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Thread: Apple's new $5k monitor doesn't come with a stand. Optional $999 extra

post 1581427101 06-04-2019, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By letshavebabies⏩
apple is dead. chinese companies are innovating better products and this is the trash that it comes up with
You don't get it.

People buy Apple products for the display of social status, not performance.
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Dawg are you srs? Do you really think that Apple found some groundbreaking technology that can offer the same or better performance that Sony's 40k screen and they'd sell it for 5k? It's Apple that we're talking about not some Chinese Huawei. They'd sell it for 80k if they could.
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Dawg are you srs? Do you really think that Apple found some groundbreaking technology that can offer the same or better performance that Sony's 40k screen and they'd sell it for 5k? It's Apple that we're talking about not some Chinese Huawei. They'd sell it for 80k if they could.
Groundbreaking new technology? nope just improving upon existing technology, as per usual with apple. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, they've done it plenty of times before
Spoiler!
and they've failed plenty of times before. This stand being an example.


-original iphone, pretty overpriced but groundbreaking and better than any competition at the time regardless of pricepoint
-apple watch. lol at the competition. they don't charge thousands of dollars for it even though it leaves the competition in the dumpster
-faceid, still nothing on android that competes. no radical new technology, just improving something that already exists.

All I'm saying is it's probably going to be the best monitor for 5k, competing with monitors in a higher price point. Pretty simple

List a single monitor with better specs than this monitor for cheaper. Protip, you can't.

So, going back to my original point
It's competing against the $4,000-40,000 monitors so it willcome down to performance to see where it falls for value in that range
It will probably beat out other $4k monitors. It might beat out other even more expensive monitors. But you're stupid if you say the specs aren't impressive.

Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
You're fuking retarded lmao. You're comparing contrast ratio and brightness and that is it. Just lmao.

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oh so you're going to backtrack on the dell monitor comparison then? You said this monitor will compare against dells 8k monitor. I compared the two. Apple's is ASTRONOMICALLY better on paper. I listed 2 specs but it wins on every metric outside of resolution. So against monitors at a similar price point at you suggested, the apple monitor wins. Simple as that but that's beyond your comprehension apparently. Apple says this monitor competes against 40k monitors. I don't care if they do or don't but it's factual that their value will lie somewhere between a 4k monitor and a 40k monitor and judging from specs, it will be better than any monitor at said pricepoint.

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post 1581432311 06-04-2019, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Groundbreaking new technology? nope just improving upon existing technology, as per usual with apple. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, they've done it plenty of times before

-original iphone, pretty overpriced but groundbreaking and better than any competition at the time regardless of pricepoint
-apple watch. lol at the competition. they don't charge thousands of dollars for it even though it leaves the competition in the dumpster
-faceid, still nothing on android that competes. no radical new technology, just improving something that already exists.

All I'm saying is it's probably going to be the best monitor for 5k, competing with monitors in a higher price point. Pretty simple

List a single monitor with better specs than this monitor for cheaper. Protip, you can't.

So, going back to my original point


It will probably beat out other $4k monitors. It might beat out other even more expensive monitors. But you're stupid if you say the specs aren't impressive.
Just stop.
Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
oh so you're going to backtrack on the dell monitor comparison then? You said this monitor will compare against dells 8k monitor. It's ASTRONOMICALLY better on paper. I listed 2 specs but it wins on every metric outside of resolution. So against monitors at a similar price point it wins. Simple as that, but that's beyond your comprehension apparently. Apple says this monitor competes against 40k monitors. I don't care if they do or don't but it's factual that their value will lie somewhere between a 4k monitor and a 40k monitor but judging from specs, it will be better than any monitor at it's pricepoint.

You are an imbecile. Where do you live in SD? I want to get a good look at you irl to see if you look as stupid as you sound
Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
They aren't even in the same ballpark. This will be closer to like the Dell 8k than a true $20k+ reference monitor.
Are you literally fuking retarded? I said it would be more comparable to the dell than a true 20k reference monitor. That is an absolute fact and my position has not changed.

