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post 1587827341 09-13-2019, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Papweboy007⏩
I just copy whatever jk202's doing.
Lol
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Lol


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post 1587827601 09-13-2019, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩


FatMatt can’t hang...
Oh ****
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Oh ****
It’s over...
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Originally Posted By NoFeels⏩
This is my point, why would anyone want to only work their chest, when there are exercises that work multiple muscles including the chest? If you do what you have proposed there, your triceps won’t be at all stimulated, so they you have to go and hit them with a ton of skullcrushers etc in order to ensure they are worked.
I know what you mean, ruining the benefits and basically the point of the compound movement. I actually do it that way now, but my bench has gone about as far as it will go natty where any further and I just get into the injury cycle, so I don't worry about strength development so much, but I'm not retarded and know I have to hit the tris properly later.
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If you want a big chest like Arnold's then you bench press, srs
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩


cliffs:
-don't do bench press and only do fly movements for maximum chest isolation and gains


thoughts?
lol he can't even do a proper fly with those light weights
horrible form on peck deck and cable flys.... chest dips look decent
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Old school bodybuilders concentrated on the bench press for size
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I'll keep benching because it's a top 3 exercise for building chest size for me.
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Originally Posted By BenMcLeodNZ⏩
I know what you mean, ruining the benefits and basically the point of the compound movement. I actually do it that way now, but my bench has gone about as far as it will go natty where any further and I just get into the injury cycle, so I don't worry about strength development so much, but I'm not retarded and know I have to hit the tris properly later.
What did you get your bench up to, and what kind of injuries brah?

A properly performed bench shouldn’t be leading to injuries, if your scapula is retracted tightly, your grip isn’t too wide, elbows tucked as much as possible, controlled eccentric, pause on chest, full lockout etc. As long as you’re adding weight slowly and in small increments, it’s a very safe exercise.
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Originally Posted By NoFeels⏩
What did you get your bench up to, and what kind of injuries brah?

A properly performed bench shouldn’t be leading to injuries, if your scapula is retracted tightly, your grip isn’t too wide, elbows tucked as much as possible, controlled eccentric, pause on chest, full lockout etc. As long as you’re adding weight slowly and in small increments, it’s a very safe exercise.
Round about 200kg at 80kg (probably could quickly drop to 78kg or less and keep full strength), at some points I feel I could have done more, but never tried, you don't really realize your peak until after you start to fall again ya know. That's reasonably heavy for natty at that weight, plus my skeletal frame is slender.

What would happen is I'd train around 155kg (reps and sets, not 1RM, obviously), then get it up to 160 or so then bam, something goes, usually rotator cuff, sometimes lower back, sometimes wrist, even the neck has been injured, then I would have time off or lightened, once back into it I'd drop down to 130kg, then there would be the pretty quick climb up to 150kg, the slow struggle back to 160kg (sometimes takes several months), and bam, happens again. I've been in that cycle for a few years now.

I think my form is pretty good, nice tempo etc and I've got to feel it's probably around my natural limit, it won't go much higher at least and if I try keep that up forever one day a big injury will come along.

Either way, I don't really feel more satisfied with life the more my bench goes up and this new training style isn't significantly weakening me so far.

But thanks for the advice fam, and you're spot on about adding in small increments, it's the only way to go.
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Originally Posted By BenMcLeodNZ⏩
Round about 200kg at 80kg (probably could quickly drop to 78kg or less and keep full strength), at some points I feel I could have done more, but never tried, you don't really realize your peak until after you start to fall again ya know. That's reasonably heavy for natty at that weight, plus my skeletal frame is slender.

What would happen is I'd train around 155kg (reps and sets, not 1RM, obviously), then get it up to 160 or so then bam, something goes, usually rotator cuff, sometimes lower back, sometimes wrist, even the neck has been injured, then I would have time off or lightened, once back into it I'd drop down to 130kg, then there would be the pretty quick climb up to 150kg, the slow struggle back to 160kg (sometimes takes several months), and bam, happens again. I've been in that cycle for a few years now.

I think my form is pretty good, nice tempo etc and I've got to feel it's probably around my natural limit, it won't go much higher at least and if I try keep that up forever one day a big injury will come along.

Either way, I don't really feel more satisfied with life the more my bench goes up and this new training style isn't significantly weakening me so far.

But thanks for the advice fam, and you're spot on about adding in small increments, it's the only way to go.
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
haha

stop bench pressing man, you don't need the compound movement that effectively works out the chest and other muscles and makes you a chit ton stronger in different lifts as well

yeah mate, righto.
What lifts does the bench press make a chit load stronger?
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I mean, I guess if it works for you then go ahead, but the BP is a fundamental compound movement.
Idk, I'm just a firm believer that compound movements (especially one of the "big 3") should never be neglected.
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Originally Posted By BenMcLeodNZ⏩
Round about 200kg at 80kg (probably could quickly drop to 78kg or less and keep full strength), at some points I feel I could have done more, but never tried, you don't really realize your peak until after you start to fall again ya know. That's reasonably heavy for natty at that weight, plus my skeletal frame is slender.

