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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
It's not about "a bag of weed". Imagine what would happen if cops just let anyone go that resisted?
They have the guy's car, license plate and picture on camera. I don't think he's getting away. Clearly far less dangerous to just wait at his house, his job, or pick him up when he comes to register his car, renew a drivers license, etc...

Common sense not even once
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Nah just let 14-felony guys with illegal firearms in their car free and tearing away from a traffic stop. You’ll catch him again later and certain he won’t break any other laws or commit others crimes in the process...no that makes total sense.
He knew all that before the incident?

Damn we Minority Report now?

So your move is to kill the person and then hopefully their record justifies it.

Got it.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1
They have the guy's car, license plate and picture on camera. I don't think he's getting away. Clearly far less dangerous to just wait at his house, his job, or pick him up when he comes to register his car, renew a drivers license, etc...

Common sense not even once
He didn't get very far leakin from a .40S&W sized hole either, now did he?
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential
Why would the officer risk his own life like that by hanging onto the car over... at best... catching a guy with a few bags of weed?

Like is it really that big of a deal if the guy takes off with some weed in his car?

Is it really worth hanging onto his car and shooting him over it?

Now they saying that the guy attempted murder on the officer... I don't see it that way, I see a man holding onto another mans car while he tried driving away from him.

Better solution?

Step off the car, guy takes off with a few bags of weed. No one dies.

His solution? Hold onto car, risk his own life, shoot at the guy, attempt to end his life.

Why?

Few bags of weed, if even... talk about escalating a situation from ---literally nothing---, to "someone's gonna die today"
cop wanted to be a hero lol.

id step back, shake my head and call it in and get back up. not worth all that drama chit.

some people make chitty as decisions in high pressure situations. not defending the driver cuz he is also a idiot for driving off.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon
He knew all that before the incident?

Damn we Minority Report now?

So your move is to kill the person and then hopefully their record justifies it.

Got it.
Oh makes sense...I’ll try that the next time I’m pulled over for speeding. I’ll take off and just assume they’ll catch up with me in a few days. Lol
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1
They have the guy's car, license plate and picture on camera. I don't think he's getting away. Clearly far less dangerous to just wait at his house, his job, or pick him up when he comes to register his car, renew a drivers license, etc...

Common sense not even once
Holy **** this **** right here is some other level of retard. You HAVE to be some sheltered liberal moron for real. You think a dude who is willing to risk getting shot to get away is going to peacefully give up when confronted at his house, job, wherever? For that matter you REALLY think hes just going to be driving around in that car after that? And when he goes to renew his license WHAT?!??!? ****ing LMAO!
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Originally Posted By Underwrought
Holy **** this **** right here is some other level of retard. You HAVE to be some sheltered liberal moron for real. You think a dude who is willing to risk getting shot to get away is going to peacefully give up when confronted at his house, job, wherever? For that matter you REALLY think hes just going to be driving around in that car after that? And when he goes to renew his license WHAT?!??!? ****ing LMAO!
Lol. Seems really safer to the officer and the public to pull this stunt over something this guy possesses. Not to even get into the government's right to tell grown men what they can posses.

Just lol at you, I'm sure the government appreciates your absolute submission to their authority and poor decisions.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1
Lol. Seems really safer to the officer and the public to pull this stunt over something this guy possesses. Not to even get into the government's right to tell grown men what they can posses.

Just lol at you, I'm sure the government appreciates your absolute submission to their authority and poor decisions.
Are you still on the possession bit? Haven't we moved past this? Fuk you *******s are dense.
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Originally Posted By jimbone21
Watched the video and didn't just skip right to the 8 minute mark.
1) The guy is SUPER nervous and glassy eyed when the cop walks up.
2) Find out it is just about tint and relaxes.
3) Cop and guy have friendly banter for 6 minutes
4) Cop smells weed and even tells the guy that if it is just for personal use he doesn't give a crap
5) Guy starts freaking out at the thought of the cop searching his car
** Criminals with warrants, massive amounts of drugs, illegal guns, dead bodies in trunks often act this way. Normal people with a roach in the ash tray generally do not.**
*** Keep in mind that the cop STILL doesn't have his gun out at this point ***
6) Cop pleads with guy to settle down, guy is freaking out
7) Cop pulls gun screaming for the guy to stop moving around because at any point the hand that flails just out of view can come back into view with a gun
8) Guy loses his mind flailing around in the car while cop says no less than a dozen times "PUT YOUR HANDS UP"
9) Guy grabs for the cops fcking gun!?!? I read the whole thread before watching the video and I'm absolutely blown away that people are defending the criminal in any way. The end is rough but give me a break. This is the epitome of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." Guy has drugs and a gun in the car and didn't want to get busted again and acted in a horrible way.

