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post 1581138971 05-30-2019, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By MattyMiscer
Honestly it goes all the way back to Stannis burning Shireen. They had the perfect setup and then made Stannis and his wife, Selyse, both do complete 180s.

Up to that point we had seen that Selyse was a zealot and she disliked Shireen. Stannis always defended Shireen and was shown to be a loving father. We had the whole “because you are my daughter” scene when he explained how he brought in every maester he could to save her. I’m pretty sure he mentioned that she was his sole heir at some point.

The end result of that abortion of show writing was that Selyse was burned, much of the army deserted, and Selyse was hanged.

All they had to do was have Selyse burn Shireen behind Stannis’ back as a sacrifice. Stannis finds out and is horrified, so he has Selyse hanged. The army can still desert because they lose faith in the lord of light after seeing the sacrifice. It fits perfectly with the established character arcs.
Yeah but if they did that, people would claim misogyny or some chit.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Guess I'm a full blown redditor now because I'm loving this drama between Freefolk & r/gameofthrones, lmao.

The fanboys are so rustled that the lead actress is acknowledging the sub of alleged neckbeards.

Gonna go buy a Soylent to celebrate.
Haven't been keeping up with any of it. Can't stand gameofthrones though. asoiaf and freefolk are much better.
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Doesn't look like there's any actual war, more like the moderators of game of thrones let their ego get to them and deleted any threads related to the charity for people with brain damage, even their own subs are chitting on them, and rightly so, what a bunch of manchildren refusing to support people in need because they dislike another subreddit, Soy overload.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Guess I'm a full blown redditor now because I'm loving this drama between Freefolk & r/gameofthrones, lmao.

The fanboys are so rustled that the lead actress is acknowledging the sub of alleged neckbeards.

Gonna go buy a Soylent to celebrate.
Lol at the drama. I only know about freefolk because of this thread. Some funny chit on there.

Used to browse/occasionally post on the asoiaf forum (not the subreddit) though.
post 1581141101 05-30-2019, 06:39 PM
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Ouch. He fought that other one but you get the point.

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Originally Posted By aranadiscoteca
Cliff me on whats going on.

Also the difference between freefolk and gameofthrones
Here's your full cliffs:

-r/gameofthrones & r/asoiafcirclejerk have called r/Freefolk neckbeards for criticizing Season 8
-Since Freefolk are adults and not manchildren, they organized a fundraiser for Emilia Clarke's brain injury charity (she suffered 2 aneurysms herself while filming)
-Charity gets a little traction, fanboy subreddits talk chit
-Booms to over $70,000. Gets spread across internet
-Emilia Clarke sends personal video thanking Freefolk
-fanboy subreddits lose their chit, say they won't donate and delete any thread about it

Originally Posted By ohiostate124
It’s hilarious. It’s a full scale revolt at this point. They are even trying to get the mods removed.
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lmaoo this i am visiting frequently reddit only for this
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Haven't been keeping up with any of it. Can't stand gameofthrones though. asoiaf and freefolk are much better.
Originally Posted By MediocreGains
Lol at the drama. I only know about freefolk because of this thread. Some funny chit on there.

Used to browse/occasionally post on the asoiaf forum (not the subreddit) though.
Dudes it's the best thing ever, lmao.

And I got a nerdy confession, I made the top comment on the fundraiser thread.

And because I'm a sweet boy, I thanked Freefolk & the redditor who started everything and of course #mahqueen.
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post 1581143331 05-30-2019, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
Ouch. He fought that other one but you get the point.
There was one other fight in season 7. It was pretty fukking lame though.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Guess I'm a full blown redditor now because I'm loving this drama between Freefolk & r/gameofthrones, lmao.

The fanboys are so rustled that the lead actress is acknowledging the sub of alleged neckbeards.

Gonna go buy a Soylent to celebrate.
link to some rustling?
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Originally Posted By IronBrahh
link to some rustling?
There were some better ones but alot are getting deleted. Check out the image I posted above and:

https://np.reddit.com/r/asoiafcircle...on_to_reefolk/

https://removeddit.com/r/asoiafcircl...about_still_a/

Some freefolker even started a thread to remove the r/gameofthrones mods, lol
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post 1581146421 05-30-2019, 08:15 PM
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this reddit drama is more entertaining than S8
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Not to mention the fact that the actor who played the NK has insane sword fighting skills. I believe he did the actual fighting for Arthur Dayne during the ToJ fight.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124