Only one backtracking is you with your "All I'm saying is it's probably going to be the best monitor for 5k, competing with monitors in a higher price point. Pretty simple." You said it would compete directly with a $40,000 monitor and you are 100% wrong. And now you say, "I don't care if they do or don't", yet that's the only point I've been arguing. You are backtracking right out of this thread and immediately started with insults when you can't defend your argument outside of the 2 numbers you read on paper (respond to my post about comparing to $40k monitors when you get a chance).
Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
It's competing against the $4,000-40,000 monitors
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Oh my bad, they specifically said they're competing against a $43,000 monitor.
God damn you are a dumb mother fuker. You have absolutely zero clue what you are talking about. You should stop where you are at before you embarrass yourself further.
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If Apple can con people into buying rebranded LG or Samsung monitors, than more power to them lmao.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Are you literally fuking retarded? I said it would be more comparable to the dell than a true 20k reference monitor. That is an absolute fact.
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Pretty sure i'm saying the same thing except that it will be better than the dell by a LARGE margine.
Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
God damn you are a dumb mother fuker. You have absolutely zero clue what you are talking about. You should stop where you are at before you embarrass yourself further.
reading comprehension, not even once. One quote saysIsaid it's competing against 4-40k monitors. The other quote saysThey said it's competing against 40k monitors.

Originally Posted By PhilosopherBrah⏩
Is the real tea. Usually lurk, but had to create an account just for this. Strong delusion if you think that this Apple Monitor is better than a $40,000 Sony Monitor through comparison of contrast ratio and brightness specs. Strong lol. You clearly got no idea about what you're talking about.
Strong reading comprehension if you think that's what i'm saying.
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Lmao..."ko300zx said".

You're either stupid or disingenuous.

Let's compare it to the dell 8k that you said

Dell UP3218K $3,899.99
Contrast Ratio1300:1
Brightness 400 cd/m²

Apple $5,000
Contrast Ratio 1,000,000:1
Brightness 1000 cd/m² sustained

Those specs in themselves make the comparison pointless as the apple monitor is already astronomically better than the monitor you suggest it compare to.

You might be trolling but whatever I guess. I'll go with you're just stupid.
Is the real tea. Usually lurk, but had to create an account just for this. Strong delusion if you think that this Apple Monitor is better than a $40,000 Sony Monitor through comparison of contrast ratio and brightness specs. Strong lol. You clearly got no idea about what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Imagine spending $6k on a 32 inch monitor.
Reference monitors in the professional space are regularly up to 20K. The price of the monitor isn't bad considering it's target audience, but the stand is inexcusable.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...hd_3g_sdi.html
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
Reference monitors in the professional space are regularly up to 20K. The price of the monitor isn't bad considering it's target audience, but the stand is inexcusable.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...hd_3g_sdi.html
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Pretty sure i'm saying the same thing except that it will be better than the dell by a LARGE margine.



reading comprehension, not even once. One quote saysIsaid it's competing against 4-40k monitors. The other quote saysThey said it's competing against 40k monitors.





Strong reading comprehension if you think that's what i'm saying.
I can read just fine and you are backtracking again. Keep going.
Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Bingo
LOL, not the same audience. Bingo.
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This is a pretty good article that more accurately compares this monitor's place in the ecosystem based on the paper specs since that's all anyone has at this point. It points out that while it's a great monitor it also lacks some professional features. Its basically just a high end consumer monitor.

"The lack of HDMI or SDI sets the Pro Display aside from other reference monitors, and it irks me."

https://fstoppers.com/originals/why-...orth-it-378941
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
This is a pretty good article that more accurately compares this monitor's place in the ecosystem based on the paper specs since that's all anyone has at this point. It points out that while it's a great monitor it also lacks some professional features. Its basically just a high end consumer monitor.

