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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
No. It will suck as long as it continues to be prohibitively expensive for children to play from a young age. You want to complain about elitism but have an entirely entitled setup as it is...and expect to be catered to on top of it all?the "farming system" here will suck as long as the top athletes chose other sports like football and baseball.
did you even pay attention to who I was calling the elitist d-bags?
did you even pay attention to who I was calling the elitist d-bags?
Good luck with that.
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Originally Posted By umadbroski⏩
That’s generally what happens when the majority doesn’t care about it enough to put any effort inno.
soccer is not a top 5 sport on the US because you guys suck at it, not the other way around.
soccer is not a top 5 sport on the US because you guys suck at it, not the other way around.
Honestly you all should be thanking the USA for creating superior sports and leaving soccer for you.
You’re welcome
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
superior sports, lmao.That’s generally what happens when the majority doesn’t care about it enough to put any effort in
Honestly you all should be thanking the USA for creating superior sports and leaving soccer for you.
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Honestly you all should be thanking the USA for creating superior sports and leaving soccer for you.
You’re welcome
yeah, thanks for not taking part on a sport you know you suck, really thanks a lot.
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Originally Posted By MajesticLion⏩
expensive to play soccer?No. It will suck as long as it continues to be prohibitively expensive for children to play from a young age. You want to complain about elitism but have an entirely entitled setup as it is...and expect to be catered to on top of it all?
Good luck with that.
Good luck with that.
it doesn't hold a candle to the costs to play football, baseball, or even the even less popular lacross.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
Thank you for your service for creating superior sports.That’s generally what happens when the majority doesn’t care about it enough to put any effort in
Honestly you all should be thanking the USA for creating superior sports and leaving soccer for you.
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Honestly you all should be thanking the USA for creating superior sports and leaving soccer for you.
You’re welcome
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Originally Posted By umadbroski⏩
Calm down Greg.no.
soccer is not a top 5 sport on the US because you guys suck at it, not the other way around.
soccer is not a top 5 sport on the US because you guys suck at it, not the other way around.
I'm sure everyone in the US just grows up as a child thinking gee we all suck at soccer I guess I'll have to play Football/Baseball/Basketball instead.
Do you think there's something magical about people born in the US that makes them incapable of playing Soccer? Seems like a pretty retarded idea to have instead of maybe nobody cares enough about pursuing it.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
This is where what you don't know becomes abundantly clear.expensive to play soccer?
it doesn't hold a candle to the costs to play football, baseball, or even the even less popular lacross.
it doesn't hold a candle to the costs to play football, baseball, or even the even less popular lacross.
Find out the facts first,thentalk.
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Originally Posted By MajesticLion⏩
hows it expensive, srsThis is where what you don't know becomes abundantly clear.
Find out the facts first,thentalk.
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LOL at thinking soccer is here to stay. This happens every World Cup, and it's immediately forgotten about in 3 months once we get real sports on TV again.
That being said, I think soccer may be more popular in a generation. The NFL has had a stranglehold on US sports for two generations, but now as that product's starting to die, you're starting to see other sports get more eyeballs as people look for a new sport to fill that vacuum. The MLB is fukking dead (where they get the money to offer those huge contracts is beyond me), but the NBA, hockey, soccer, even fukking Twitch are all getting more views. Which ones will stick, I don't know, but there are more viewers and more potential players interested in alternative sports besides football/basketball for the first time in decades. Maybe if we keep on pumping children full of soy, we'll have a bunch of soccer fans in 20 years.
And LOL at Euro****s saying "Americans will never be good at soccer!" You're telling me that an NFL running back with this kind of speed, balance, and agility wouldn't fukking wreck on a soccer pitch. Imagine he's dribbling a ball on his foot during this run, and you can virtually see him carving his way through a soccer defense.

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That being said, I think soccer may be more popular in a generation. The NFL has had a stranglehold on US sports for two generations, but now as that product's starting to die, you're starting to see other sports get more eyeballs as people look for a new sport to fill that vacuum. The MLB is fukking dead (where they get the money to offer those huge contracts is beyond me), but the NBA, hockey, soccer, even fukking Twitch are all getting more views. Which ones will stick, I don't know, but there are more viewers and more potential players interested in alternative sports besides football/basketball for the first time in decades. Maybe if we keep on pumping children full of soy, we'll have a bunch of soccer fans in 20 years.
