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speaking as a former LE officer...black men have it rough with cops. Granted, some don't do themselves any favors by being mouthy and cocky with cops...but that doesn't justify the way they are treated.

advice to young black men...when pulled over, immediately roll all your windows down, turn the car off, place keys and wallet on the dash. KEEP HANDS VISIBLE AT ALL TIMES...there are some white trash cops looking to shoot your a$$...so don't give them any reason to do so. if you were profiled and feel you were wronged, solve that **** in the courts. nothing you can do from the grave.
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Originally Posted By low_clazz
speaking as a former LE officer...black men have it rough with cops. Granted, some don't do themselves any favors by being mouthy and cocky with cops...but that doesn't justify the way they are treated.

advice to young black men...when pulled over, immediately roll all your windows down, turn the car off, place keys and wallet on the dash. KEEP HANDS VISIBLE AT ALL TIMES...there are some white trash cops looking to shoot your a$$...so don't give them any reason to do so. if you were profiled and feel you were wronged, solve that **** in the courts. nothing you can do from the grave.
The entire point of this racist thread was to explain how black people cannot do this to white cops because if they do, they will be succumbing.
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Originally Posted By Tears
The entire point of this racist thread was to explain how black people cannot do this to white cops because if they do, they will be succumbing.
LOLz, i only read the OP post...my bad
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Originally Posted By Tears
The entire point of this racist thread was to explain how black people cannot do this to white cops because if they do, they will be succumbing.
What are you even talking about, limpdick?
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Originally Posted By LeJR
Wow is that balxk privilege or what. Commit more crimes but get convicted of less. Just let them back on the streets.
I asked about the stats so we could see. Dude never got back to me with a source. Go figure.
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Originally Posted By wincel
If you're scared to stand up for your freedom, then it can and will be stolen from you, bro.
I mean I don't know how anyone can see all the videos out there and not think that there is at least a little bit of a police state-ish atmosphere. Maybe not full blown police state, but seems closer to it here in the USA than other places.

As for racial profiling, i don't know if it's that, or economic profiling or a combination of both, but obviously there is an issue with the fact we have way more people in prison than any other country in the world, like per capita it's out of control high, and it's always people from poor neighborhoods getting tossed in prison, a lot of them for such petty crimes like small amounts of weed or some sh*t. I know others will say "well, they broke the law..."but seriously, if cops cracked down on colleges as much as certain neighborhoods, you would have 30% of the US college students serving years in prison because pot is everywhere on campuses. So essentially you have a certain group being targeted for a crime that a lot of others get away with, without a care in the world.

That said, you have a lot of people (me included) who don't feel like their freedoms are being targeted. You're going to have a hard time convincing people they need to revolt against the police when a good majority of the people aren't a part of the target group and feel like they are indeed being protected. And maybe they are being protected. Even black people make jokes about fearing being around group of ghetto youths. Unfortunate as it is they grew up severely disadvantaged which increases the risk of resorting to crime, and hence continuing a cycle, but doubt you will get enough people to champion this fight when they are sitting on the safe side. I see that there are issues that need correcting, but hard to care when i'm not affected and i feel exhausted enough with just the daily grind of life.

Admire your passion though Wincel, good luck.
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There are plenty of black criminals, hoodlums, etc. There are also plenty of good cops. Majority are good people in fact. That said it is mind boggling to me how anyone can claim there isn't a problem with police violence in this country. The vids in this thread are far from the worst out there.

Bottom line is this: I'm a white guy and if I had a choice I would choose a 1000 times between being ethnic/minority or a white dude in the US of A, I would choose being white every single time. If you'd rather be a minority you might just be retarded (srs).
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Originally Posted By Contribution05
I mean I don't know how anyone can see all the videos out there and not think that there is at least a little bit of a police state-ish atmosphere. Maybe not full blown police state, but seems closer to it here in the USA than other places.

As for racial profiling, i don't know if it's that, or economic profiling or a combination of both, but obviously there is an issue with the fact we have way more people in prison than any other country in the world, like per capita it's out of control high, and it's always people from poor neighborhoods getting tossed in prison, a lot of them for such petty crimes like small amounts of weed or some sh*t. I know others will say "well, they broke the law..."but seriously, if cops cracked down on colleges as much as certain neighborhoods, you would have 30% of the US college students serving years in prison because pot is everywhere on campuses. So essentially you have a certain group being targeted for a crime that a lot of others get away with, without a care in the world.

