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post 1590695941 10-30-2019, 01:32 PM
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lol, equal opportunity


My LGS that stocks CZ does not have and cannot order P10S, sold out and/or allocated. lol it's like having a political discussion with a commie...theory vs reality. In theory the gun is good, in reality, you need to be a secret squirrel hipster to get your hands on one of the 40 in existence.

Oh well, I don't need to buy anything else anyway
post 1590697471 10-30-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
lol, equal opportunity


My LGS that stocks CZ does not have and cannot order P10S, sold out and/or allocated. lol it's like having a political discussion with a commie...theory vs reality. In theory the gun is good, in reality, you need to be a secret squirrel hipster to get your hands on one of the 40 in existence.

Oh well, I don't need to buy anything else anyway
Got about a dozen of them here. Not for sale though.
post 1590698001 10-30-2019, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Got about a dozen of them here. Not for sale though.
Hoarding like 1/3 of the national supply...shame
post 1590698061 10-30-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Berts⏩
I went 2" high at 100 on my 7mm which puts me close to zero at 200 and a couple inches low at 300. Trying to take the guessing game within 300 out of the equation. I've been out deer hunting for weeks and only see Elk. I have a feeling when my deer hunt ends Thursday and my Elk starts Friday I won't see any Elk anymore, only Deer.
What ammo are you shooting out of the 7mm.
I want to hit the otc Idaho deer some time.
post 1590698691 10-30-2019, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
lol, equal opportunity


My LGS that stocks CZ does not have and cannot order P10S, sold out and/or allocated. lol it's like having a political discussion with a commie...theory vs reality. In theory the gun is good, in reality, you need to be a secret squirrel hipster to get your hands on one of the 40 in existence.

Oh well, I don't need to buy anything else anyway
I feel like that will be one of those if I ever see it in the wild, it will go home with me, whether I need to buy anything at that time or not. Sort of like the Shadow 2 that I happened across on accident.

It might take them getting that Arkansas plant up and going before we see them frequently. No clue what they plan on making there though.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
What ammo are you shooting out of the 7mm.
I want to hit the otc Idaho deer some time.
Federal 165 Sierra Gameking BTSP. I bought a case of it a couple years ago. If my hunts keep going like they have this year, that case will last me a lifetime. I've been out deer hunting for the last couple weeks, really only out hiking 5 days but have only seen Elk. Day 1 I could have shot a nice sized doe at 170 yards but didn't. It was across the river and didn't feel like dealing with that at dusk and I was solo. I'm regretting that decision as my deer ends tomorrow. I'll be out all day trying to fill that tag. I can shoot any species any sex (draw tag), at this point I'll shoot anything. My Elk starts Friday, Bull only and that was a OTC tag for unit 39. If I miss out on a draw I grab one of those. Super hard tag to fill though, its only 9 days long. Unit 39 in Idaho is basically WW3, thousands of people walking around with a rifle chasing the same thing you are. Idaho hunting has changed big time in recent years and not for the better. Way too many people hunting here now. Need to travel more I guess, get away from people. If you hunt Idaho, stay away from the southern area. Go more central, way less people. People in Boise don't like to travel or walk much so that helps if you are willing to work a little.
post 1590700841 10-30-2019, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Berts⏩
Federal 165 Sierra Gameking BTSP. I bought a case of it a couple years ago. If my hunts keep going like they have this year, that case will last me a lifetime. I've been out deer hunting for the last couple weeks, really only out hiking 5 days but have only seen Elk. Day 1 I could have shot a nice sized doe at 170 yards but didn't. It was across the river and didn't feel like dealing with that at dusk and I was solo. I'm regretting that decision as my deer ends tomorrow. I'll be out all day trying to fill that tag. I can shoot any species any sex (draw tag), at this point I'll shoot anything. My Elk starts Friday, Bull only and that was a OTC tag for unit 39. If I miss out on a draw I grab one of those. Super hard tag to fill though, its only 9 days long. Unit 39 in Idaho is basically WW3, thousands of people walking around with a rifle chasing the same thing you are. Idaho hunting has changed big time in recent years and not for the better. Way too many people hunting here now. Need to travel more I guess, get away from people. If you hunt Idaho, stay away from the southern area. Go more central, way less people. People in Boise don't like to travel or walk much so that helps if you are willing to work a little.
This is the kind of thing I think of when people say they will live off hunting game post SHTF/TEOTWAWKI
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
This is the kind of thing I think of when people say they will live off hunting game post SHTF/TEOTWAWKI
It's ok, I don't think there will be time frame or tag restrictions after SHTF/TEOTWAKI.
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
I feel like that will be one of those if I ever see it in the wild, it will go home with me, whether I need to buy anything at that time or not. Sort of like the Shadow 2 that I happened across on accident.