Not to mention the fact that the actor who played the NK has insane sword fighting skills. I believe he did the actual fighting for Arthur Dayne during the ToJ fight.
Everyones saying Jon should've fought the NK, but that wouldn't make sense in my opinion. They made the NK too powerful

Think about it. The NK can crack the earth by touching the ground, he can fall hundreds of feet off a dragon and be unharmed, and on top of that he's immune to dragon fire. I mean, how the hell would a human being fight something like that? They'd get killed instantly

The best way they should've done it would be if Jon gets killed by the NK in a one sided fight. The NK pieces his heart with his ice sword which turns Jon into Azor Ahai. They fight again but this time Jon wins
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Originally Posted By theACEofSPADES
Everyones saying Jon should've fought the NK, but that wouldn't make sense in my opinion. They made the NK too powerful

Think about it. The NK can crack the earth by touching the ground, he can fall hundreds of feet off a dragon and be unharmed, and on top of that he's immune to dragon fire. I mean, how the hell would a human being fight something like that? They'd get killed instantly

The best way they should've done it would be if Jon gets killed by the NK in a one sided fight. The NK pieces his heart with his ice sword which turns Jon into Azor Ahai. They fight again but this time Jon wins
There should have been some sort of magical and symbolic resolution...or they could have just had the NK win.
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Originally Posted By wincel
There should have been some sort of magical and symbolic resolution...or they could have just had the NK win.
Basically this, which is what was being teased with Jon being resurrected as Azor Ahai and everything.

I believe the book prophecy is that Azor Ahai kills his loved one which grants his blade magical properties, which he can use to kill the Night King.

Considering he's had a sword fight with two of them, it made the most sense. Not deus ex arya.
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Is it true that HBO is coming out with a prequel to GoT?
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Originally Posted By manletstrength
Is it true that HBO is coming out with a prequel to GoT?
1 called Bloodmoon apparently started filming already. It's set during the Age of Heroes, thousands of years before GoT.

There's 4 others in the works, I'm guessing one or two might get canned though.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
1 called Bloodmoon apparently started filming already. It's set during the Age of Heroes, thousands of years before GoT.

There's 4 others in the works, I'm guessing one or two might get canned though.
Wow 1000 years before? Cant imagine that at all. Maybe itll tell how the NK and white walkers came to be.
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Originally Posted By manletstrength
Wow 1000 years before? Cant imagine that at all. Maybe itll tell how the NK and white walkers came to be.
Up to 10,000 years before Game of Thrones... So basically as far back as Jesus... five times over. But yes, it's when the first men and the children of the forest teamed up to fight the white walkers (the cave drawings Jon showed Dany)
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Originally Posted By .aeterna
this reddit drama is more entertaining than S8
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lol so freefolk made a new charity for kit harrington/his mental health and r/gameofthrones posted that one, but in the gameofthrones post they acted as if they were the ones who came up with the emilia clarke charity as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthron...s_a_community/
Let’s band together as a community once aganifor a great cause, and show Kit that his dedication had meaning and changed lives.We came together for Emilia nowlet’s stand behind Kit in solidarity. (justgiving.com)
just knowing the surface level information and knowing that freefolk 100% made the charity for emilia and gameofthrones was deleting threads about it makes this *******ry super apparent

the commenters are all calling it out too lol
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Originally Posted By manletstrength
Wow 1000 years before? Cant imagine that at all. Maybe itll tell how the NK and white walkers came to be.
yes we can expect more lore on the whitewalkers...we will also learn about the founding of house lannister and how lann the clever came to take over casterly rock...
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tfw when r'hlor played had zero influence in s8 and we never found out chit
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Originally Posted By IronBrahh
lol so freefolk made a new charity for kit harrington/his mental health and r/gameofthrones posted that one, but in the gameofthrones post they acted as if they were the ones who came up with the emilia clarke charity as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthron...s_a_community/



just knowing the surface level information and knowing that freefolk 100% made the charity for emilia and gameofthrones was deleting threads about it makes this *******ry super apparent

the commenters are all calling it out too lol
The comments are hilarious
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Exactly, they knew they wanted mad queen Dany and King Bran, but they were lightyears away from it and had only 6 episodes. Idk if they have contractual obligations to adhere to GRRM's proposed storyline, but if not I would have said fuk that and done a conclusion that's more in line with everyone's arc at the beginning of Season 8. Because just LOL @ Dany going from savior of the living to Satan in 2 episodes. Just lmao...
It's a tough call, but yeah, that would have been the right one. I've mentioned it prior, but given the trajectory Dany's arc was going, she had riskedeverythingto saveeveryone, regardless of banner, so it only seemed logical that she would continue along a path striving for the greater good, even if it meant a sacrifice on her part. For example:
- Accept ruling alongside Jon, Fire and Ice together, acting as checks towards one another's weaknesses and impulses.