Cops are doing a job and are not robotic embodiments of the American legal system. They should have better than a 50/50 chance of making it home to their families at the end of the day.
Lmao what police department on planet Earth do the cops have a 50/50% of death??

I am no statistician but in my experience in Cali I hear about a few cop deaths per year out of tens of thousands of cops here. Multiple that by the average career span of 25 years you have about a 1 in 1000 chance of getting killed on the job as a cop. Just lmao @ being a scared lil bish jumping the gun.


Edit: to be clear I definitely do not think the cop in this situation did anything wrong. I am sick of cop apologists sucking cop dinks though talking about how noble and flawless they are.
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This isn’t ****ing Minority Report...
This didn't age well.
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“I don’t know how many rounds were fired into the car, but it was probably not enough,” Lemma told reporters.


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Originally Posted By Train57
cop clearly escalated it by drawing he could have just let the guy drive off and they could have caught him later
That's not the police job to "let people go" and "we'll just catch them later".
Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
It's not about "a bag of weed". Imagine what would happen if cops just let anyone go that resisted?
this... wtf is wrong with some of you?
Originally Posted By northernlights7
This. You also have to seriously wonder why the guy would take off and create a police chase situation over some basic MJ. It's highly probable that a lot more might be going on than a little MJ for personal use if they're willing to flee from the cops over it. What if this dude had a kidnapping victim in his trunk or trunk full of illegal firearms that were the real reason he was willing to take such a serious risk to get away? This isn't the 90's, getting busted over a little MJ isn't gonna get you nearly enough time to warrant trying to flee from the cops over it. Dude was a moron who should have just taken the L over the MJ and been done with it rather than escalating the situation to such ridiculous levels.
This....

Yes MJ and MJ laws are ****ing ridiculous. I live in a recreational state and I've heard of people getting pulled over with plenty of LB's on them and being let go with a warning, just not worth the police time. But if a person attempts to flee/elud... wtf do you expect?
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Only in America.
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Guy was total moron for trying to drive away, but at the same time also feel sorry him . Clearly not the brightest spark
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Originally Posted By Peacening
Lmao what police department on planet Earth do the cops have a 50/50% of death??

I am no statistician but in my experience in Cali I hear about a few cop deaths per year out of tens of thousands of cops here. Multiple that by the average career span of 25 years you have about a 1 in 1000 chance of getting killed on the job as a cop. Just lmao @ being a scared lil bish jumping the gun.


Edit: to be clear I definitely do not think the cop in this situation did anything wrong. I am sick of cop apologists sucking cop dinks though talking about how noble and flawless they are.
Uhh...what? I said they SHOULDN'T have just a 50/50 shot at making it out alive, referring to all these idiots wanting cops to walk a mile backwards before shooting or shoot the guy in the hand or wait to shoot until shot at. Didn't mention anything about nobility or perfection, just saying that they have a dangerous job but it is just a job and they should be able to protect themselves.
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Originally Posted By CityJaeger
Only in America.
Yep only in america do we have a crime problem where criminals are constantly fighting police and police constantly have to worry about being attacked and/or killed by criminals.
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Originally Posted By ooph
Yep only in america do we have a crime problem where criminals are constantly fighting police and police constantly have to worry about being attacked and/or killed by criminals.
Exactly

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hes acting casual in the beginning but definitely knows somethings up or potential. the cops are always up to this trickery. they will attempt to be friends but they are just playing. at the same time, he is in potential danger, so theres stuff going on beyond just a friendly chat. the guy smoking the black and mild wouldnt be a bad idea if he would take some really quick drags then put it out inside. too obvious otherwise.

having watched the full video i dont really understand a number of things. number one, why did the guy resist so badly just over some pot? the cop was probably honest with him when he told him he doesnt care about some personal use stuff. why freak out crying and doing, what brings me to the next question, whatever set the cop off? from the view after one watch, the cop just grabs his seat belt and starts going HAM out of nowhere, but had he shifted into gear? thought the car was off?


i watched one more time. i still dont get it.

the events leading to shooting begin at 8:40. they are sort of arguing about the black guy not wanting to get in trouble over marijuana. the cop says 'listen listen listen' then reaches into the window. then hes saying do me a favor do me a favor do me a favor. the black guy reaches out and grabs the cops currently empty right hand. or maybe hes holding on to the car with it.

i dont have time to go with further step by step but once hes grabbing the gun its fair game, even driving with the cop hanging in the window is very bad. obviously this guy fu cked up. but why did the cop feel the need to initiate physical contact without clear verbal commands? was it necessary to escalate it like that? had the guy shifted into gear? i dont really get it
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential
Why would the officer risk his own life like that by hanging onto the car over... at best... catching a guy with a few bags of weed?