And LOL at Euro****s saying "Americans will never be good at soccer!" You're telling me that an NFL running back with this kind of speed, balance, and agility wouldn't fukking wreck on a soccer pitch. Imagine he's dribbling a ball on his foot during this run, and you can virtually see him carving his way through a soccer defense.
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Originally Posted By MajesticLion⏩
just one of many sources proving you wrong.This is where what you don't know becomes abundantly clear.
Find out the facts first,thentalk.
Find out the facts first,thentalk.
https://time.com/4913284/kids-sports-cost/
if a kid wants to play kickball he/she needs cleats, shin guards, probably a uniform and league fees. if the same kid wants to play baseball for example they need all those things needed for kickball plus a glove, bat, batting glove, hat, and probably a bag. football? same things again as kickball plus pads, helmet and gloves.
literally every other sport at the start at LEAST requires more equipment.
just stop while you are behind. you don't know anything about what you are saying.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
When you play sports you can do through out your time at school are they really that expensive?just one of many sources proving you wrong.
https://time.com/4913284/kids-sports-cost/
if a kid wants to play kickball he/she needs cleats, shin guards, probably a uniform and league fees. if the same kid wants to play baseball for example they need all those things needed for kickball plus a glove, bat, batting glove, hat, and probably a bag. football? same things again as kickball plus pads, helmet and gloves.
literally every other sport at the start at LEAST requires more equipment.
just stop while you are behind. you don't know anything about what you are saying.
https://time.com/4913284/kids-sports-cost/
if a kid wants to play kickball he/she needs cleats, shin guards, probably a uniform and league fees. if the same kid wants to play baseball for example they need all those things needed for kickball plus a glove, bat, batting glove, hat, and probably a bag. football? same things again as kickball plus pads, helmet and gloves.
literally every other sport at the start at LEAST requires more equipment.
just stop while you are behind. you don't know anything about what you are saying.
I helped someone sign their kid up for soccer actually recently since he was computer illiterate and that **** was pretty expensive. It was around $2k for the season in fees and the jerseys and what not were another $600 or so.
Some other dude I know is constantly crying about how much it costs him for his kid to play Hockey. I'm not sure how much truth there is in what hes saying but its always something insane like 10K. Hes probably just talking out of his ass though
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Originally Posted By FFailed⏩
depends on the school. In high school I had a coach tell me and a few other kids hoping to play, "it is suggested that parents donate $500 to the booster club to help pay for the team's fees. some families pay that and some pay more. those kids will get to play. I have to play them. if you don't you'd better be the best on the team by a large margin.".When you play sports you can do through out your time at school are they really that expensive?
I helped someone sign their kid up for soccer actually recently since he was computer illiterate and that **** was pretty expensive. It was around $2k for the season in fees and the jerseys and what not were another $600 or so.
Some other dude I know is constantly crying about how much it costs him for his kid to play Hockey. I'm not sure how much truth there is in what hes saying but its always something insane like 10K. Hes probably just talking out of his ass though
I helped someone sign their kid up for soccer actually recently since he was computer illiterate and that **** was pretty expensive. It was around $2k for the season in fees and the jerseys and what not were another $600 or so.
Some other dude I know is constantly crying about how much it costs him for his kid to play Hockey. I'm not sure how much truth there is in what hes saying but its always something insane like 10K. Hes probably just talking out of his ass though
don't know about college. it's probably part of tuition but I can't speak to that exp.
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[QUOTE=Mumra post_id=1583634291]just one of many sources proving you wrong.
[url]https://time.com/4913284/kids-sports-cost/[url]
if a kid wants to play kickball he/she needs cleats, shin guards, probably a uniform and league fees. if the same kid wants to play baseball for example they need all those things needed for kickball plus a glove, bat, batting glove, hat, and probably a bag. football? same things again as kickball plus pads, helmet and gloves.
literally every other sport at the start at LEAST requires more equipment.
just stop while you are behind. you don't know anything about what you are saying.[/QUOTE]If the kid is straight up rec league then soccer is cheap and most medium sized towns have local leagues where they do not have to travel. They can also play high school soccer but you will not be recruited from a high school team. If a kid wants to go pro they have to play private club ball which will cost you thousands in club fees in addition to travel, lodging, time sink, etc.