- Realize that she was a stranger in a strange land, and Westeros was simply not her true home, returning back to Essos to continue the progress she made there. She spent the majority of her life in Essos, and was practically raised amongst the Dothraki, and sheseemedto get them off their knack for raping, while making headway towards completely eliminating slavery in Essos. Without her there and Daario in charge, how long before all of her progress goes out the window? All it would take is a bit of light bribery to turn Daario after Dany abandoned him.

-Truly"Break the wheel," establishing independent Kingdoms across Westeros with King's Landing acting more like a mediator rather than a higher authority. Another compromise where Dany realizes her analogy was flawed and naive, for so long as there is a central power acting as the spoke, the wheel will always turn.

So on and so forth' they were trying to fit an entire seasonminimumworth of development into, what, an episode? If they had to go with Dany growing violent, they needed to sow those seeds a hell of a lot earlier, like in season 6 at least. Judging by what Emilia Clarke said about going over her old notes again after learning Dany's turn, that really is on them for not being more explicit with the direction of her character and arc early on.

Dany's bloodrider speech should have been alarming, not backed with inspirational music, her part in the loot train attack should have been horrifying, but in particular, we could have seen more hints during her rule of Meereen. Once she executed the former slave for killing a prisoner before his trial, they should have shown far more civil unrest as the common people who praised Dany turned upon her, followed by her slowly growing almost disdainful and enacting harsher rules all around. So much of Dany's arc in Essos involves overcoming people who are frankly complete kunts, so her actions are damn near impossible to argue against - especially when there isn't even a spec of nuance to the situations.

If theyhadto make this turn within an absurdly short final season, then they should have made Dany's situation far more desperate. The Battle for Winterfell should have beencrippling- for everyone fighting - and the attack on King's Landing should have been hopeless without her unleashing her dragons' full potential. And yes dragons, because Rhaegal should have been killed during the attack instead of getting no-scoped by boats. Likewise, the civilians should have been actively fighting for their lives, giving Dany a reason to see them as a threat, creating at leastsomeshades of grey to the whole scenario.

Personally, I like the idea you mentioned about Jon having to sacrifice Dany in order to fulfill the Azor Ahai prophecy as the only means to defeat the Night King. It was just far too anticlimactic hopping from the existential threat introduced during the prologue to Cersei, to Dany, and then to Grey Worm looking kind of grumpy.
Bronn, Tyrion, & Jon are more examples of wasted time in this season and the abandonment of one of GoT's trademarks which is persistent danger and consequence. Dany was really the only admired-character sacrifice D&D were willing to make. Everyone else gets their happy ending. And what's worse, they all survive impossible odds en route to those endings.

Just lol @ murdering a beloved monarch and suffering absolutely no consequences.
They also missed a lot of interesting repercussions and fallout, or Jon being involvedwhatsoeverin his "trial"-turn-Bran election.

Jon is the only other main character who I felt kind of got a raw deal (basically a bittersweet ending versus a happy one) specifically in the sense that he was treated by everyone else as a pawn, resulting in them all getting rewarded for his sacrifice.

First Arya and Sansa corner Jon with a, "we need to talk about your girlfriend," Arya guilt trips him with "we're family, we have to stick together," then Sansa breaks her oath to keep his secret. What happens after Jon kills the second woman he loves?

Arya immediately abandons him to fukk off to East Essos, and Sansa becomesQueen of the bloody North, basically living Littlefinger's suggestion that she rule instead of Jon. Sansa the oathbreaker gets to be Queen over a people who take oaths pretty damn seriously in a world that alreadytakes them dead serious. Considering how breaking said oath was another factor in Dany's mad turn to burn King's Landing, something Dany even said in effect, Sansa should be looking at a chopping block rather than a new gown.

Tyrion was the one who conspired and convinced Jon to commit regicide after already abandoning his position as Hand to the Queen, but what is his punishment for treason? A lofty position that he has admitted to enjoying.

