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post 1589460711 10-10-2019, 08:29 AM
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Depends.
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Originally Posted By BulkingAkaFAT⏩
The real Krav Maga. If you can get a teacher that is of high high quality.

I'm talking EX Israeli forces or something - Then Krav Maga can be an immense tool! Basically rolls all of the Martial arts into one.
Hand picks which martial art suits the best 'Real World Scenario'
You mean the schools that cost 200.00 bucks per month? We have a couple of good schools in the area and they're crazy expensive.
Originally Posted By GainzMcgee⏩
Id say a revolver is.
This is what my BJJ instructor said. He was teaching and a classmate says "Man, you'd be great in a street fight.". He replied "why, I don't fight...That's what my CCW is for.".
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post 1589460831 10-10-2019, 08:31 AM
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It's judo. They neutralize quickly and you're usually in a close up situation when in street fights. The reason why judo is so poor in MMA is because they lack offensive takedowns, which is negated in street fights.
post 1589461251 10-10-2019, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By GainzMcgee⏩
Id say a revolver is.
Why the fuk am I trying to figure out shrimping when I can just do this. I am so dumb.
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post 1589461451 10-10-2019, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By IronProdigy⏩
It's judo. They neutralize quickly and you're usually in a close up situation when in street fights. The reason why judo is so poor in MMA is because they lack offensive takedowns, which is negated in street fights.
It’s actually cuz people don’t wear gi’s

Not wearing a gi negates a huge amount of judo techniques
post 1589461571 10-10-2019, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
It’s actually cuz people don’t wear gi’s

Not wearing a gi negates a huge amount of judo techniques
Muay Thai > Boxing in a street fight

Depends also on quality of instructors

Kicking > hands

Hands can break during a street fight
post 1589461741 10-10-2019, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
You mean the schools that cost 200.00 bucks per month? We have a couple of good schools in the area and they're crazy expensive.
Das da one.

I pay £40 a month - So bout $50 dollars cuz exchange rate it chit. I get Unlimited classes.

- Monday night - Striking (Muay Thai) 1st hour. 2nd Hour BJJ focused (Straight takedowns & grappling)
- Tuesday night - Striking (Kick Boxing)
- Wednesday - I don't train cuz leg day.
- Thursday - Purely Grappling. Torture.
- Friday - Boxing
- Saturday - "White Collar Boxing" - Where random guys off the street train for 8 weeks then fight at the end of it for charity. So it's fun to train with them....

Pretty much how my gym works. Head Coach is an ex MMA pro 19-0 Record.
Striking Coach is Current Champion of some UK Belt.
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post 1589462301 10-10-2019, 09:02 AM
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Try no touch martial arts... Thats deadly
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A mix of the common ones are always good, but according to my DT instructor, a mix of boxing, grappling (specifically the ground control techniques), krav maga and jujitsu are ideal.
post 1589462641 10-10-2019, 09:08 AM
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krav maga and its not even close.
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When I was a kid I was a boxing nut. A local neighbor kid turned me on to boxing, he was going for the golden gloves and his dad was an experienced boxer. He was big into bag work. He had the heavy bag, double end bag and speed bags. He taught me the drills and how to use each bag.

I eventually got all those bags in my basement and I used to spend hours hitting the bags, shadow boxing and etc. I read books on boxing, watched every boxing match, interviews with boxers and trainers etc.

When I turned 17 and had my own wheels I found a boxing gym and joined up. The head coach was impressed with me and I was really destroying all the other beginners. He put me in the ring in some small matches and I did pretty good. He passed me on to another guy who trained some very serious athletes. Thats when the reality of it hit me. The difference between what I was, and what some of those guys were was like throwing a bucket of cold water on my self image. I stuck it out with that group for about year, basically getting whaled on by guys who were so much better than me it was ridiculous.

The road from where I was, to where they were was a long painful one and I decided it was not a road I wanted to travel. I was already in college and had a bright future that didnt include brain injury so I quit. I still love boxing, and I have continued to work the bags on and off my entire life. It came in useful a couple of times in bar rooms, I know I carry myself a certain way knowing that I'm not a punk so in that regard it has probably influenced my life in ways that I don't even understand.

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post 1589463111 10-10-2019, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By xoyr⏩
Excluding weapons, running away etc.

I imagine it's a great way to adequately protect yourself. There's some other martial arts like Judo, Muay Thai and BJJ that would probably be pretty useful, but I don't know enough about them and IMO, I think boxing takes the cake.

Maybe I'm being idealistic, but can you imagine boxers getting confronted on the street, it must be easy work for them. And I don't even mean the big guys, relatively "small" guys, middleweights (160lbs) like Canelo and Gennady Golovkin. Again, excluding the scenario that they're confronted with weapons or seriously outnumbered.

The reason for me asking is that I'm quite an introverted and docile guy. I randomly think of these scenarios where I'm confronted and I end up being too chicken **** to defend myself against someone trying to mug me for example and then I end up either getting my ass whooped or just punked. I'm going to pick up one of these arts in the future, just wondering your opinions?
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Originally Posted By xoyr⏩
That looks pretty brutal.

