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post 1581424671 06-04-2019, 11:47 AM
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17 year old has legal assisted suicide for PTSD

https://www.foxnews.com/world/dutch-...tim-euthanasia

This is where all the anti-life, pro-abortion culture ultimately heads. This girl needed some counseling and ends up getting the green light (even from her family) to kill herself.
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I'm not sure I'd live with that either.
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Some trauma takes longer than 3 year to overcome.

Doctor done goofed allowing this. If it was 30 years after the incident, and the individual was STILL constantly facing soul sucking depression...sure, but 3 years?
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If you support the death penalty you shut up your face right now.
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"Needed some counseling" lol you think they didn't try that first?

I think suicide is a good choice for some people who are extremelly fukked up, especially at old age (alcoholic, disabled, no one loves you? why keep being a burden to the world). I'd do it also if for example I needed $20k a month just to pay medical bills... rather leave the money for my family

But on the other hand I can't believe there wasn't any other way to treat this young girl, like just give her a ton of MDMA and heroin, or put her in a hippy commune where no one will be sexually aggressive
post 1581425261 06-04-2019, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
If you support the death penalty you shut up your face right now.
yep these two things totally correlate
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post 1581425371 06-04-2019, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
Sick outcome. Sick family. Sick dudes who rape. Sick society. WTF is wrong with people?
This sums it up pretty well

If everyone who's been raped offed themselves, then our planets population would be cut in half......
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post 1581425441 06-04-2019, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Some trauma takes longer than 3 year to overcome.

Doctor done goofed allowing this. If it was 30 years after the incident, and the individual was STILL constantly facing soul sucking depression...sure, but 3 years?
You trynna subject someone to 30 years of mental anguish and suffering because maybe they could have eventually overcame their issues?

The whole point of euthanasia is to humanely end suffering, seems like that's exactly what happened here. Next step is to close the loop by inhumanely ending the people who molested her.
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Originally Posted By Brandon556211⏩
yep these two things totally correlate
Just like suicide and abortion...
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Originally Posted By feijaozao⏩
"Needed some counseling" lol you think they didn't try that first?
Is there any reports she did or are you just guessing?

Suicide should not even be an option. Not only was she in a poor mental state, she didn't even have a fully developed brain at 17.

Just lol @ state assisted suicide being allowed, while randoms are charged if they encourage someone to kill themselves.
Just lol @ the mother failing to protect her and supporting her own daughter committing suicide
Just lol @ the fact the child rapists ended up better off than her

Degeneracy of the highest order. I expect more of these cases for the poor kids who were assaulted by the influx of refugees. What an absolute failure of government.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Some trauma takes longer than 3 year to overcome.

Doctor done goofed allowing this. If it was 30 years after the incident, and the individual was STILL constantly facing soul sucking depression...sure, but 3 years?
This ×100000, and especially at such a young age when hormones/social settings/school/etc all contribute to making life seem more tumultuous than it really is. Jesus, at least give it a few years of actual adulthood before you/your family decide offing yourself is the only plausible option...
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
You trynna subject someone to 30 years of mental anguish and suffering because maybe they could have eventually overcame their issues?

The whole point of euthanasia is to humanely end suffering, seems like that's exactly what happened here. Next step is to close the loop by inhumanely ending the people who molested her.
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She would have killed herself anyway. Even if the doc didn’t okay it.

Suicide is illegal and perpetrators should be shot.
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Rape and molestation have to be one of the worst kinds of personal intrusion however condoning and aiding in someones suicide is tragic and disgusting. It's sickening to think people think that's ok.
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You shouldn't kill yourself, but I absolutely support the freedom that allows you to choose to be alive or not.

Regardless of my personal preference and my feelings aside, I do not think the government should be able to tell you that you can't die.

EDIT: did not read the full situation, and it's mad fukked up. She probably needed WAY better counselling and I do believe that her brain wasn't fully developed.

But I'm almost certain she'd have done it anyway. However, suicide is a super hard to discuss issue because there are a ton of people who fail and are left so much better off for it mentally. There are some people who fail and try again.

The human mind is a wonderful, terrible thing.

Sometimes people are not strong enough to move past tragedy, and other times their mental hardware does not allow them to.

It's not always about strength.

It's not always about the hardware.

