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post 1591014031 11-05-2019, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah
popeyes sandwich is seriously mediocre, dont waste your time.

anyway, im contemplating my 2nd firearm purchase. I currently have a 1911 .45 and now need a rifle.

Im in maryland so my options are extremely limited. My top 3 are an AR15, a Garand, and a modern replica STG44.

The STG44 is $1800 but chambered in 7.62. The garand i can get for $500. Then the AR we all know is reasonably priced.

Now, i want something with a high caliber (possibly a beowulf .50 AR) but i also kinda want something my wife and even daughter can handle just in case.

So im thinking of going with a 5.56 AR for now and then getting one of the others down the road. The STG is intriguing because AKs are illegal here and the STG is the AKs daddy anyway
That’s all over the map. If you have a good budget like that, get a BCM or Daniel Defense and put an aimpoint on it. You will not be disappointed.
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser
Mirin jizz paint job.
I like it. Reminds me of paintball guns in the late 90s/early 00s when it was awesome.
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah
popeyes sandwich is seriously mediocre, dont waste your time.

anyway, im contemplating my 2nd firearm purchase. I currently have a 1911 .45 and now need a rifle.

Im in maryland so my options are extremely limited. My top 3 are an AR15, a Garand, and a modern replica STG44.

The STG44 is $1800 but chambered in 7.62. The garand i can get for $500. Then the AR we all know is reasonably priced.

Now, i want something with a high caliber (possibly a beowulf .50 AR) but i also kinda want something my wife and even daughter can handle just in case.

So im thinking of going with a 5.56 AR for now and then getting one of the others down the road. The STG is intriguing because AKs are illegal here and the STG is the AKs daddy anyway
Go 5.556 and get a big bore later on. Your daughter will be able to shoot a 5.56 just fine
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post 1591019371 11-05-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah
popeyes sandwich is seriously mediocre, dont waste your time.

anyway, im contemplating my 2nd firearm purchase. I currently have a 1911 .45 and now need a rifle.

Im in maryland so my options are extremely limited. My top 3 are an AR15, a Garand, and a modern replica STG44.

The STG44 is $1800 but chambered in 7.62. The garand i can get for $500. Then the AR we all know is reasonably priced.

Now, i want something with a high caliber (possibly a beowulf .50 AR) but i also kinda want something my wife and even daughter can handle just in case.

So im thinking of going with a 5.56 AR for now and then getting one of the others down the road. The STG is intriguing because AKs are illegal here and the STG is the AKs daddy anyway
Like others have said, just get an 5.56 AR. It's versatile, the whole family would be able to use it, it's never going to be cheaper to get it, or parts for it.

Get a good quality one. Get a decent optic. Then buy a chit load of ammo!
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post 1591026581 11-05-2019, 12:13 PM
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My Eotech order got cancelled because they were out of stock apparently and I wasn’t going to wait.

I’m stuck home today with a sick kid and in my delirium of listening to crying I ordered an Aimpoint T2.

Think I should get a 3x magnifier for it? I always thought they were goofy and expensive but maybe?
post 1591026971 11-05-2019, 12:21 PM
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Popeye’s spicy chicken sammich: it was good but I don’t see what all the fuss is about (other than marketing). I certainly wouldn’t fight somebody over one.

For a general purpose ar, is there any reason to not get a lightweight bbl?
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Originally Posted By 28maynard
Popeye’s spicy chicken sammich: it was good but I don’t see what all the fuss is about (other than marketing). I certainly wouldn’t fight somebody over one.

For a general purpose ar, is there any reason to not get a lightweight bbl?
I know some who recommend not using a lightweight barrel as a suppressor host, but I'm not sure if it makes much of an appreciable difference in actual application.
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Originally Posted By 28maynard
Popeye’s spicy chicken sammich: it was good but I don’t see what all the fuss is about (other than marketing). I certainly wouldn’t fight somebody over one.

For a general purpose ar, is there any reason to not get a lightweight bbl?
You some kinda twink? Can’t carry around a regular one?

Think of the lost gains
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post 1591029901 11-05-2019, 01:15 PM
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For those of you with Target Sports Prime memberships, they finally have stuff under the "Prime Exclusive" part of your account.

It's a lot of bags and gun cases, but hey... there actually is stuff there sometimes!

Edit- It is all Blackhawk stuff.
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post 1591030661 11-05-2019, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser
I know some who recommend not using a lightweight barrel as a suppressor host, but I'm not sure if it makes much of an appreciable difference in actual application.
I had not thought of that, thanks.
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You some kinda twink? Can’t carry around a regular one?

Think of the lost gains
Fite me
post 1591030721 11-05-2019, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By 28maynard
Popeye’s spicy chicken sammich: it was good but I don’t see what all the fuss is about (other than marketing). I certainly wouldn’t fight somebody over one.