But, I wouldn't want to encounter one of these guys in a dark alley

they should go UFC

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post 1589463301 10-10-2019, 09:17 AM
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Two in the chest has always been my auto, and im carrying 99% of the time
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In real life? Yes that and Muay Thai will be the best. You dont want to be in a situation thats puts you rolling on the ground with someone. That is a ticket to get stomped out and put in a coma by the guys friends.
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Depends on the skill of the attacker. Against your usual joe who can't fight very well, boxing works wonders, but against someone who's a little skilled if not more, other arts such like MMA in general should work better.
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post 1589463951 10-10-2019, 09:28 AM
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I am so scared of fighting srs
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
You mean the schools that cost 200.00 bucks per month? We have a couple of good schools in the area and they're crazy expensive.



This is what my BJJ instructor said. He was teaching and a classmate says "Man, you'd be great in a street fight.". He replied "why, I don't fight...That's what my CCW is for.".
The issue with a gun is, in order to use it it has to be deployed from it's holster and if you are in the middle of a fight you need to have strong hand to hand skills to not only keep the threat at bay long enough to deploy the weapon but also worry about not letting the other person get it first so weapon retention too.

What organizations are the schools in your area affiliated with?
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This covers it. Conceled carry is #1. Western boxing and wrestling are some of the best, that's hard to learn later in life though and you need to be in decent shape. I'd say BJJ for the average Joe office worker, you can limit damage and run the **** away (although I recently saw a BJJ get his as ls kicked 1 on 1 at a bar recently). There is no magical martial art where you're going to take on 5 guys. Most street fights are a sucker punch and/or getting jumped. From my experience my simple hs wrestling helped me the most when I got in a few scraps because it was all muscle memory and I didn't have to think. That has to be really hard to learn when you're an adult, have a job, bills, kids, etc. Its a ****ing grind. I never want to go back to another wrestling practice lol.
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post 1589464951 10-10-2019, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted By scudda⏩
I am so scared of fighting srs
I'm scared to fight too...
Nothing wrong with being afraid? - Street fights i avoid like the PLAGUE!

Age 7-14 i was fighting everyone i could. So aggressive.
18+ Been in 2 street fights - Once because a man hit his wife in front of me & last time. Was buying a pizza & some random guy headbutted me.

I fear it for 2 reasons. 1. What will i do if they pull out a knife? 2. I'm a trained fighter - What happens if i throw a punch, knock a guy out & his head hits the ground...
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Originally Posted By BulkingAkaFAT⏩
Das da one.

I pay £40 a month - So bout $50 dollars cuz exchange rate it chit. I get Unlimited classes.

- Monday night - Striking (Muay Thai) 1st hour. 2nd Hour BJJ focused (Straight takedowns & grappling)
- Tuesday night - Striking (Kick Boxing)
- Wednesday - I don't train cuz leg day.
- Thursday - Purely Grappling. Torture.
- Friday - Boxing
- Saturday - "White Collar Boxing" - Where random guys off the street train for 8 weeks then fight at the end of it for charity. So it's fun to train with them....

Pretty much how my gym works. Head Coach is an ex MMA pro 19-0 Record.
Striking Coach is Current Champion of some UK Belt.
That's some bullchit. BJJ and MMA gyms here start at 100 dollars a month. The boxing gym I go to is 50.00/month, and it's 90min per session 3x per week. If they opened a school for 50 per month here I'd be the first to sign up.
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Originally Posted By badreligion⏩
The issue with a gun is, in order to use it it has to be deployed from it's holster and if you are in the middle of a fight you need to have strong hand to hand skills to not only keep the threat at bay long enough to deploy the weapon but also worry about not letting the other person get it first so weapon retention too.

What organizations are the schools in your area affiliated with?
The school I attended was a Caique school. This guy is legit. Black belt in BJJ, and has around 10 pro fights in regional promotions. He's also around 6'3" 220 and is pretty strong.
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Some idiot is going to try this and get his ass killed.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
The school I attended was a Caique school. This guy is legit. Black belt in BJJ, and has around 10 pro fights in regional promotions. He's also around 6'3" 220 and is pretty strong.
Still doesn't change what I said about firearms.
Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩


Some idiot is going to try this and get his ass killed.
Someone who's never trained, watches that video and tries it yeah but someone who's been training in the system for a while no they wouldn't.
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Originally Posted By badreligion⏩
The people who denigrate Krav Maga have never looked into it or even taken a class. I've been training in Krav Maga for 7 years going on 8 and it is legit. It's not a martial art it just gets lumped into that category because it's easier than explaining what it is, a self defense system.
How many of them test their skills in pro MMA leagues like the UFC.
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Originally Posted By badreligion⏩
Still doesn't change what I said about firearms.



Someone who's never trained, watches that video and tries it yeah but someone who's been training in the system for a while no they wouldn't.
That's fine, but I'm sure he is better equipped at controlling distance in a fight than your average person is.
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Yeah boxing is the best. I’m biased though.

A jab followed by a straight right or a hook to the body is enough to take 99% of people out.
You learn to dodge punches and be comfortable with someone trying to hit you. You also learn to be comfortable with actually getting hit, and that you aren’t made of glass (hopefully lol).

Plus boxing is dirt cheap.
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Originally Posted By Kay4Kool⏩
Hands can break during a street fight
Bas Rutten did slaps instead of closed fists because the hand breaks in a fist.
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
How many of them test their skills in pro MMA leagues like the UFC.
Don't know but it's irrelevant because Krav Maga isn't meant for sport. There is sparring/fighting in Krav Maga training but it differs from competition fighting.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
That's fine, but I'm sure he is better equipped at controlling distance in a fight than your average person is.
I don't know him but based on what you said I agree.
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