't entirely match. It's a bit weird. People are still researching what brain abnormalities are unique to transgender people, but there are studies that say they have found clues.

You didn't answer my question. You didn't tell me how you define trans.

retard answer my question so i can answer your question

And.....? You can quantify which mix of those people have a physical condition and which have a "mental" condition? What the fuk is the point of any of that, there are obvious racial and ethnic qualities that arevisibleand people still feel others are inferior and/or different.Broad generalization for someone being so specific in the OP.

OK, so a lot of intersex people are trans since people with 46 XX who undergo some form of reassignment or hormones to become "male" phenotype or 46 XY DSD who then undergo reassignment to become female "phenotype" are trans by your definition. Grats.

My entire point is that when people bash on trans and say "it's all in your head" that neglects the fact that 1) for a lot of trans people it isn't. They actually might have one of the conditions mentioned previously, or 2) their brains might have actual physical abnormalities causing them to be that way. It's easy to dismiss it as a bunch of queers and perverts playing dressup, but that's ignoring the reality that there could be something that went wrong during embryonic development.

The irony of a mentally disordered FA/incel, virgin, ******* who has difficulty himself deciding what sex he is trying to school everyone else as to what is 'normal'.

Just LMFAO.

1) I'm male. I want to fuk women. I am biologically XY.
2) I never said it was normal. In fact, the purpose of my post is to illustrate some natural causes for it.
3) Fist yourself until your ass falls out, *******.
4) 17 x 6 is not 112 or 1112.

I never said that. Strawman.

The original purpose of my post was to illustrate that some trans people have known physiological conditions. I believe I have established this if we use your definition for trans.

My later posts went further and proposed that the remaining cases, if classified as "mental illness" had to be rooted ultimately in some sort of physiological abnormalities since the brain is a physical object. I told you research in that area is still developing, but shows promise.

And I have studied logic. My background is fuking math, and I have also taken a course that explored other types of logic, such as intuitionist logic.

Anything else that needs to be clarified, you condescending fuk?

Only a person with a mental illness would make a post that long and expect miscers to read it.

riveting stuff here, no such thing as mental problems only physical ones that manifest in the brain....

If kleinfelters means needing to cut off your own dink, how do you explain Coath Blaha being the ultimate alpha male and having more GFs than OP?

Then don't. The point is that maybe some of the people here who bash on trans people might maybe consider what it might be like to grow up with the conditions listed, and also to consider the possiblity that that list is not exhaustive and we do not understand entirely how the brain works. I hope people would consider that when they dismiss trans people as mentally ill, that doesn't negate the situation that there is something physically wrong with their brains or the rest of their body. By dismissing it, it allows you to say "they are all freaks and perverts" etc and to not take their condition seriously. Being transgender is a serious condition. It likely requires treatment, and in the future, there may be physiological as well as behavioral treatment to help transgender people live as an "appropriate" gender. Needless to say, this entire area of research is extremely politically charged.

I just want to remind everyone that there are conditions other than "male" or "female". Not everyone ends up entirely normal. Human development can fuk up. That is what I am explaining in the post. So far, the answers have been trying to split hairs about what trans means when afaik it is kind of a useless umbrella term, questioning my motives for the post, insulting me, or pretending I said something I didn't say. Please think before you type.

I mean it's pretty simple. If something is a mental problem, then it is, by definition, a problem with the brain if you accept the empirical evidence that we think using our brains. Somehow, this is shocking to a lot of people.Most Klinefelter's people remain male afaik. But lol'd and repped.

Intersex is a result of androgen insufficiency in the womb you ignoramus. Your entire concept of gender is based on a social construct in which everyone fits into your neat binary categories. It's clear your trying to emphasize your self-declared maleness with your profile picture, perhaps out of insecurity? It's people like you that led to many people being killed in the past over something they had no control over. I identify as intersex, which means I'm neither male nor female and I'm proud of it.

They don't get it. They are incapable of empathizing. I think the real reason is many of these idiots are religious, and to accept that developmental anomalies occur is to accept that God fuks up. And they can't have that because the bible only talked about males and females, and everything else is icky and must be put to death by the sword because Leviticus or some chit. Truth is that anyone who understands physics realizes that there can never be any type of perfect developmental process. There are bound to be errors. There HAVE TO BE errors. It's actually required by thermodynamics. And in fact, the errors are how our species came to be in the first place. But not according to them, I guess. It also fits their narrative to pretend we think with "souls" rather than our brains. Even though one could easily lobotomize the fuks to demonstrate easily that the thinking is controlled and influenced by the brain. Others are just indoctrinated into political cults and take their party's hard stance on w/e issue. Trans issues have become associated with "liberals" so these days, people who associate as "conservatives" must routinely mock and harass trans people, I guess.

Actually I wouldn't classify it as an error, I think people like me are perhaps the next stage of human evolution in the same way that aliens are portrayed as androgynous. The fact is that the strong masculine paradigm of hunter/gatherer is not necessary in the modern world.

lol

You can't be the next stage of human evolution if you can't or don't reproduce or outcompete the normal humans boyo (or girlo or whatevero). That's also why I am not Human 2.0, but am really Human -1.0. feelsbad

But you don't have to be. You can just be. Nobody chooses their existence. We just are. And even though your existence might gross me out due to some long standing evolutionary/cultural programming, you know what? I accept you for being whatever you are. As long as you don't hurt anybody, I don't see why you can't be treated fairly.

We don't know what the implications of intersex human beings is though since evolution is never complete, but the incidence of intersex is increasing exponentially so I feel like people like me exist for a reason.

Can post a link to important chart..

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It could be due to other things like more cultural acceptance, endocrine disruptions due to chemicals and chit, and other stuff though...

I don't know but one peculiar thing is that though I have a penis, it feels unnatural using it and as if I'm playing a role that's not me.

IDK what to tell you. lol I can't imagine what that is like. All I can say is good luck, and I hope people don't kill you over it one day.

Kill him over it? This is the United States. If he's a democrat he'll likely even be a shoe in for a Presidential candidate nominee.

Well I'm also an artist and I believe it's spurred my intersexual condition, because my personality possesses more feminine streaks than a stereotypical gender-binary brutish male.

Just tell your boyfriend that your penis is an extra large clitoris when he's sucking on it.

As a matter of fact, I think you and Wincel may have already found a love connection in the making.