For a general purpose ar, is there any reason to not get a lightweight bbl?
Nope. Always LW. Even better, some type of enhanced barrel like a BCM ELW.
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how's that chicken sammich from popeyes different from the POUGH BOI?
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i say get the stg, everyones got an AR.
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Originally Posted By Meatie
how's that chicken sammich from popeyes different from the POUGH BOI?
got a bunch of coupons for wendys nuggets. fukking bomb sht son.
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
i say get the stg, everyones got an AR.
We know lol
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Just ordered 3 more S&W shield mags

think Carrying 2 in one pocket, and 2 in the other will be ample for E D C?
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Originally Posted By Meatie
Just ordered 3 more S&W shield mags

think Carrying 2 in one pocket, and 2 in the other will be ample for E D C?
You should wear 5.11 Tactical pants daily and stuff the cargo pockets with mags.
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Originally Posted By benz5521
You should wear 5.11 Tactical pants daily and stuff the cargo pockets with mags.
you ever ask a non gun guy what their EveryDay Carry is and laugh out loud when they try to explain all they have on them is their wallet, key and phone?
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lol, I found something new

https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comm...back_together/

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lmfao

must be a female police officer
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LOL . . . "did you try turning it off and back on again?"
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I mean, okay, sure, most of us have put the thing back together without the recoil spring at some point...but with the barrel upside down and protruding all out of the ejection port? like what the ****?
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That's how I run my Glocks. Lmao if you're installing it in the OEM configuration. Idiots...
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
That's how I run my Glocks. Lmao if you're installing it in the OEM configuration. Idiots...
That G34 you guys did is sick.
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So here is how I'm seeing things now

Glock
*Unbeatable size vs barrel length vs capacity for compact and sub-compact double stacks (the only match on the market to date is M&P 2.0 Compact 4" vs G19)
*Low bore axis, flat shooting,fastshooting
*Cheap, reliable magazines, both factory and aftermarket
*Best selection of accessories and aftermarket there is (holsters, sights, mods, everything)
*Easy to disassemble completely by the layman with YT and a simple punch
*Pretty good stock trigger for a practical/defensive poly pistol especially Gen 5 (I have never modified a Glock trigger and have no inclination to do so)
*As reliable and durable as they come
*Huge selection of 'the same' gun in different sizes and calibers, unmatched on the market and it's not even close
Cons: Anti-ergonomic block grip, have to pull trigger to field strip and pull tabs are more difficult to manipulate than a lever, shoots low and/or left for many people (...), grip texture is meh (bad grip texture on Gen3)

H&K VP
*Fantastic ergonomics, hand fits grip like a glove, it just feels right
*Best factory trigger of this trio, one of the best factor poly triggers out there
*Superior paddle mag release (semi-subjective, button also available so everybody's happy)
*Accurate, easiest pistol I've owned for shooting small discrete targets and hitting exactly where I want
*Shoots straight, dead on with sights physically dead center on the slide
*Take-down lever requires no trigger pull or any other step to field strip
*Stupid-reliable for me over thousands of rounds in multiple pistols, the things even perfectly feed empty spent casings as ball and dummy drill for crying out loud
Cons: Bore axis and muzzle flip, difficult to detail strip for most people especially the trigger, poor grip texture requires talons etc, limited model selection, barrels are short for physical size, mag capacity is small for size (VP9 is G17 size but G19 capacity and barrel...VP9SK 13 round is G19 size but missing two rounds and G43 barrel length)

S&W M&P 2.0
*Most aggressive and therefore best factory grip texture
*Matches Glock for size vs barrel vs capacity, which means two way tie for best on the market
*Low bore axis, flat shooting,fastshooting (just like Glock)
*Lowest purchase price
*Can be field stripped without pulling trigger
*Easy to disassemble yourself
*Pretty good grip ergonomics, doesn't feel/fit as beautifully as the VP but is definitely better than the Glock and still has Glock's bore axis
*Pretty good pistol selection, way better than the VP, but definitely behind Glock...solidly medicre
Cons: Trigger breaks too far to the rear, stock triggers are consistently the worse of any striker pistol I have owned or considered owning yes even the 2.0


Right now I'm favoring the M&P.After an Apex triggerit matches or beats Glock in everything that matters to me. Same bore axis, better ergos, better grip texture, lower price allows an Apex trigger for a better trigger without spending more really, same ease of complete disassembly, better field strip method I don't care about the extensive .40/.357/.45/10mm offerings as I pretty much just end up shooting and carrying 9mm exclusively anyway.

If I was going to do a slow fire accuracy drill or a "shoot that really small target" competition I'd take the VP9 every damn time...but practical shooting and preparing for a possible DGU it about raw speed, "accurate enough and always faster", and the faster you shoot the VP the more the low bore axis pulls ahead.

One handed shooting exacerbates the bore axis.