That said, you have a lot of people (me included) who don't feel like their freedoms are being targeted. You're going to have a hard time convincing people they need to revolt against the police when a good majority of the people aren't a part of the target group and feel like they are indeed being protected. And maybe they are being protected. Even black people make jokes about fearing being around group of ghetto youths. Unfortunate as it is they grew up severely disadvantaged which increases the risk of resorting to crime, and hence continuing a cycle, but doubt you will get enough people to champion this fight when they are sitting on the safe side. I see that there are issues that need correcting, but hard to care when i'm not affected and i feel exhausted enough with just the daily grind of life.

Admire your passion though Wincel, good luck.
yea u are right that most people will feel safer. That's always the question. How much freedom do we trade for security? On one end, with high freedom, you have anarchy and no security. On the other end, you have a police state with high security and no freedom. I think it is good to favor freedom a little by balancing the power of police. I'll keep arguing the case even if people say it is leftist etc. I don't want to see American civil liberties eroded away. It's scary to me reading how fast govts collapse. It can happen anywhere. Even here.
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Originally Posted By wincel
yea u are right that most people will feel safer. That's always the question. How much freedom do we trade for security? On one end, with high freedom, you have anarchy and no security. On the other end, you have a police state with high security and no freedom. I think it is good to favor freedom a little by balancing the power of police. I'll keep arguing the case even if people say it is leftist etc. I don't want to see American civil liberties eroded away. It's scary to me reading how fast govts collapse. It can happen anywhere. Even here.
That question has been answered already boyo. We have continuously chosen security over freedom. Police state is just a small portion of it. They've been recording every form of communication for decades now, but it became totally legitimized after the patriot act. The NSA can literally pull any text or email you've ever sent in your entire life in a matter of minutes.

Here's the real question: are you going to give up the delusional fantasy that we have any sort of privacy and freedom left or do you choose to still believe in fairytales?
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TBH, the minute an officer yells "gun", I'm not putting my hands anywhere but in the air, lawful order or not. I support the police, volunteered as a reserve, have many leo friends, etc, but I won't leave my family to fend for themselves over a misunderstanding. I'll hedge my risks and take the arrest.
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc
That question has been answered already boyo. We have continuously chosen security over freedom. Police state is just a small portion of it. They've been recording every form of communication for decades now, but it became totally legitimized after the patriot act. The NSA can literally pull any text or email you've ever sent in your entire life in a matter of minutes.

Here's the real question: are you going to give up the delusional fantasy that we have any sort of privacy and freedom left or do you choose to still believe in fairytales?
I'm going to keep fighting the good fight, and so should you. We can use our words to spread awareness and we can vocally argue against the removal of freedom. We can vote against it too. Anything they change can eventually be changed back.
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when u meet a cop... you have like 1-5 seconds to develop a bond... that will decide whether u get a ticket or not... sometimes theres a racial bond... sometimes the cop already feels bad cause ur driving a pos... sometimes your appearance throws them off... AKA a halo effect... dumb clumsy pretty woman... etc
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Cop issue has nothing to do with black vs white. Cops in general are out of control in some cases and are never checked properly. Some are amazing and try and deescalate situations... others are HORRIBLE
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Originally Posted By wincel
I'm going to keep fighting the good fight, and so should you. We can use our words to spread awareness and we can vocally argue against the removal of freedom. We can vote against it too. Anything they change can eventually be changed back.
Loled.

Instead of wasting your time with ghey retarded chit like fighting the good fight you should focus on a career and getting pussy. You cannot fix humanity, it is in our nature to find ways to control and enslave each other. This is just the latest form of it. Accept reality and move on. Only then can you be free you enjoy your life instead of living in misery (srs).
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Originally Posted By Adam16121
TBH, the minute an officer yells "gun", I'm not putting my hands anywhere but in the air, lawful order or not. I support the police, volunteered as a reserve, have many leo friends, etc, but I won't leave my family to fend for themselves over a misunderstanding. I'll hedge my risks and take the arrest.
Actually raising your hands quickly is a bad idea. If they think you have a gun, that movement could be misinterpreted as you raising the gun to take a shot.
Freeze and SLOWLY raise your hands when ordered.
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Originally Posted By wincel
I'm going to keep fighting the good fight, and so should you. We can use our words to spread awareness and we can vocally argue against the removal of freedom. We can vote against it too. Anything they change can eventually be changed back.
Lol you’re spreading nothing but sh!t; a human manure spreader.

Ya know what’s more racist than your cute stories about bad cops and minorities? Continuing to disable the minds of minority groups and tricking them into thinking they are victims of an awful system rather than empowering them. So keep telling them they are oppressed and a big, bad machine is doing it. A machine no one can stop...that’s what will forever keep them down.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Lol you’re spreading nothing but sh!t; a human manure spreader.