It might take them getting that Arkansas plant up and going before we see them frequently. No clue what they plan on making there though.
All the current P-10S's are all American made to my knowledge. They aren't made in the Czech Republic.

But yeah. CZ makes a massive line of pistols, rifles, and shotguns - almost all 100% in house (what lots of people don't know is many companies out source a LOT of their parts like slides, barrels, small misc parts, etc). Their popularity has exploded over the last 4-5 years and they simply can't make enough pistols to fill the demand.
post 1590701621 10-30-2019, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
I feel like that will be one of those if I ever see it in the wild, it will go home with me, whether I need to buy anything at that time or not. Sort of like the Shadow 2 that I happened across on accident.

It might take them getting that Arkansas plant up and going before we see them frequently. No clue what they plan on making there though.
I haven't shot my FNS9c in I don't know how long, maybe I'll get it out and pretend it's new.
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
All the current P-10S's are all American made to my knowledge. They aren't made in the Czech Republic.

But yeah. CZ makes a massive line of pistols, rifles, and shotguns - almost all 100% in house (what lots of people don't know is many companies out source a LOT of their parts like slides, barrels, small misc parts, etc). Their popularity has exploded over the last 4-5 years and they simply can't make enough pistols to fill the demand.
With Sig throwing their contractors under the bus as an excuse for their shtshow QC, and the "Springfield" Croatia pistols, and the Colt cluster ****up with the Expanse, and the cheapskates going on and on about "FN barrels bro!" when talking about PSA, probably more people than you'd think realize this on some level
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post 1590706801 10-30-2019, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Berts⏩
Federal 165 Sierra Gameking BTSP. I bought a case of it a couple years ago. If my hunts keep going like they have this year, that case will last me a lifetime. I've been out deer hunting for the last couple weeks, really only out hiking 5 days but have only seen Elk. Day 1 I could have shot a nice sized doe at 170 yards but didn't. It was across the river and didn't feel like dealing with that at dusk and I was solo. I'm regretting that decision as my deer ends tomorrow. I'll be out all day trying to fill that tag. I can shoot any species any sex (draw tag), at this point I'll shoot anything. My Elk starts Friday, Bull only and that was a OTC tag for unit 39. If I miss out on a draw I grab one of those. Super hard tag to fill though, its only 9 days long. Unit 39 in Idaho is basically WW3, thousands of people walking around with a rifle chasing the same thing you are. Idaho hunting has changed big time in recent years and not for the better. Way too many people hunting here now. Need to travel more I guess, get away from people. If you hunt Idaho, stay away from the southern area. Go more central, way less people. People in Boise don't like to travel or walk much so that helps if you are willing to work a little.
do you use binoculars set up on a tripod?

yeah your otc tags were sold out quick this year. i was looking at hunting 39 just cuz its close to boise and the flights are cheap. i can imagine it gets hammered, but i hunt units outside of phoenix i cant imagine theres any more pressure there. yeah hunting is trendy as f now. the AZ scene has blown up thanks to IG
post 1590706911 10-30-2019, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Thinking about trading in either the P365 or the Sig p320 Xcarry for that new M&P 2.0 subcompact once it drops

We M&P crew now

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u sums a bishes tuning in for the Yay-Gar live stream in about an hour?
You got a 2.0 compact...3.6" Not 4"? y tho

The 4" is an exact S&W duplicate of the Glock 19 and is therefore the best pistol possible
post 1590708831 10-30-2019, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser⏩
It's ok, I don't think there will be time frame or tag restrictions after SHTF/TEOTWAKI.
But that's the issue. An area where hunting is popular would demolish the wild game population in months, if not weeks. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry will be running outside with their guns shooting everything that moves and wasting half of it, probably. Just think of all the wild game programs that have been established over the years to try and bring populations back up so hunting seasons can be started. What brought them down? Indians with bows and arrows, black powder rifles, trapping, etc. Modern firearms and ammo with people killing to survive... sheeeet. It'll be over before it begins.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
All the current P-10S's are all American made to my knowledge. They aren't made in the Czech Republic.

