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post 1583060321 06-30-2019, 07:47 PM
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I would have chose not to be born. Unless you win the genetic lottery, or you're born in a rich family with a good upbringing, then life just isn't worth living.
post 1583060361 06-30-2019, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Briangumble⏩
I would have chose not to be born. Unless you win the genetic lottery, or you're born in a rich family with a good upbringing, then life just isn't worth living.
That's far from true. I feel sorry for you if that's your real outlook.
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post 1583060491 06-30-2019, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
So you’re short and ugly? If that’s the case, your life is still about your choices.
yes I'm short and ugly, and there's no choice I can make that can change that. \
As a consequence of short and ugly, I'm also incel FA, no choice can change that.

The only choice I have is to make the most of my situation, but it cant change the situation itself.
post 1583060591 06-30-2019, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
yes I'm short and ugly, I'm also incel FA, no choice can change that.
It's the only thing that can...
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post 1583060601 06-30-2019, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I must be mistaken, you really are just a ray of sunshine.

Your response to anything in your life that isn't your choice, is your choice.
I agree, our response is in our control but our response doesnt always have the capacity to change anything.

My response to being ugly and short and incel is to fap 3million times a day and play videogames. that doesnt change the actually s*it situation, because that isnt even possible to change.

too much of life is like this. you have to just deal with your lot in life, there's only so much you can do.
post 1583060671 06-30-2019, 07:53 PM
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I have an amazing life for the most part, 100% would choose to be born again
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post 1583060731 06-30-2019, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted By manletstrength⏩
My brother abused me too and I have deep seeded issues because of him. I became a bi polar schizophrenic at 16yrs old as that's what the doctor diagnosed me with. I dropped out of school because I was depressed and suicidal. I've been in hell all by myself for over a decade because I struggle each and everyday. I'm never happy and I wish I was never born. I wish my mother would've had a miscarriage with me like she almost did when she was pregnant. I beat myself up constantly for not standing up for myself against my brother and just let him use me as a punching bag.

Fuk this life and fuk this existence that I came into. I'm a fuking NEET and I will never amount up to anything. I have no friends irl I'm always so lonely and alone. I hate myself. Everytime I look in the mirror I hate what I see in my reflection. Everything was taken away from me by my brother and I wish he would drop dead. I wish he could feel the pain I feel because of what he did to me.

Life has been chit for me. I'm trapped in my mind and I'm trapped in this black hell that I call my life. I'll never get out of the abyss. I'm fuked.
Why don't you just beat the **** out of him now then? They say revenge is a dish best served cold
post 1583060801 06-30-2019, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
That's far from true. I feel sorry for you if that's your real outlook.
What's your source?
post 1583060921 06-30-2019, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Briangumble⏩
What's your source?
Logic.

And Sartre, Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Jung and Jordan Peterson, all of whom were/are smarter than you and I are. They reached the same conclusions to some degree or another.
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post 1583060971 06-30-2019, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Briangumble⏩
Why don't you just beat the **** out of him now then? They say revenge is a dish best served cold
It would go farther than just beating the fuk out of him. Dont want to end up in prison for the rest of my life
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post 1583061261 06-30-2019, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
It's the only thing that can...
what are you talking about? I can chose to have a different face or grow? I dont control what women find attractive and how I happen to look the exact opposite. that isnt a choice
post 1583061281 06-30-2019, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
And we confirmed the choice to be miserable.
wtf are you talking about? you can be single and not miserable you retard. and even if I was single and miserable THAT ISNT A CHOICE. wtf dont u get about that?

I dont choose to be single, and I cant chose how being single makes me feel. none of that is a choice
post 1583061341 06-30-2019, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Logic.

And Sartre, Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Jung and Jordan Peterson, all of whom were/are smarter than you and I are. They reached the same conclusions to some degree or another.
If they're smarter than you and I are then they obviously won the genetic lottery.
post 1583061401 06-30-2019, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
what are you talking about? I can chose to have a different face or grow? I dont control what women find attractive and how I happen to look the exact opposite. that isnt a choice
I'm not going to keep explaining it to you bro. You know what we've been telling you. You just reject it, and you have every right to do so.

Just keep choosing to live a crappy life because you don't want to believe that more is possible while the rest of us keep on killing it.
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post 1583061561 06-30-2019, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I'm not going to keep explaining it to you bro. You know what we've been telling you. You just reject it, and you have every right to do so.

Just keep choosing to live a crappy life because you don't want to believe that more is possible while the rest of us keep on killing it.
Yea dude you guys keep telling me things that I've already tried many many many times and it doesnt work for me. You guys want me to ignore reality
post 1583061581 06-30-2019, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You can't choose how being single makes you feel? Seriously?