Grey Worm having as much influence as he did felt out of place after taking part in the sacking of a city already undergoing a dragon apocalypse. Him keeping Jon a live should have been less an out of place plot contrivance and more of a necessity because they were still leaderless (the Unsullied are not used to freewill by a long shot) and cut off from any further aid or supplies.

But considering how he fukks off to die to Butterfly Fever, anyway, Bran manages to seem like even more of a prick for not at least pardoning Jon likeKing Robert did to Jaime, especially given the similar circumstances.

After all that, Jon going North should practically have been him storming off while flipping them all the bird.

Originally Posted By MattyMiscer
Honestly it goes all the way back to Stannis burning Shireen. They had the perfect setup and then made Stannis and his wife, Selyse, both do complete 180s.

Up to that point we had seen that Selyse was a zealot and she disliked Shireen. Stannis always defended Shireen and was shown to be a loving father. We had the whole “because you are my daughter” scene when he explained how he brought in every maester he could to save her. I’m pretty sure he mentioned that she was his sole heir at some point.

The end result of that abortion of show writing was that Selyse was burned, much of the army deserted, and Selyse was hanged.

All they had to do was have Selyse burn Shireen behind Stannis’ back as a sacrifice. Stannis finds out and is horrified, so he has Selyse hanged. The army can still desert because they lose faith in the lord of light after seeing the sacrifice. It fits perfectly with the established character arcs.
D&D didn't like nor understand Stannis, so they wrote him off as quickly and sloppily as humanly possible.

[QUOTE=Book Stannis[/quote]“A sacrifice will prove our faith still burns true, Sire,” Clayton Suggs had told the king. And Godry the Giantslayer said, “The old gods of the north have sent this storm upon us. Only R’hllor can end it. We must give him an unbeliever.”

“Half my army is made up of unbelievers,” Stannis had replied. “I will have no burnings. Pray harder.”[/QUOTE]D&D: Have Stannis burn his only daughter because it's a bit nippy.

Then they piss on all of that further by having "twenty good men" somehow wreck havoc on the entirety of Stannis' camp/supplies.
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Finally freefolk gets the credit.

tfw Emilia Clarke most likely read my comment.

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=If theyhadto make this turn within an absurdly short final season, then they should have made Dany's situation far more desperate. The Battle for Winterfell should have beencrippling- for everyone fighting - and the attack on King's Landing should have been hopeless without her unleashing her dragons' full potential. And yes dragons, because Rhaegal should have been killed during the attack instead of getting no-scoped by boats. Likewise, the civilians should have been actively fighting for their lives, giving Dany a reason to see them as a threat, creating at leastsomeshades of grey to the whole scenario.

Personally, I like the idea you mentioned about Jon having to sacrifice Dany in order to fulfill the Azor Ahai prophecy as the only means to defeat the Night King. It was just far too anticlimactic hopping from the existential threat introduced during the prologue to Cersei, to Dany, and then to Grey Worm looking kind of grumpy.
They also missed a lot of interesting repercussions and fallout, or Jon being involvedwhatsoeverin his "trial"-turn-Bran election.
Yeah IMO they should have done a custom storyline but it's been brought up that they were waiting and waiting on GRRM to flesh it out more and he never did. I think the better decision would have been to diverge from the book plan and conclude in a more logical way, even if antithetical to George's plot, because his plot would've taken far more time to develop.
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post 1581197291 05-31-2019, 02:39 PM
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r/freefolk is gold



post 1581198441 05-31-2019, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
gameofthrones = soy and teen girls talking about GoT and asking dumb questions about show+nazi mods

freefolk = alpha subreddit of lulzy memes that doesn't take itself too srsly
I don't normally find myself in agreement but that's about right. Freefolk will make funny memes, and thieves glom them and post them to the other subs without credit often, too.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

- Arthur Schopenhauer
post 1581198561 05-31-2019, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
r/freefolk is gold



Lmao
post 1581203501 05-31-2019, 04:43 PM
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lold hard at this freefolk post

post 1581212811 05-31-2019, 07:53 PM
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Emilia Clarke is pretty and all but her eyebrows are too weird and animated and kinda turn me off for some reason.

srs
Look, i know i don't really know you and all, and i know you probably hear this like everyday, but your just so perfect to me. The few hours we talked were really great even if the convo was stale, your really pretty and chill, and your country thats just perfect :'D i really dont know how to explain it, but i think i have feelings for you somehow. i never felt like this with someone i just met, but i felt the need to get it off my chest. sorry for being all weird just idk how to explain it D:
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