What would happen is I'd train around 155kg (reps and sets, not 1RM, obviously), then get it up to 160 or so then bam, something goes, usually rotator cuff, sometimes lower back, sometimes wrist, even the neck has been injured, then I would have time off or lightened, once back into it I'd drop down to 130kg, then there would be the pretty quick climb up to 150kg, the slow struggle back to 160kg (sometimes takes several months), and bam, happens again. I've been in that cycle for a few years now.

I think my form is pretty good, nice tempo etc and I've got to feel it's probably around my natural limit, it won't go much higher at least and if I try keep that up forever one day a big injury will come along.

Either way, I don't really feel more satisfied with life the more my bench goes up and this new training style isn't significantly weakening me so far.

But thanks for the advice fam, and you're spot on about adding in small increments, it's the only way to go.
Wow, you don’t need advice from me, I’ve never approached those numbers and have no frame of reference for the impact that has on the body. Respect.
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Originally Posted By armies⏩

Old school bodybuilders concentrated on the bench press for size
To grab attention, followers, and money in the modern fitness industry you need to be a contrarian. Stable old school “broscience” advice doesn’t cut the jibe and will not create enough noise in this saturated industry.

The greatest chest were built under the flat bench press; it’s more of a form issue than exercise issue. Proper form, controlled rep whilst doing time under tension on the flat bench will stimulate enormous growth on anyone’s chest.
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My chest sucks dik. Can never get it to grow properly at all. Such a weak spot.

I usually do something like;

Incline BB:
5 sets, 10-14 reps range, gradually increasing weight upto around 100kg for around 10-12 reps

Flat BB
Same as above

DB Flies Incline
5 sets / 10-14 reps

DB Flat Flies
Same as above

Cable Flies
Same as above.

Dunno if im just activating more shoulder/triceps to the push, or maybe cos my arms are short something like a bench press is wasted on me and I should focus more on flies?
Or maybe im just not lifting heavy enough
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I never bench press. I wait til someone else does then I proceed to eat their ass, getting their bench press nutrients and increasing my strength via neural adaptation.
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Originally Posted By LexBrah⏩
My chest sucks dik. Can never get it to grow properly at all. Such a weak spot.

Dunno if im just activating more shoulder/triceps to the push, or maybe cos my arms are short something like a bench press is wasted on me and I should focus more on flies?
Or maybe im just not lifting heavy enough
Maybe it's a form thing. I see dumbbell flies done wrong so often. Do you stretch all the way and go really deep on the way down? Do you bring your arms up in an arc like hugging a fat person instead of a pressing movement? Do you squeeze the chest muscles as you bring the weights up with each rep?

Perhaps you can keep the rep range between 8-6 on bench and 10-8 on flies with heavier weights.
What helped me personally is to hit chest a minimum of twice a week. I train it 3x a week these days since they were lagging.

Ps: If you want to develop your outer chest below the arm pit, what really helped me were dumbbell flies but keeping a 12 inch gap at the top (so not bringing them all the way together). This keeps constant tension on your chest and improved my chest by a ton.
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Originally Posted By LexBrah⏩
My chest sucks dik. Can never get it to grow properly at all. Such a weak spot.

I usually do something like;

Incline BB:
5 sets, 10-14 reps range, gradually increasing weight upto around 100kg for around 10-12 reps

Flat BB
Same as above

DB Flies Incline
5 sets / 10-14 reps

DB Flat Flies
Same as above

Cable Flies
Same as above.

Dunno if im just activating more shoulder/triceps to the push, or maybe cos my arms are short something like a bench press is wasted on me and I should focus more on flies?
Or maybe im just not lifting heavy enough
The chest is activated primarily at the very bottom of the bench press, then as you get the weight to the half way point the triceps begin to take over more and more.

Whenever I hear someone say they bench respectable weight but they can’t grow their chest, often they are not sinking the bar into their chest, holding it perfectly still for at least a second, and then exploding up. I could add 50 pounds to my bench by either skipping the bottom few inches, or bouncing the bar off my chest.

Not saying that’s you at all, I’ve never seen you bench, but if you can bench 100kg for 12 clean pause reps your chest should be looking monstrous.
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Originally Posted By NoFeels⏩
How enormous and powerful would your triceps need to be, before you want to “isolate” your chest. Surely nobody is fully content with their triceps? Same idiots then go on and do a load of triceps work
I’ve always had huge triceps and they blow up easily so I don’t hit them directly anymore.
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Yeah, that's just because twinks bring the average down
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It's not about pecs, it's not about triceps. This compound exercise is one of what I've been working at for the last 40 years.

All those hours, all those pre-workout anxieties and all those post-workout euphoria because of the passion to succeed at what I like and love the most.

Fly, machine fly!? Not even heavy dumbbell fly? OP, you are kidding me, even a rat on wheel could have a life better than that.

Doesn't matter whether one is using barbell or dumbbells, it's one of the very core of the life for every one who has a pair and still lift seriously.



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