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What is the reason for Japan's plummeting birthrate?
What is the reason for Japan's plummeting birthrate?
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Japan is an alpha af country. 33% of the population is older than 60
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Most women in Japan work, are highly educated, and wealth is pretty prominent in all ranges of Japan's society. They don't need a man.
People own their own places, take vacations, have retirement, and medical insurance.
Robots and AI do a lot for Japan's society (much more than US/EU/Asian countries).
They don't allow immigration from the 3rd world.
The legal system crushes men in divorce proceedings. Men are intelligent to not be married to women; so they don't marry.
Marriage is an integral part of Japanese society when it comes to having children. Shame/Honor is still a big thing in Japan. It is shameful to be unwed and have children.
The balance between honoring society but not being a puppet to a corrupt sexist legal system makes men decline marriage.
You end up with a bifurcated and declining populace at that point. Should you have kids? Sure. Do you want to get ****ed over after working 40 years? No. Is society willing to accept unwed families in Japan? No.
Japan is fine without having kids though in mass. They're using technology to fill the labor shortage. More automation in blue-collar fields and more roboticization in labor fields allows old people to do work and "no one" to do work where you required less inclined toward softskills/education "people" in the past.
Basically Japan doesn't need lots of kids. "Peak Child" hit in the 90's for Japan and they'll never have as many kids as they did back then in Japan.
South Korea is actually declining faster than Japan. Fun fact.
People own their own places, take vacations, have retirement, and medical insurance.
Robots and AI do a lot for Japan's society (much more than US/EU/Asian countries).
They don't allow immigration from the 3rd world.
The legal system crushes men in divorce proceedings. Men are intelligent to not be married to women; so they don't marry.
Marriage is an integral part of Japanese society when it comes to having children. Shame/Honor is still a big thing in Japan. It is shameful to be unwed and have children.
The balance between honoring society but not being a puppet to a corrupt sexist legal system makes men decline marriage.
You end up with a bifurcated and declining populace at that point. Should you have kids? Sure. Do you want to get ****ed over after working 40 years? No. Is society willing to accept unwed families in Japan? No.
Japan is fine without having kids though in mass. They're using technology to fill the labor shortage. More automation in blue-collar fields and more roboticization in labor fields allows old people to do work and "no one" to do work where you required less inclined toward softskills/education "people" in the past.
Basically Japan doesn't need lots of kids. "Peak Child" hit in the 90's for Japan and they'll never have as many kids as they did back then in Japan.
South Korea is actually declining faster than Japan. Fun fact.
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Seriously though, how would any of us would have any idea of the goings on in Japanese culture?
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
Turkey is about to hit a nice fat recession for a long time for ****ing with the central banks. Their population will soon join Russia.developed nations always die out and get replaced by immigration
that has always been the case throughout history
the only reason why japan always gets such a "bad light" on them is because compared to other developed countries, they barely have any immigration
for example: avg age of japan is 47.3yrs old
avg age of switzerlandis 42.4yrs old
...avg age of germany: 47.1yrs
as we all know, germany has a very high rate of immigration
fertility rate japan: 1.44
fertility rate germany: 1.5
fertility rate switzerland: 1.54
USA is also not doing so good, with a fertility rate of 1.8
if you look at istanbul for example, most people are between 20-30yrs old, that is a huge huge difference in demographics than what we have nowadays in western society, turkey being a developing country just like the US was after WW2
that has always been the case throughout history
the only reason why japan always gets such a "bad light" on them is because compared to other developed countries, they barely have any immigration
for example: avg age of japan is 47.3yrs old
avg age of switzerlandis 42.4yrs old
...avg age of germany: 47.1yrs
as we all know, germany has a very high rate of immigration
fertility rate japan: 1.44
fertility rate germany: 1.5
fertility rate switzerland: 1.54
USA is also not doing so good, with a fertility rate of 1.8
if you look at istanbul for example, most people are between 20-30yrs old, that is a huge huge difference in demographics than what we have nowadays in western society, turkey being a developing country just like the US was after WW2
07-13-2019, 10:51 AM
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men are betas and women have high standards.
cucked by corporate overlords and aging voters into working like slaves.
no immigration.
their system is going to break so hard when these old fukkers die. the next gen finally being able to breathe will open the country for immigrants but having little experience, their immigration system will be full of loopholes and will get abused sooo hard.
cucked by corporate overlords and aging voters into working like slaves.
no immigration.
their system is going to break so hard when these old fukkers die. the next gen finally being able to breathe will open the country for immigrants but having little experience, their immigration system will be full of loopholes and will get abused sooo hard.