"The lack of HDMI or SDI sets the Pro Display aside from other reference monitors, and it irks me."

https://fstoppers.com/originals/why-...orth-it-378941
But muh brightness and muh contrast bro.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
But muh brightness and muh contrast bro.
brb spending 5 grand on a monitor with 1,000,000:1 contrast to make dank memes all day because I need 5 signal draining dongles to plug it into anything other than a mac pro
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
This is a pretty good article that more accurately compares this monitor's place in the ecosystem based on the paper specs since that's all anyone has at this point. It points out that while it's a great monitor it also lacks some professional features. Its basically just a high end consumer monitor.

"The lack of HDMI or SDI sets the Pro Display aside from other reference monitors, and it irks me."

https://fstoppers.com/originals/why-...orth-it-378941
I’m sure we’ll be seeing these displays in high-end studios soon, and I’m sure that some of the appeal will be the client seeing a brand they know and trust. Pros have called on Apple to provide updated gear for years, and it’s finally happened. I’m going to brush off the comments that they’ve missed the mark here.
Good article.
If we were to pick the new Atomos NEON monitor that matched Apple’s Pro Display the best, it would be the 31” model. This monitor comes in at $7,999. Granted, Atomos packs this monitor with way more I/O, a 4K 10-bit recorder, waveforms, LUTS, and even an accompanying app. But I hope you still see what the asking price for a good HDR monitor is.

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Apple makes a bold point here. They think that if everybody buys these monitors and they overtake the existing industry standard, then the industry will be better off.
Looks like it's priced pretty well vs the competition. Better in some ways, worse in others.
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
Reference monitors in the professional space are regularly up to 20K. The price of the monitor isn't bad considering it's target audience, but the stand is inexcusable.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...hd_3g_sdi.html
Sure, but you and I both know that Apple fanboys will spend their monthly paycheck on this without the need. There's a reason it's on the apple.com homepage i.e. they aren't just targeting some ultra niche audience, they are targeting both.
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
brb spending 5 grand on a monitor with 1,000,000:1 contrast to make dank memes all day because I need 5 signal draining dongles to plug it into anything other than a mac pro
Gonna be the dankest memes though bro, extra contrastey
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Good article.



Looks like it's priced pretty well vs the competition. Better in some ways, worse in others.
In your eyes, the competition is $43,000 monitors so how the fuk do you know if it's priced well? You don't know your azzhole from your forehead.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
In your eyes, the competition is $43,000 monitors so how the fuk do you know if it's priced well?
- In my eyes, it's competing against $4-40k monitors
- the Atomos NEON 31in model is $7,999 as per that article
-- has similar specs, better in some ways (more IO like you say), worse in others.

7,999 is in between 4000 and 40,000
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
- In my eyes, it's competing against $4-40k monitors
- the Atomos NEON 31in model is $7,999 as per that article
-- has similar specs, better in some ways (more IO like you say), worse in others.

7,999 is in between 4000 and 40,000
Lol pathetic.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Lol pathetic.
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Good article.

Looks like it's priced pretty well vs the competition. Better in some ways, worse in others.
Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Gonna be the dankest memes though bro, extra contrastey
lmao...I hope they find a niche with it and it performs better than expected TBH. If so it'll definitely drive down competitor's prices. I have no allegiance to computer chit, I just want a good balance of performance and price so everything else is profit. Excess cost is lost profit.
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
lmao...I hope they find a niche with it and it performs better than expected TBH. If so it'll definitely drive down competitor's prices. I have no allegiance to computer chit, I just want a good balance of performance and price so everything else is profit. Excess cost is lost profit.
Same.

Hopefully it would drive down prices but I'm sure 90+% of sales will just be casual people who don't even edit anything

With specs like that though, it would make sense for them to enter the high end TV market though. I wonder why they wont. Similar specs, 65-85in, $15k. There's definitely a market for that.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Somebody will probably do a "Hitler discovers new Apple monitor comes without stand" video too.
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
lol at u
How deep up Apple's shtter are you that you can't just admit it isn't competing with anything over MAYBE that $8k monitor (it's not)? Or are you just unwilling to admit you don't have any clue what you're talking about and just see that 1,000,000 > _____ whatever other number you read in some article, so you assume that means it warrants any price Apple demands and is comparable to anything they say it is?