But I still maintain that the government should interfere with our lives as little as possible, and should not regulate your ability to decide to live.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
She would have killed herself anyway. Even if the doc didn’t okay it.

Suicide is illegal and perpetrators should be shot.
She had already been hospitalized earlier when her PTSD-induced anorexia was causing her organs to fail. After that she was put into a medically-induced coma and fed intravenously


People in here are acting like Holland is euthanizing people willy nilly. Be real guys, they're following strict criteria for this chit, and I'm not going to argue another person's case when they, a doctor, and their family have all agreed that the person is dealing with unbearable suffering and there's no resolution in sight
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honestly I'm alright with assisted suicide.

If after a proper vetting process, and therapy has been exhausted, I see no reason why we should be against someone eliminating themselves from the gene pool/population. I get it's a very selfish thing to do, but would it not be selfish to force someone to live with their unhappiness and/or trauma?
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
She had already been hospitalized earlier when her PTSD-induced anorexia was causing her organs to fail. After that she was put into a medically-induced coma and fed intravenously


People in here are acting like Holland is euthanizing people willy nilly. Be real guys, they're following strict criteria for this chit, and I'm not going to argue another person's case when they, a doctor, and their family have all agreed that the person is dealing with unbearable suffering and there's no resolution in sight
Of course, but providing the legitimate option could just make a young suffering mind be more accepting of suicide. As soon as you consider suicide as an option you're going to be consumed by it, at least in my own experience and observations this was the case.

People have varying degrees of mental resistance. Why is it that she couldn't cope, but other children who have suffered far worse can? Being hospitalized once for PTSD isn't exactly telling. I'd like to know what actual efforts her family, herself, and her physicians made to help her before landing on the last resort.
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She should have become homicidal not suicidal.

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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
You trynna subject someone to 30 years of mental anguish and suffering because maybe they could have eventually overcame their issues?

The whole point of euthanasia is to humanely end suffering, seems like that's exactly what happened here.Next step is to close the loop by inhumanely ending the people who molested her.
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Well unfortunately even humane capital punishment is outlawed in the Netherlands because it was considered "cruel and rude".

So we'll have to cross our fingers that some enterprising inmate does the job illegally, I guess...
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
She had already been hospitalized earlier when her PTSD-induced anorexia was causing her organs to fail. After that she was put into a medically-induced coma and fed intravenously


People in here are acting like Holland is euthanizing people willy nilly. Be real guys, they're following strict criteria for this chit, and I'm not going to argue another person's case when they, a doctor, and their family have all agreed that the person is dealing with unbearable suffering and there's no resolution in sight
If we're using mental illness as a justification for terminating life, then I guess we should just solve the homeless problem in most cities this same way? Come on.

There are lots of people who have experienced insanely difficult things early in life and had wildly successful, positive stories. If we're using PTSD as criteria for being incurable, then what, half the people who ever see live combat are just doomed too?

At 17 there's legitimately a high percentage of people who consider suicide after breakups with their boyfriend. Not minimizing her situation. I'm just saying nobody at that age can accurately analyze or control their emotions.
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Originally Posted By Pozy⏩
Here come the negs. I am fine with abortion and suicide. However, I hope she tried counseling first. If not I agree that it was not handled correctly.
She probably had it every week for five years. Poor girl. Fuking idiot miscers as usual. Can't even begin to imagine the torment she felt. Letting her end it like that is a mercy. Better than jumping off a building and ruining the live's of whoever happens to be in that proximity.

Why are you all so keen for her to carry on living in hell or is it because you're all religious and you can't tamper with "God's plan"?
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
If we're using mental illness as a justification for terminating life, then I guess we should just solve the homeless problem in most cities this same way? Come on.

There are lots of people who have experienced insanely difficult things early in life and had wildly successful, positive stories. If we're using PTSD as criteria for being incurable, then what, half the people who ever see live combat are just doomed too?

At 17 there's legitimately a high percentage of people who consider suicide after breakups with their boyfriend. Not minimizing her situation. I'm just saying nobody at that age can accurately analyze or control their emotions.
This is a false equivalence.

You're an idiot for thinking that the desire to live does not transcend your living conditions.

She did not want to live. Being homeless and not wanting to live are not the same thing.

How much interference in your life should the government have, if you don't mind me asking?
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