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No immigrants who breed to receive government aid per child and no immigrants with an ideology to take over a country by breeding like rabbits to overtake the population demographics and have 7-8 children per household.
Japanese people are also hard working so you won't find many young women getting knocked up and instead focus on career instead.
Japanese people are also hard working so you won't find many young women getting knocked up and instead focus on career instead.
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Don't they work 10-12 hours a day with little days off?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I read about it on the interwebsSeriously though, how would any of us would have any idea of the goings on in Japanese culture?
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You say no immigration likes it's a bad thing.
In 50 years japan will look just like japan. They will still have their culture and customs
north america and Europe not so much.
In 50 years japan will look just like japan. They will still have their culture and customs
north america and Europe not so much.
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
Europe already doesn't have a culture.You say no immigration likes it's a bad thing.
In 50 years japan will look just like japan. They will still have their culture and customs
north america and Europe not so much.
In 50 years japan will look just like japan. They will still have their culture and customs
north america and Europe not so much.
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
This. There's a reason Japan is the safest and cleanest country on earth.You say no immigration likes it's a bad thing.
In 50 years japan will look just like japan. They will still have their culture and customs
north america and Europe not so much.
In 50 years japan will look just like japan. They will still have their culture and customs
north america and Europe not so much.
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Ascension.
Because earth (aka the devil's playground) is just a testing ground for souls. Wanting sex and having offspring binds you to the earth. The goal on earth isn't to bring more life to it, but to ascend to the higher reality.
If you notice, it's all the good people who tend to not have kids and have less sex. They are focused on something greater.
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Because earth (aka the devil's playground) is just a testing ground for souls. Wanting sex and having offspring binds you to the earth. The goal on earth isn't to bring more life to it, but to ascend to the higher reality.
If you notice, it's all the good people who tend to not have kids and have less sex. They are focused on something greater.
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Originally Posted By 3basic5me⏩
Not that, Japanese men don't want to bother with the nagging of a feminist wife. Despite high standards women need men way more than the opposite.men are betas and women have high standards.]
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
It's reverse eugenics.Ascension.
Because earth (aka the devil's playground) is just a testing ground for souls. Wanting sex and having offspring binds you to the earth. The goal on earth isn't to bring more life to it, but to ascend to the higher reality.
If you notice, it's all the good people who tend to not have kids and have less sex. They are focused on something greater.
srs
Because earth (aka the devil's playground) is just a testing ground for souls. Wanting sex and having offspring binds you to the earth. The goal on earth isn't to bring more life to it, but to ascend to the higher reality.
If you notice, it's all the good people who tend to not have kids and have less sex. They are focused on something greater.
srs
Low impulse control dregs have loads of kids whilst the well tempered intelligent folk chase careers.
This chit is orchestrated.
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07-13-2019, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
Yep.You say no immigration likes it's a bad thing.
In 50 years japan will look just like japan. They will still have their culture and customs
north america and Europe not so much.
In 50 years japan will look just like japan. They will still have their culture and customs
north america and Europe not so much.
lol @ anyone making fun of a country who protects it's own unique culture and doesn't embrace mass third world immigration just because of the flawed notion of multiculturalism. Don't get me wrong Japan has their problems, but this is definitely not one of them.
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1st of all, a more educated and more intelligent society knows more about family planning.
Second, kids take up more room, and space in Japan is very expensive. Kids eat a lot, food is expensive. Kids require a lot of time, and most Japanese work a lot. Kids make messes, and they tend to be very clean people.
Second, kids take up more room, and space in Japan is very expensive. Kids eat a lot, food is expensive. Kids require a lot of time, and most Japanese work a lot. Kids make messes, and they tend to be very clean people.
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they eat a lot of rice so you know
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Stagnant economy, aging population, declining masculinity, young people having far less sex, rising dominance of geek culture (and I say this as someone who likes geeky chit), and so on.
We're already seeing the same problems in the US.
We're already seeing the same problems in the US.
Originally Posted By tk217⏩
They alternate on who gets the number 1 spot, and I believe this year South Korea surpassed Japan. It's kind of interesting considering how they've been rivals in more ways than one.South Korea is actually declining faster than Japan. Fun fact.
Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
Feminism is hardly the thing in Japan and the rest of Asia what it is in the US. Let's not project our own issues on other countries.Not that, Japanese men don't want to bother with the nagging of a feminist wife. Despite high standards women need men way more than the opposite.
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Originally Posted By CommonPheasant⏩
The Japanese don't stand chance without America.It’ll be fun to start another war between Japan and China, then stay out of it. I want to see what Japanese imperialism would look like in the 21st-century.
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