My bad, you're not miserable, your posts just radiate positivity.
No. How you feel is how you feel. Emotions are automatic, you dont control emotions. Otherwise why would anyone ever feel anything bad ever? Its not a choice

What you can control is how you handle how you feel. You can feel miserable and try to cheer yourself up at least for example
post 1583061651 06-30-2019, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
No. How you feel is how you feel. Emotions are automatic, you dont control emotions. Otherwise why would anyone ever feel anything bad ever? Its not a choice

What you can control is how you handle how you feel. You can feel miserable and try to cheer yourself up at least for example
I always try to cheer myself up. But, it never lasts for long.
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post 1583061771 06-30-2019, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted By manletstrength⏩
I always try to cheer myself up. But, it never lasts for long.
of course it doesnt last, unless you can change what makes you unhappy. but sometimes you cant
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No normal human or baby would choose to die if they had a choice, you feel that you may not want to have been born cause of two things. Mental health disease which you should seek help or feeling of missing out. Some kind of material comfort or security you want or feel entitled to. The fact that you can afford to post on this forum, have a computer/phone and internet connection is already a blessing of technology that can help to improve your skills, and financial income.
I just want to share the knowledge I have obtained throughout my life and hopefully change someone's life.
post 1583062391 06-30-2019, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By momo5⏩
ou cry and whine here, while kids in africa, and third world countries are smiling and happy to have a chance at life, despite being hungry or ina poverty position with little escape.

In the phillipines I would see kids running and having fun in streets filled with trash and garbage, filth water. People generally happy to have a chance at life despite the circumstances they would nto want to be dead.

You are being a selfish coward OP and don't expect me to comfort you get your sht together. Nobody wishes they weren't born, which is why they continue to live. Your just being a little btch crying online cause you don't have some material comfort you want to have, or vacations or things that you see in movies and tv, online.
this is a very primative way of looking at it. "brb some people are happy living in cardboard boxes and starving therefore you should be too".

Well, congrats to those people I guess but everyone is different. Different things make different people happy. People have different values. People have different genetics and natural emotional responses to their enviornment.

the fact that some people are happy with objectively rough lives doesnt mean everyone is or can be.
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Originally Posted By momo5⏩
No normal human or baby would choose to die if they had a choice.
thats not what anyone is saying. the question is, if you had a choice before you were ever even born, would you want to be born. not do you want to die. much different questions.
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No.

And just lmao at all the *******s in here going "just suck it up and make the right choices". Genetics and the experiences you undergo the first 12-13 years of your life before you have any real agency are too powerful to ignore. If bad enough, they can make it so that the likelihood you will even becapableof making the "right" choices is miniscule.

For me, personally, life is salvageable with the right choices going forward, but I'm not ignorant enough to assume that it's the same for everyone.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Sit down and STFU little boy. You don't know my back story, and don't pretend you do.

So many whiners on this forum nowadays.

"It's not my fault, I did not get the genetics to deal with life, my mommy did not hug me enough, and I didn't get enough "positive reinforcement" in the form of participation trophies"
I wasn't addressing you in particular. Don't even know what you posted. Don't care what your backstory is. You don't know my back story either.

All I was saying is that you can't make a blanket statement for everyone.

Amadou from Burkina Faso, whose father died before he was born and whose mother died of AIDS shortly after, who suffers from stunting due to severe malnutrition, is not going to turn his life around by having a positive attitude and making the right choices.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
"It's not my fault, I did not get the genetics to deal with life, my mommy did not hug me enough, and I didn't get enough "positive reinforcement" in the form of participation trophies"

Cliffs : Most men these days need a good kick in the ass.
you need to be educated on modern research/science and logic
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Originally Posted By Astyanax⏩
No.

And just lmao at all the *******s in here going "just suck it up and make the right choices". Genetics and the experiences you undergo the first 12-13 years of your life before you have any real agency are too powerful to ignore. If bad enough, they can make it so that the likelihood you will even becapableof making the "right" choices is miniscule.

For me, personally, life is salvageable with the right choices going forward, but I'm not ignorant enough to assume that it's the same for everyone.
absolute breath of fresh air. this is fuking common sense but some derps cant understand
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Fair enough. All of the incels on this forum saying they don't have any choice in anything, have those kind of circumstances. Got it.
quote me someone who said that they have no choice in anything.

incels dont have a choice in whether or not a woman wants to fuk them. that isnt a choice
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
It's your choice to make that your primary measurement of self worth in life.
but I dont.......
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Keep being miserable by choice.

"I can't control my feelings"
do you even know what a feeling is? its a chemical reaction in your brain. how the fuk can you control that dude. you're ignorant af
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Fair enough. All of the incels on this forum saying they don't have any choice in anything, have those kind of circumstances. Got it.
lol cmon dude. I was just making an extreme example.

As far as incels, yeah, some of them are just whiners but some aren't. The only way to tell is to get inside their head. Is it so inconceivable that genetics/upbringing can make some people mentally weaker than others? Something that might seem insignificant to us might be a big deal in the mind of someone else, through no choice of their own.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
It's quite literally the only thing you ever post about.

Take control of your life.
no its not. look at my post history from just today alone dude you are making crap up.

and even if it was"literally the only thing I ever post", posting about something doesnt mean thats how I'm judging my self worth.

you make no sense
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