Meanwhile a kid wanting to turn pro or get a scholarship playing football, baseball or basketball only needs to perform at his high school (mostly) at taxpayers expense because colleges send recruiters to every corner of the country.
Soccer is cheap to play for fun but its far more expensive to succeed in at a high level.
[url]https://time.com/4913284/kids-sports-cost/[url]
if a kid wants to play kickball he/she needs cleats, shin guards, probably a uniform and league fees. if the same kid wants to play baseball for example they need all those things needed for kickball plus a glove, bat, batting glove, hat, and probably a bag. football? same things again as kickball plus pads, helmet and gloves.
literally every other sport at the start at LEAST requires more equipment.
just stop while you are behind. you don't know anything about what you are saying.[/QUOTE]If the kid is straight up rec league then soccer is cheap and most medium sized towns have local leagues where they do not have to travel. They can also play high school soccer but you will not be recruited from a high school team. If a kid wants to go pro they have to play private club ball which will cost you thousands in club fees in addition to travel, lodging, time sink, etc.
Meanwhile a kid wanting to turn pro or get a scholarship playing football, baseball or basketball only needs to perform at his high school (mostly) at taxpayers expense because colleges send recruiters to every corner of the country.
Soccer is cheap to play for fun but its far more expensive to succeed in at a high level.
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
doesn't explain the difference in success between the mens and women's teams.If the kid is straight up rec league then soccer is cheap and most medium sized towns have local leagues where they do not have to travel. They can also play high school soccer but you will not be recruited from a high school team. If a kid wants to go pro they have to play private club ball which will cost you thousands in club fees in addition to travel, lodging, time sink, etc.
Meanwhile a kid wanting to turn pro or get a scholarship playing football, baseball or basketball only needs to perform at his high school (mostly) at taxpayers expense because colleges send recruiters to every corner of the country.
Soccer is cheap to play for fun but its far more expensive to succeed in at a high level.
Meanwhile a kid wanting to turn pro or get a scholarship playing football, baseball or basketball only needs to perform at his high school (mostly) at taxpayers expense because colleges send recruiters to every corner of the country.
Soccer is cheap to play for fun but its far more expensive to succeed in at a high level.
women can just afford to play soccer?
edit: found this
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...814-story.html
but it just basically says that the women's team pulls from a bunch of different college leagues.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
I think its because women's soccer is a flagship title 9 sport and they get scholarships and continue to play into an older age instead of switching to football, baseball, etc. like boys do. I should have noted the difference between mens and womens soccer in this country. We probably put more emphasis on girls soccer here than they do in every other country, which is why our girls always take the piss out of their girls. Our men would do the same if the situation was reversed.doesn't explain the difference in success between the mens and women's teams.
women can just afford to play soccer?
women can just afford to play soccer?
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*vegan bodybuilder crew*superior sports, lmao.
yeah, thanks for not taking part on a sport you know you suck, really thanks a lot.
yeah, thanks for not taking part on a sport you know you suck, really thanks a lot.
Have another soylent and watch some soccer, homo
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Euro****s cant even beat our womens team
if our athletic men decided to play soccer they would WRECK everyone. If our women can, why couldnt we?
LOGIC NOT EVEN ONCE
if our athletic men decided to play soccer they would WRECK everyone. If our women can, why couldnt we?
LOGIC NOT EVEN ONCE
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Originally Posted By HouseOfISRAEL⏩
guaranteed can't kick a ball on target from outside the box.Euro****s cant even beat our womens team
if our athletic men decided to play soccer they would WRECK everyone. If our women can, why couldnt we?
LOGIC NOT EVEN ONCE
if our athletic men decided to play soccer they would WRECK everyone. If our women can, why couldnt we?
