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post 1585065271 07-31-2019, 11:01 PM
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[QUOTE=sword_ post_id=1585064951]Bruce Lee's daughter was upset about the depiction of him.

[url]https://pagesix.com/2019/07/30/bruce-lees-daughter-upset-about-his-depiction-in-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood/[/ur]

BTW Leo and Brad had amazing on stage chemistry. Wish to see more of them together.[/QUOTE]Lee was known to be braggadocios at times, but, I understand her wanting to protect her father's legacy, though I don't think it particularly damaging to is reputation in any way.
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post 1585066551 07-31-2019, 11:45 PM
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Interesting podcast discussion, (scroll down a little ways, podcast on the left side)

https://www.theringer.com/movies/201...ntin-tarantino
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post 1585068141 08-01-2019, 12:59 AM
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Good movie, but a lot of it really dragged. The ranch scene and invasion scene were definitely the best parts. Brad Pitt's character was awesome and carried the movie
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[QUOTE=Slurgie post_id=1585064621]Yes they did.[/QUOTE]I know they did numbnuts, I’m just saying he was barely in the movie



[QUOTE=sword_ post_id=1585064781]The foot shots were annoying because every sloot had dirty ass feet. Groce ASF.

Anyways check this out guys.

[youtube]kjSJteUu20c[/youtu][/QUOTE]
It wasn’t just the dirty feet, it seems like every single shot of the movie started at someone’s foot. I think they showed every single shoe every actor wore
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post 1585111211 08-01-2019, 04:40 PM
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Article about the locations in the movie:

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/o...nk-1203284555/
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post 1585112721 08-01-2019, 05:02 PM
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I liked it. Definitely not his best work, but I feel like that's because this is more of a character-driven film rather than his usual story/plot-driven. I really liked the progression of DiCaprio's character -especially seeing the growth in his self-confidence and how it influenced the ending.

The ending was 10/10 though holy ****. Brad & Leo's chemistry was on point. I'd love to see them on screen again.
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Yeah, I agree, except this might be up there with Pulp as my favorite of his. I'll have a better idea when I see it a few more times.
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The movie was beyond excellent. If you overthink it you might not enjoy it.
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Why do people think Pitt is a good actor? He's stale in all of his roles.
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Originally Posted By SazabiBrah⏩
Why do people think Pitt is a good actor? He's stale in all of his roles.
Well, he was awesome in this.
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post 1585164511 08-02-2019, 01:04 PM
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This is pretty funny:

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post 1585517801 08-07-2019, 10:18 PM
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Perhaps a 4 hour cut coming to Netflix....Oh yes:

https://www.maxim.com/entertainment/...llywood-2019-7
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post 1586568811 08-23-2019, 11:53 PM
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Paul Thomas Anderson interviews Tarantino....fantastic conversation:

https://soundcloud.com/thedirectorsc...nderson-ep-216
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post 1586663291 08-25-2019, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By SazabiBrah⏩
Why do people think Pitt is a good actor? He's stale in all of his roles.
I thought he was way better than leo. After watching it i am no longer rustled by the fact that leo never won an oscar.

Near perfect movie, i wonder how close knit of a bond between an actor and his stuntman is embellished here lol.
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Originally Posted By SazabiBrah⏩
Why do people think Pitt is a good actor? He's stale in all of his roles.
he's just very likable. always brings charisma and charm to his roles.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩



Come discuss....
Never heard of it. I don't stay up to date with the movie game.
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I have to admit that the feet shots were a little distracting. Especially the hippie chick in Brad Pitt's car.
post 1586666561 08-25-2019, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted By zhengterry⏩
leo never won an oscar.
Yes he has.
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A lot of people that don't understand the movie probably never worked in the business. I related to leo a lot since I do film acting and have a union agent. I know the feels and what he goes through with his ups and downs.


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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
Lee was known to be braggadocios at times, but, I understand her wanting to protect her father's legacy, though I don't think it particularly damaging to is reputation in any way.
I think he came across as a giant prick, and was obviously portrayed in a purely comical way.

If Gen Z watch that movie, and have never seen anything other than that regarding Bruce Lee, they'll likely just conclude that he was a dick.
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
A lot of people that don't understand the movie probably never worked in the business.
Probably true, I got the impression that it was written for movie critics, actors and industry insiders.

There were large periods of silence, where the goal seemed to be showing 1969 Hollywood scenery.

I found the movie incredibly boring (though Leo's acting during the Western scene was mind blowingly good), and I would have walked out, but the person I was with wanted to stay.
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post 1586713231 08-26-2019, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
If Gen Z watch that movie, and have never seen anything other than that regarding Bruce Lee, they'll likely just conclude that he was a dick.
There is far too much information out there about Bruce Lee's positive impact for his portrayal in this movie to tarnish his legacy.