But yeah. CZ makes a massive line of pistols, rifles, and shotguns - almost all 100% in house (what lots of people don't know is many companies out source a LOT of their parts like slides, barrels, small misc parts, etc). Their popularity has exploded over the last 4-5 years and they simply can't make enough pistols to fill the demand.
You mean like Sig using MIM parts from India? Unfortunately for me, no shops in my extended area even sell CZ's so anytime I want to see how it fits my hand I just buy one. It has worked well so far. Majority of people don't even know what it is when they see me shooting one at the range.
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
You mean like Sig using MIM parts from India? Unfortunately for me, no shops in my extended area even sell CZ's so anytime I want to see how it fits my hand I just buy one. It has worked well so far. Majority of people don't even know what it is when they see me shooting one at the range.
Yeah I want to try getting in to trying polymer CZ's but they are too unpopular. Nobody has them, even online ordering everybody is out of stock, nobody has mags, nobody makes holsters for them, nobody makes sights for them (not nobody, but, few and very limited choices generally).

The market is just too competitive and there are too many major players withverygood guns I don't see it changing. Obviously Glock owns all for market share and popularity and aftermarket, but S&W seems very well represented too, and also Sig and Springfield and H&K and maybe even Walther and FN are all more popular and common than the P10 series

I'll have to make do with Glock and S&W and H&K I guess. Talk aboutfirst worldUS only problem
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
All the current P-10S's are all American made to my knowledge. They aren't made in the Czech Republic.

But yeah. CZ makes a massive line of pistols, rifles, and shotguns - almost all 100% in house (what lots of people don't know is many companies out source a LOT of their parts like slides, barrels, small misc parts, etc). Their popularity has exploded over the last 4-5 years and they simply can't make enough pistols to fill the demand.
When I bought my CZ75b in like 2010, I had to explain to people constantly what the gun even was. Mind nuked how popular the brand has gotten.
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
What brought them down?
diseases from over population.
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Back in the day in really super low population density Indiana, there were a lot of deer reported by settlers.

In 1920 there were 0.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
This is the kind of thing I think of when people say they will live off hunting game post SHTF/TEOTWAWKI
Depends on your choice of End of the World game...
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Thinking about trading in either the P365 or the Sig p320 Xcarry for that new M&P 2.0 subcompact once it drops

We M&P crew now

~~M&P 2.0C 3.6 inch~~
~~M&P 2.0 FDE~~
~~M&P Shield performance center~~


u sums a bishes tuning in for the Yay-Gar live stream in about an hour?
I’ve already handled the 2.0 subcompact. Feels like dirty unwashed bum ass.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
I’ve already handled the 2.0 subcompact. Feels like dirty unwashed bum ass.
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Thinking about trading in either the P365 or the Sig p320 Xcarry for that new M&P 2.0 subcompact once it drops

We M&P crew now

~~M&P 2.0C 3.6 inch~~
~~M&P 2.0 FDE~~
~~M&P Shield performance center~~


u sums a bishes tuning in for the Yay-Gar live stream in about an hour?
Trade in both?
Hope the stream is treating you well.
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
Christ. Just as expensive as an accuracy international
Long range is not cheap
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
When I bought my CZ75b in like 2010, I had to explain to people constantly what the gun even was. Mind nuked how popular the brand has gotten.
Yeah, outside of competition guys, no one knew who the hell CZ was. Then CZ marketed the absolute fk out the Shadow 2 and P-10C and they've exploded since.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Yeah, outside of competition guys, no one knew who the hell CZ was. Then CZ marketed the absolute fk out the Shadow 2 and P-10C and they've exploded since.
VP9 vs P10C

who do you think wins
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
VP9 vs P10C

who do you think wins
Haven't we done this one already? Lol

VP9 isn't even close to the same level as the P-10C IMO.
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Thinking about trading in either the P365 or the Sig p320 Xcarry for that new M&P 2.0 subcompact once it drops
I just looked up some stuff on it.

NRApubs on YT...the NRA shoots as well as it lobbies



Left eye closed, poor grip, close both eyes before shooting, recoil errywhere. This is the best they can come up with to show off a gun? lol



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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I just looked up some stuff on it.

NRApubs on YT...the NRA shoots as well as it lobbies



Left eye closed, poor grip, close both eyes before shooting, recoil errywhere. This is the best they can come up with to show off a gun? lol



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