Like is it really that big of a deal if the guy takes off with some weed in his car?

Is it really worth hanging onto his car and shooting him over it?

Now they saying that the guy attempted murder on the officer... I don't see it that way, I see a man holding onto another mans car while he tried driving away from him.

Better solution?

Step off the car, guy takes off with a few bags of weed. No one dies.

His solution? Hold onto car, risk his own life, shoot at the guy, attempt to end his life.

Why?

Few bags of weed, if even... talk about escalating a situation from ---literally nothing---, to "someone's gonna die today"
Must've needed a few more to hit quota.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge
Must've needed a few more to hit quota.
The fact police have quotas is ridiculous, I mean it doesn't take much to conclude why that's a bad idea.

I don't even think he's a bad guy, I think it was a heat of the moment thing, and cops in America are conditioned to be very stand their ground ish, show no weakness, shoot first ask questions later.

And it is a kind of conditioning, always on edge kind of thing. And yes they've got good reason to be on edge. But because they've got good reason to be on edge, doesn't make an action ok.

Like I imagine his mind is like "Oh no, guy is trying to run ME over... it's not MY FAULT for holding onto HIS CAR... no... HE'S RUNNING ME OVER... I've gotta shoot him"

When the reality is - Guy is taking off in his car, officer is holding onto his car and shooting at him.

Whatever Minority Report future ability seeing abilities the officer might have cannot be used to judge his actions (unless he can prove he can see the future or see through walls). Judgements must be made on current facts.
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The system screwed up letting this dude with that many felonies back on the streets,

The dude screwed up by freaking out, reaching for gun, and driving with the cop still hanging on.

The cop screwed up by holding onto the car like he did.
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Clarification: "Rudolph Jr. has 15 felony convictions, eight misdemeanor convictions, 32 felony charges, and 22 misdemeanor charges."

https://m.theepochtimes.com/florida-...p_2984907.html

Oh yeah, stolen handguns. Had also beat a murder rap.

https://www.wftv.com/news/local/susp...mary/962593497
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Originally Posted By ooph
Clarification: "Rudolph Jr. has 15 felony convictions, eight misdemeanor convictions, 32 felony charges, and 22 misdemeanor charges."

https://m.theepochtimes.com/florida-...p_2984907.html

Oh yeah, stolen handguns. Had also beat a murder rap.

https://www.wftv.com/news/local/susp...mary/962593497
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I dont understand why people are saying the guy was scared or panicked...He is yelling "I didnt do nuthin", flailing his hands around as if to say "are you kidding me", goes for the officers gun and then drives off with the officer attached to the car...

He isnt scared, he is p*ssed that he is being "harassed"... His actions are pretty much a recipe to get shot up by the Police.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1
They have the guy's car, license plate and picture on camera. I don't think he's getting away. Clearly far less dangerous to just wait at his house, his job, or pick him up when he comes to register his car, renew a drivers license, etc...

Common sense not even once
and then down the road he does this

https://dmlnews.com/video-dashcam-vi...rested-photos/

turns an innocent woman into a pile of mush because he's completely incapable of rational thought
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
I dont understand why people are saying the guy was scared or panicked...He is yelling "I didnt do nuthin", flailing his hands around as if to say "are you kidding me", goes for the officers gun and then drives off with the officer attached to the car...

He isnt scared, he is p*ssed that he is being "harassed"... His actions are pretty much a recipe to get shot up by the Police.
Wut? The dude looks he is in fight or flight and on the verge of a mental breakdown/tears.
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i cant believe this ***** couldnt keep his shiit straight , even if he would get a few yrs .. weak as fuk
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Jesus

im not defending the criminal, but I cant understand why the cop would hang onto the guys seatbelt, and then double down on that decision after and hold onto the vehicle. Could of easily gotten himself killed there. If he smoked a little weed hes not exactly under the influence lol.

He had the guys ID, video of him, his license number etc.. going home to your family alive at the end of the day should be any police officers #1 priority. Not risking your damn life over a mentally unstable guy with a few bags of weed.
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