Just absolutely pathetic. And to think you just start calling people stupid because you can't admit this simple fact or defend yourself. Ultimate Apple cuck.
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
How deep up Apples shtter are you that you can't just admit it isn't competing with anything over MAYBE that $8k monitor? Or are you just unwilling to admit you don't have any clue what you're talking about and just see that 1,000,000 > _____ whatever other number you read in some article, so you assume that means better?

Just absolutely pathetic. And to think you just start calling people stupid because you can't admit this simple fact or defend yourself. Ultimate cuck.
edit: sure i can admit that. like i just said, "Looks like it's priced pretty well vs the competition. Better in some ways, worse in others."


Maybe because you're twisting what I'm saying to prove some nonsensical point? That makes you stupid, or a loser, or any other list of names. Either way, at this point I don't really care so this will be my last reply to you.

Those numbers are quantifiable metrics to compare screens.
"1,000,000 > ____" is a viable comparison just like the apple monitor lacking important I/O is another viable comparison. But to you, only one of them are and the other being irrelevant.


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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Same.

Hopefully it would drive down prices but I'm sure 90+% of sales will just be casual people who don't even edit anything

With specs like that though, it would make sense for them to enter the high end TV market though. I wonder why they wont. Similar specs, 65-85in, $15k. There's definitely a market for that.
Might be them testing the water. That's a lot of effort to put into a monitor when the competition is already pretty massive. I doubt this model is their endgame.
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
edit: sure i can admit that. like i just said, "Looks like it's priced pretty well vs the competition. Better in some ways, worse in others."


Maybe because you're twisting what I'm saying to prove some nonsensical point? That makes you stupid, or a loser, or any other list of names. Either way, at this point I don't really care so this will be my last reply to you.

Those numbers are quantifiable metrics to compare screens.
"1,000,000 > ____" is a viable comparison just like the apple monitor lacking important I/O is another viable comparison. But to you, only one of them are and the other being irrelevant.


lmao at the neg. how triggered at you, you non-lifting child. go do a push up or two, maybe the energy expenditure will calm you down.
Lmao at twisting what you're saying.

Edit: Lol, at not even understanding the implications of having SDI versus USB-C.
Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Even if it's as good as a 20k reference monitor let alone a 40+k one, it changes the industry.
Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
They aren't even in the same ballpark. This will be closer to like the Dell 8k than a true $20k+ reference monitor.
Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
It's competing against the $4,000-40,000 monitors
Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
No it's not lol.
Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
Oh my bad, they specifically said they're competing against a $43,000 monitor.
So deep up their azzhole you've been defending their claim this will compete with a $43,000 for 2 pages. What part am I twisting?

Negged for being a *******, obviously. Not a single clue on the subject, calling everyone that proves you wrong stupid or whatever. And to call someone a child....there are some delusional posters on here but you may take the crown. You don't have to respond. You won't know anything more by then. I was only responding to see if you were going to take this to the grave or if you might admit Apple is full of sht.
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post 1581437881 06-04-2019, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
Might be them testing the water. That's a lot of effort to put into a monitor when the competition is already pretty massive. I doubt this model is their endgame.
Oh I'm sure. And to answer my own question, it's probably because people don't buy tvs as often as professionals upgrade their monitors. I'd guess Apple will try to become a major player in the screen game once their MicroLED investment starts providing

https://www.thestreet.com/story/1452...d-pay-off.html
Bloomberg reported on Sunday that Apple has built a 62,000-square foot facility to produce screens relying on MicroLED technology for testing purposes. It adds that engineers "managed to manufacture fully functional MicroLED screens for future Apple Watches" in late 2017, and have recently "grown confident in their ability to eventually replace screens from Samsung SSNLF and other suppliers."
First apple watches, then iphones, then macbooks/monitors, then maybe tvs
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post 1581438661 06-04-2019, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
In your eyes, the competition is $43,000 monitors so how the fuk do you know if it's priced well? You don't know your azzhole from your forehead.
I'd push you into an active volcano without a second thought. Srs.
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