You can't go wrong with any of the three and several other choices too, it's a great time to be in the market for pistols because we are flooded with outstanding options, what really matters is training with your pistols, put rounds downrange oh and just say no to S*g







If you're new to the game, just get a Glock 19 or an M&P 2.0 Compact.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
So here is how I'm seeing things now

Glock
*Unbeatable size vs barrel length vs capacity for compact and sub-compact double stacks (the only match on the market to date is M&P 2.0 Compact 4" vs G19)
*Low bore axis, flat shooting,fastshooting
*Cheap, reliable magazines, both factory and aftermarket
*Best selection of accessories and aftermarket there is (holsters, sights, mods, everything)
*Easy to disassemble completely by the layman with YT and a simple punch
*Pretty good stock trigger for a practical/defensive poly pistol especially Gen 5 (I have never modified a Glock trigger and have no inclination to do so)
*As reliable and durable as they come
*Huge selection of 'the same' gun in different sizes and calibers, unmatched on the market and it's not even close
Cons: Anti-ergonomic block grip, have to pull trigger to field strip and pull tabs are more difficult to manipulate than a lever, shoots low and/or left for many people (...), grip texture is meh (bad grip texture on Gen3)

H&K VP
*Fantastic ergonomics, hand fits grip like a glove, it just feels right
*Best factory trigger of this trio, one of the best factor poly triggers out there
*Superior paddle mag release (semi-subjective, button also available so everybody's happy)
*Accurate, easiest pistol I've owned for shooting small discrete targets and hitting exactly where I want
*Shoots straight, dead on with sights physically dead center on the slide
*Take-down lever requires no trigger pull or any other step to field strip
*Stupid-reliable for me over thousands of rounds in multiple pistols, the things even perfectly feed empty spent casings as ball and dummy drill for crying out loud
Cons: Bore axis and muzzle flip, difficult to detail strip for most people especially the trigger, poor grip texture requires talons etc, limited model selection, barrels are short for physical size, mag capacity is small for size (VP9 is G17 size but G19 capacity and barrel...VP9SK 13 round is G19 size but missing two rounds and G43 barrel length)

S&W M&P 2.0
*Most aggressive and therefore best factory grip texture
*Matches Glock for size vs barrel vs capacity, which means two way tie for best on the market
*Low bore axis, flat shooting,fastshooting (just like Glock)
*Lowest purchase price
*Can be field stripped without pulling trigger
*Easy to disassemble yourself
*Pretty good grip ergonomics, doesn't feel/fit as beautifully as the VP but is definitely better than the Glock and still has Glock's bore axis
*Pretty good pistol selection, way better than the VP, but definitely behind Glock...solidly medicre
Cons: Trigger breaks too far to the rear, stock triggers are consistently the worse of any striker pistol I have owned or considered owning yes even the 2.0


Right now I'm favoring the M&P.After an Apex triggerit matches or beats Glock in everything that matters to me. Same bore axis, better ergos, better grip texture, lower price allows an Apex trigger for a better trigger without spending more really, same ease of complete disassembly, better field strip method I don't care about the extensive .40/.357/.45/10mm offerings as I pretty much just end up shooting and carrying 9mm exclusively anyway.

If I was going to do a slow fire accuracy drill or a "shoot that really small target" competition I'd take the VP9 every damn time...but practical shooting and preparing for a possible DGU it about raw speed, "accurate enough and always faster", and the faster you shoot the VP the more the low bore axis pulls ahead.

One handed shooting exacerbates the bore axis.



You can't go wrong with any of the three and several other choices too, it's a great time to be in the market for pistols because we are flooded with outstanding options, what really matters is training with your pistols, put rounds downrange oh and just say no to S*g







If you're new to the game, just get a Glock 19 or an M&P 2.0 Compact.
Looks like its time for...a new chart
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Oh yes, the G26 is also yet to be matched. It's the smallest duty capable pistol (or however you want to phrase this) available. The micro stack and a halfs are too small, short barrel, short sight radius, unproven or disproven, and no other double stack is as short and small let alone with a 3.5" barrel and Glock reliability and durability.

S&W had a shot at it, but they went with a 12+1 middling size that only manages to match a 12 round factory mag G26...doesn't get small enough to match a 10+1 G26

Most of the time the G19-M2 compact is small enough, and the M2.0 sub is close...so it's okay...but it's no G26
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[QUOTE=Farley1324 post_id=1591054901]lol, I found something new

[URL=https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comments/ds8eyw/please_help_was_putting_my_glock_back_together/]https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comm...back_together/[/URL]

[img]https://i.redd.it/dl6eo2t4pyw31.jpg[img][/QUOTE]What's great is how many people either have also done it or are contemplating doing it so they can see it for themselves and see if they can fix it.

You have a few extra Glocks, Farley. Do it. For science.
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser
What's great is how many people either have also done it or are contemplating doing it so they can see it for themselves and see if they can fix it.

You have a few extra Glocks, Farley. Do it. For science.
NGL, I considered it, for the lols, BUT, that's a G43, which I don't have, and is apparently put together differently from the double stacks so it may or may not carry over.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
NGL, I considered it, for the lols, BUT, that's a G43, which I don't have, and is apparently put together differently from the double stacks so it may or may not carry over.
Ugh. Where's Wakakaa? He'll do it.
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