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
exactly thisI think its because women's soccer is a flagship title 9 sport and they get scholarships and continue to play into an older age instead of switching to football, baseball, etc. like boys do. I should have noted the difference between mens and womens soccer in this country. We probably put more emphasis on girls soccer here than they do in every other country, which is why our girls always take the piss out of their girls. Our men would do the same if the situation was reversed.
our athletic boys go to baseball, basketball, boxing, hockey, and football
girls soccer gets hella scholarships
imagine if 1/8 of our athletes started taking mens soccer seriously?!
we would WRECK soccer like the womens america team
the euroCucks and *******s need to get real
We are on ANOTHER LEVEL in training, nutrition, culture and physicals
stick to poverty soccer while you have it.
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Originally Posted By HouseOfISRAEL⏩
Soccer is not about being athletic you dumb fuk. Muscle puts you at a disadvantage when playing soccer. Now go lift and stop acting like you've played a sport in your life.Euro****s cant even beat our womens team
if our athletic men decided to play soccer they would WRECK everyone. If our women can, why couldnt we?
LOGIC NOT EVEN ONCE
if our athletic men decided to play soccer they would WRECK everyone. If our women can, why couldnt we?
LOGIC NOT EVEN ONCE
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
Googling articles won't help you here. This is where what you don't know becomes abundantly clear.just one of many sources proving you wrong.
https://time.com/4913284/kids-sports-cost/
if a kid wants to play kickball he/she needs cleats, shin guards, probably a uniform and league fees. if the same kid wants to play baseball for example they need all those things needed for kickball plus a glove, bat, batting glove, hat, and probably a bag. football? same things again as kickball plus pads, helmet and gloves.
literally every other sport at the start at LEAST requires more equipment.
just stop while you are behind. you don't know anything about what you are saying.
https://time.com/4913284/kids-sports-cost/
if a kid wants to play kickball he/she needs cleats, shin guards, probably a uniform and league fees. if the same kid wants to play baseball for example they need all those things needed for kickball plus a glove, bat, batting glove, hat, and probably a bag. football? same things again as kickball plus pads, helmet and gloves.
literally every other sport at the start at LEAST requires more equipment.
just stop while you are behind. you don't know anything about what you are saying.
Find out the facts first,thentalk.
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Originally Posted By FFailed⏩
I played both football and soccer growing up. I was always the fastest and one of the more athletic kids on any team I played growing up. Dat dere genetics (football, baseball, and soccer for one year)Calm down Greg.
I'm sure everyone in the US just grows up as a child thinking gee we all suck at soccer I guess I'll have to play Football/Baseball/Basketball instead.
Do you think there's something magical about people born in the US that makes them incapable of playing Soccer? Seems like a pretty retarded idea to have instead of maybe nobody cares enough about pursuing it.
I'm sure everyone in the US just grows up as a child thinking gee we all suck at soccer I guess I'll have to play Football/Baseball/Basketball instead.
Do you think there's something magical about people born in the US that makes them incapable of playing Soccer? Seems like a pretty retarded idea to have instead of maybe nobody cares enough about pursuing it.
I played football for 2 years and then decided to try soccer. I dominated the first local league just by being a little more advanced physically than the competition, so I joined a travel league that same year which I did very well in but was more competitive. That was the only year I played soccer... I so much preferred the physicality and intensity of football and even the difference of the teammates and coaches involved in the sport was noticeable for me.
So I gave it a shot for year and stuck with football every year after that.
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Originally Posted By Xinroth⏩
^ this thread. Let's recap real quick though:
-Americans can't kick a ball properly as they lack coordination, so they pretend like Soccer sucks and that the good athletes play other sports.
-American soccer does indeed suck, MLS & USMNT are second-tier teams.
-Americans can't stand not being world-class at something.
-Politics are going to keep this chit-cycle of news coming, campaigning for equal pay.
-Americans are correct about the ****giness of diving in soccer. Really, nobody likes that, and it is indeed a huge turnoff lately.
-It's easier to learn how to play American Football/Basketball, than soccer.
try again.
Quoting for a accuracy. The people who hate soccer the most are typically fat and uncoordinated.
^ this thread. Let's recap real quick though:
-Americans can't kick a ball properly as they lack coordination, so they pretend like Soccer sucks and that the good athletes play other sports.
-American soccer does indeed suck, MLS & USMNT are second-tier teams.
-Americans can't stand not being world-class at something.