And as such, if some young person comes out of this movie with a negative opinion of Bruce Lee, its not the movies' fault, its their fault for being ignorant.
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enjoyed it, prob not top 3 tarantino movies for me but glad i saw it. Dicaprios scene in the trailer after messing up his line was great and enjoyed the scene with him and the little girl talking to each other. I feel like pitt had a lot of the character aldo raine coming through too maybe that was just me. Great ending and the pit was majestic as **** (pit haters suck a dick)
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
There is far too much information out there about Bruce Lee's positive impact for his portrayal in this movie to tarnish his legacy.

And as such, if some young person comes out of this movie with a negative opinion of Bruce Lee, its not the movies' fault, its their fault for being ignorant.
I wouldn't say it's their fault, because they aren't under any obligation to do research into Bruce Lee.

Gen Z in general don't watch or have much of an interest in Bruce Lee movies nor his philosophy IMO. We are both in our mid 30s, IME having conversations with Gen Z about cultural icons is eye opening. Tarantino's name carries weight though.
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I dont understand why they didnt leave out every margot robbie scene. that was unnecessary
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Originally Posted By Amleben⏩
I dont understand why they didnt leave out every margot robbie scene. that was unnecessary
Do you know about the multiple murders involving Sharon Tate, that happened?

She was playing Sharon Tate, and I believe those scenes were for 2 reasons:

1) To humanize her (and her friends), and show her as more than just a murder victim.

2) To lead the watchers to think that the movie was going to climax by showing her being massacred.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I wouldn't say it's their fault, because they aren't under any obligation to do research into Bruce Lee.

Gen Z in general don't watch or have much of an interest in Bruce Lee movies nor his philosophy IMO. We are both in our mid 30s, IME having conversations with Gen Z about cultural icons is eye opening. Tarantino's name carries weight though.
If someone makes judgements on a real person based on an artistic depiction in a movie and not the truth that is readily available to them, then yes it is their fault, they are ignorant, and willfully ignorant at that.

From an article I found last night, The Unbearable Wokeness of Tarantino’s Critics:



"One of Brody’s many bugbears is the representation of Bruce Lee, played by Mike Moh, who is humiliated in a scuffle with stuntman Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt) on the set of The Green Hornet. Shannon Lee (Bruce Lee’s daughter) has described the portrayal as ‘irresponsible’ and ‘belittling’. Former basketball player Kareem Abdul-Jabbar considers it ‘somewhat racist’. Lee biographer Matthew Polly calls it ‘inaccurate’. In reality, the scene in question is a strong comedic set piece with an impressive performance from Moh, which also happens to serve an important function in the narrative. A screen idol like Bruce Lee hardly needs to be protected from caricature, and it is surely demeaning to his legacy to suggest otherwise.

As to the question of whether or not Cliff could have bested Lee in a fight, Tarantino has this to say: ‘If you ask me the question, “Who would win in a fight: Bruce Lee or Dracula?”, it’s the same question. It’s a fictional character. If I say Cliff can beat Bruce Lee up, he’s a fictional character so he could beat Bruce Lee up.’ Unlike his woke critics, Tarantino understands the difference between art and reality."



https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/0...tinos-critics/

I recommend reading the whole thing.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
If someone makes judgements on a real person based on an artistic depiction in a movie and not the truth that is readily available to them, then yes they are ignorant, and willfully ignorant at that.
I didn't argue that they weren't ignorant, I just argued that it's not their fault if they walk away thinking negatively of Bruce Lee after watching that.

We know from the decades upon decades of evidence in advertising, that images affect people judgments (consciously or unconsciously). My argument is that if people walk away with the automatically created judgement that Bruce Lee was an arrogant prick, then it's not their fault... Because that seems to be exactly the kind of judgement of the character that Tarantino was trying to elicit.

Wether people 'should' or 'shouldn't' do further research about the character of Bruce isn't the issue that myself and his daughter bring up, it's that people often don't. So that kind of portrayal will have an affect.

No other real actor or actress depicted had that kind of caricature of themselves (if I remember right) in the movie, only Bruce, so it may not be clear to the audience that it's a caricature... More like a mockery.
From an article I found last night, The Unbearable Wokeness of Tarantino’s Critics:
I understand your perspective, I just disagree.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Wether people 'should' or 'shouldn't' do further research about the character of Bruce isn't the issue that myself and his daughter bring up, it's that people often don't. So that kind of portrayal will have an affect.


Our society and it's art should not coddle or cater to the lazy and purposefully uninformed.
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Originally Posted By Mr.PissShivers⏩
Our society and it's art should not coddle or cater to the lazy and purposefully uninformed.
'Should' is a very strong to me.

Do you believe that artists 'should' not take responsibility or be held accountable, for the potential or actual impact of their work?

Let's say an artist (which has happened historically) makes racist cartoons, depicting entire demographics as inferior and sub-human. Do you still take a lasseiz-faire attitude to those artistic depictions?

For examples of what I'm talking about, just google some of the cartoons about Jews circulating in Nazis Germany.
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