Ya know what’s more racist than your cute stories about bad cops and minorities? Continuing to disable the minds of minority groups and tricking them into thinking they are victims of an awful system rather than empowering them. So keep telling them they are oppressed and a big, bad machine is doing it. A machine no one can stop...that’s what will forever keep them down.
People can stop the machine. And it will be stopped. One way or another. You can rest assured that it will be stopped.
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Originally Posted By wincel
People can stop the machine. And it will be stopped. One way or another. You can rest assured that it will be stopped.
Then how about you stop your racist sh!t and stop treating them like they are little, helpless beings that need people like you to fight for them? Allow them to see what is in their way, real issues, then adapt accordingly.

You’re far more a part of the problem than you’ll ever be a solution.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Then how about you stop your racist sh!t and stop treating them like they are little, helpless beings that need people like you to fight for them? Allow them to see what is in their way, real issues, then adapt accordingly.

You’re far more a part of the problem than you’ll ever be a solution.
Nothing racist about what I said at all ITT. In fact, I argued against racism and stereotyping, and actually showed people why it is wrong. I will voice my opinion against any threat to civil liberty I see. If you don't like my opinion, feel free to argue against it.
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I'd say the officer is in the wrong here. He went from 0-60 in a few seconds with his weapon drawn and pointed at the guy.
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Originally Posted By Adam16121
TBH, the minute an officer yells "gun", I'm not putting my hands anywhere but in the air, lawful order or not. I support the police, volunteered as a reserve, have many leo friends, etc, but I won't leave my family to fend for themselves over a misunderstanding. I'll hedge my risks and take the arrest.
LOL THIS. If a cop pulls a gun on me (and they have) I'm doing everything they ask me to. My pride is not worth dying over some stupid ****.

Wincel making this thread and arguing for the dude in the car is cringe as ****, regardless of his race. AND he is racist because he only gives a **** because he's black.
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Originally Posted By Burgerbuger
I'd say the officer is in the wrong here. He went from 0-60 in a few seconds with his weapon drawn and pointed at the guy.
funny how the older miscers who remember when America was free seem to agree while all the manlets and millennial soycucks get triggered and cry
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Originally Posted By wincel
Nothing racist about what I said at all ITT. In fact, I argued against racism and stereotyping, and actually showed people why it is wrong. I will voice my opinion against any threat to civil liberty I see. If you don't like my opinion, feel free to argue against it.
And that is a main issue you’ll always have, you can’t even see you’re being racist by holding them back.

My niece is biracial and when she was young, kids at her school called her the n-word. What did we do? It was addresses with the school and then we explained to her that there are sh!tty people that are taught sh!tty things by their parents and other people and that will never go away. Then we talked to her about the importance of working hard and getting good grades and being a good person. Tomorrow she graduates from high school with a 4.0 and she will be starting her college career that she received a full academic scholarship to attend at a very good, private school.

Should we have furthered her dismay and held her back by allowing her to believe she is a victim or empower her to kick the ass of those losers by crushing it in school and she will go on to do great things?
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Tomorrow she graduates from high school with a 4.0 and she will be starting her college career that she received a full academic scholarship to attend at a very good, private school.

Should we have furthered her dismay and held her back by allowing her to believe she is a victim or empower her to kick the ass of those losers by crushing it in school and she will go on to do great things?
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
LOL THIS. If a cop pulls a gun on me (and they have) I'm doing everything they ask me to. My pride is not worth dying over some stupid ****.

Wincel making this thread and arguing for the dude in the car is cringe as ****, regardless of his race.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
And that is a main issue you’ll always have, you can’t even see you’re being racist by holding them back.

My niece is biracial and when she was young, kids at her school called her the n-word. What did we do? It was addresses with the school and then we explained to her that there are sh!tty people that are talk sh!tty things by their parents and other people and that will never go away. Then we talked to her about the importance of working hard and getting good grades and being a good person. Tomorrow she graduates from high school with a 4.0 and she will be starting her college career that she received a full academic scholarship to attend at a very good, private school.

Should we have furthered her dismay and held her back by allowing her to believe she is a victim or empower her to kick the ass of those losers by crushing it in school and she will go on to do great things?
Cute story. Completely irrelevant to my point of balances on police power. You are arguing in defense of the expansion of state powers. I am arguing in favor of freedom.

The power of police must be balanced against the freedom of individuals. Poice must be held accountable for their orders. If they would lead to death with scienter, this should be viewed as attempted murder.
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Why is it so difficult to understand that some (most) cops are good, some are bad. They are human.

I treat every incident on a case-by-case basis. Just lol at low IQ picking a side and sticking with it.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Why is it so difficult to understand that some (most) cops are good, some are bad. They are human.

I treat every incident on a case-by-case basis. Just lol at low IQ picking a side and sticking with it.
Whether they are good or not (they are mostly neutral) is irrelevant. The entire point of my argument itt is that their power must be checked so that abuses do not occur.
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