So this was probably the best date I've been on so far, but there's a significant twist. Essay incoming.

Rewind a bit, within the first few dates, she had admitted to dating another guy shortly before she met me. This was after I set the exclusive sex boundary, which was fine. (in b4 she's lying), but she said she hadn't had sex with him, described him as "really nice" but not as good looking as me, and felt guilty because he seemed really into her, but she was having sex with me. Also said she was really confused. As you know, we met for a few weeks after that in the FWB type situation.

So tonight we met for dinner. Something seemed off with her, and I even mentioned it - she said nothing's wrong but turned out I was right. Afterwards she said she couldn't continue anymore, because this other guy is getting more serious and she feels terrible. I think she was relieved when I told her it's fine, and in my mind it was gonna end in a few weeks anyway when she went travelling for a couple of months.

So at this point you'd think, you just went home right? Well actually at this point we ended up talking for 3+ hours and it was the best conversation I've had since I started dating. We were both being so real with each other, because we had nothing to lose or hide now. In those few hours we learned more about each other than in all the dates combined x 10.

Some pretty interesting stuff came up, plus feedback. I guess first we agreed that we weren't compatible longer term. Then she said stuff like she was more detail oriented than I am, that I just seemed really chill and not to care much, and that's why she assumed I was a player. I laughed really hard, because as you all know - she couldn't be more wrong about me not being detail oriented, analytical and to think deeply about things. By the end of the conversation though, she was saying she judged me wrong.

She also gave me some feedback about making a girl feel special sometimes, along with specific examples - and I actually saw her point. That said, she kinda berated the guy she was seeing for being too clingy, too nice and giving her gifts etc. But at the same time she said she likes how it makes her feel special... I said, "do you like this guy?", and she made a iffy face gave this answer like "he's really nice, and our mutual friends think we should be together".

Think about that. She said he made her feel special constantly and was really nice, and I didn't, but she's more attracted to me and was fukking me. If I was to hazard a guess, I reckon they got intimate eventually though and then she knew she had breached my boundary, which is okay.

I will takeaway though that I'm in no danger of doingtoomuch beta stuff like that. I should really throw in some stuff to make a girl feel special a bit more often, but then again she wasn't my girlfriend... so this is for future reference for a girl I want long term.

And then she started saying how cute I was, and even went to kiss me again on the lips when she said goodbye? So trying to make sense of this, and based on what she said, she was much more physically attracted to me, but had more compatibility with him - said he was more aligned with Asian culture, had mutual friends etc. She kept bringing up Asian food and how I wasn't that into it and that would be a bad incompatibility long term, and I agreed lol

She even said that she was a bit intimidated long term about the looks thing, because she felt more pressured to dress up and stuff when meeting me. She said she lounges around at home and looks worse, and if she was with me she'd feel less secure about that.

Huh

so the thicc white-ish chick that flaked a few days ago ? wants me to come over tomorrow.

whens the wedding

In b4

good morning

Really? So you're one of those guys. I have never brought a guy around my son and won't until I'm in a serious dating situation/relationship.You're probably better looking and I can say definitely more jacked so no wonder she's more physically attracted to you. She sounds like a sloot and is using that poor guy. I feel bad for him.Happy Saturday! What's everyone up to today? It's so nice out here and I'm meeting a friend for lunch and we're going to go see the Pikachu moving.

Rotting this weekend bc new phone has not arrived and I do not have a phone right now lol. Might go hit up the mall later but that's about it. I forgot how to rot

no having sex with Chad today?

i was actually attempting to roast u but thanks for answering the question lol. i thought you guys stayed in the same city. fuk rotting is so boring. i have to get out

only reason i'm not doing fun stuff is bc no phone right now. usually when i go out i uber around downtown (fuk parking)

They will if they arn't interested and want to get back with him.
So many women with ex's they mentioned that blew me off and ended up back with them.

They talk about their ex at all without me asking (and I don't) then I tell them to let me know when they are over their ex and he is out of their lives.
Because guess what?
If she is bringing him up it's because he is on her mind and he is on her mind most likely because she is still in contact with him.

LOL!
you are the LAST person to be giving advice about dating or kids or any combination of the two on this forum.
Also where did I say "random women?"
I said women friends.
women I know.
Women my kids know and have known for yrs as they are part of my social circle.

reading comprehension 101.
ask your FWB about it, he probably took it as an elective last yr.

yeah.
that's what I said.
i'll have to only bang when they aren't around if I don't meet someone to date.
Or maybe i'll sneak a quickie out behind the shed while they are playing video games.

Tell her "no, you come here".
Then ignore if she doesn't comply.
that's how I do it with flaky women.

I don't go anywhere for a chick that flaked.
hell, I don't go to women's houses anymore generally.
They come to me or they don't get to see me.

I said women friends.
Women they have known for yrs as part of my circle of friends.
not strangers.


I got 15 gallons of beer to keg and 10 more to brew after I finish scrubbing out the keggorator and porch.
the kids will be painting.
though they are pre-teens so I don't expect a top notch paint job but it will make the second coat easier.

Some good advice but what will you say about a dude that doesn't have his own place?

yeah didn't think of that.
have had my own place since 24 or 25 I think.

I guess you gotta do what you gotta do then.

I have the body of a god.
My kids just told me I look like Thor with my shirt off!

new phone came in. earlier than expected. it may not be a rotting day for me after all (oh sht)

No you come on man, kinda ridiculous to think that sex is the only way to know if a girl is interested. So a girl who makes out with you isn't open to having sex with you? Makes no sense. If they do that then they're at least attracted to you and sex is a possibility. Every situation is different but you don't have to be balls deep before knowing if she's interested.

Re the bringing up guys thing, not exactly optimal however girls have done it for one reason or another. Maybe they didn't know any better..others are crazy and talk to everyone about everything. As long as she's receptive to sexual innuendos, its fair game. Also its not like I entertain it and discuss it at length, just in one ear out the other and trying to listen for clues. IME some girls do it some don't. Doesn't matter until she rejects/or accepts a sexual advance.

www.lenscrafters.com...jkfeels like I'm the only young brah ITT that looks forward to having kids for moments like these

Of course sex is the only way because no woman who doesn't like you is gonna have sex with you for free. Making out don't mean chit especially in clubs.

Anyway how many of these women have you had sex with after making out with them. Be honest.

jakes on you, I have two optometrists in the family. LOL!

but serious, always trying to push glasses on me cause i'm apparently the only one in the family who didn't go blind by 30.
i use 1.24 reading glasses to do detail work with my hobbies and my eyes go bonkers when I take them off.
can still see pretty good otherwise.

I kinda felt bad for him by the end lol. And she’s pretty new to the dating game, so ye I do think she was confused and ended up feeling guilty.I’m honestly not sure if it’s the whole stereotype thing or if she just liked him better than me overall. But she definitely saw me as casual, and kept describing him as really nice while thinking I was a jerk/player type, so ye...

And on the chill thing, ye if you recall I worked on that intentionally. I don’t want to come across as someone I’m not, though. It’s probably fine, the depth/analytical side of me will come out sometimes anyway.

Don’t get me wrong, I was more relaxed and fun. But she acted like it was some sort of incompatibility that I wasn’t more “detail oriented”, and she enjoyed more depth and less small talk.

So I was just wondering if that could make me lose someone in the future who I would be compatible with long term.

All that said, I don’t really buy what she says. I made her laugh, and she was clearly attracted to my persona.

Overall I think a mix of both is a healthy balance for me.