-Politics are going to keep this chit-cycle of news coming, campaigning for equal pay.
-Americans are correct about the ****giness of diving in soccer. Really, nobody likes that, and it is indeed a huge turnoff lately.
-It's easier to learn how to play American Football/Basketball, than soccer.
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
I don’t know now but my local rec league when I was like 12 was $$$$.If the kid is straight up rec league then soccer is cheap and most medium sized towns have local leagues where they do not have to travel. They can also play high school soccer but you will not be recruited from a high school team. If a kid wants to go pro they have to play private club ball which will cost you thousands in club fees in addition to travel, lodging, time sink, etc.
Meanwhile a kid wanting to turn pro or get a scholarship playing football, baseball or basketball only needs to perform at his high school (mostly) at taxpayers expense because colleges send recruiters to every corner of the country.
Soccer is cheap to play for fun but its far more expensive to succeed in at a high level.
Meanwhile a kid wanting to turn pro or get a scholarship playing football, baseball or basketball only needs to perform at his high school (mostly) at taxpayers expense because colleges send recruiters to every corner of the country.
Soccer is cheap to play for fun but its far more expensive to succeed in at a high level.
They are all apart of youth nation champs and state cups.
AYSO has tons of invitationals.
We won our league and got invited to like 10 invitationals. Where each one is $200+per player over multiple days hrs away.
It reminds me of south park where the boys kept winning and had to keep playing and lost their summer.
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07-10-2019, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Purfected⏩
Agreed. Now in an adult league, it’s worse though. Atleast the “competitive” ones. It’s even no contact, just get hot heads trying to get the rage out.It's not dangerous for kids
but I can tell you as somebody who was damn good at Hockey growing up that once you reach the highschool age every ******* on the ice has a chip on their shoulder and will make dangerous plays or hits to try and prove how tough and cool they are. and it was god damned annoying
but I can tell you as somebody who was damn good at Hockey growing up that once you reach the highschool age every ******* on the ice has a chip on their shoulder and will make dangerous plays or hits to try and prove how tough and cool they are. and it was god damned annoying
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07-10-2019, 05:17 PM
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#119
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Originally Posted By FFailed⏩
Lmao $2k?? To play actual football??? That cannot be real life.When you play sports you can do through out your time at school are they really that expensive?
I helped someone sign their kid up for soccer actually recently since he was computer illiterate and that **** was pretty expensive. It was around $2k for the season in fees and the jerseys and what not were another $600 or so.
Some other dude I know is constantly crying about how much it costs him for his kid to play Hockey. I'm not sure how much truth there is in what hes saying but its always something insane like 10K. Hes probably just talking out of his ass though
I helped someone sign their kid up for soccer actually recently since he was computer illiterate and that **** was pretty expensive. It was around $2k for the season in fees and the jerseys and what not were another $600 or so.
Some other dude I know is constantly crying about how much it costs him for his kid to play Hockey. I'm not sure how much truth there is in what hes saying but its always something insane like 10K. Hes probably just talking out of his ass though
I played football to a decent level here in the UK until age 18. It was always like £150-£300 max per season, which included the playing kit. You just needed your own playing boots and shinguards, and that was it. If you were picked up by a semi-pro team, then they would start paying you.
In what loony world does it cost 2k for a kid to play a sport? This literally is a poverty sport, all you really need is 2 goals and a ball. I must have misunderstood, not sure if srs.
Also, lol at the braindead ameri****s in here vastly underestimating the skill levels and technique required to play real football.
The athletics talent pool in the US is scary, so if it actually became popular then you should have a strong as fuk team. But it's unlikely to happen, American culture just doesn't gel with the sport. Even the MLS feels corny as fuk, weird fans, weird commentators, team names, it's like watching some pointless charity match. You can't go from giant steroid heads, beyonce at half-time, commercials every 30 seconds etc, to actually sitting down for 90 minutes and being able to appreciate the genius of a Messi or Zidane.
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09-21-2019, 10:51 AM
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#120
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Originally Posted By NorthernLad93⏩
Point and agreed brawManlets have lower center of gravity, which is more beneficial in footy when it comes to ball control. Only defenders and goal keepers tend to be 6"2+
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