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post 1593234811 12-09-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
They aren't allowed larger than 380 in semi autos in Mexico(unless you're cartel). Probably a glock 25 or some smaller caliber like 32 acp, 25 acp. etc.
interesting. thanks for sharing, hon.
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post 1593239971 12-09-2019, 08:57 PM
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Ended up deciding on the Valor Commander Limited Edition.

It was the last model Valor still available new anywhere. It also has a bull barrel, which is unique to any other DW model.

Went traditional .45 bc I don't expect to shoot it much. Want this to be a "I'm gonna go put a box through and feel special about it" gun.



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post 1593240411 12-09-2019, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Valor master race crew checking in

That just looks like a tiny square.
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post 1593240621 12-09-2019, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Valor master race crew checking in

Spoiler!
Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
That just looks like a tiny square.
fixed image
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post 1593240761 12-09-2019, 09:10 PM
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[QUOTE=Meatie post_id=1593240621][/spoiler]


fixed image[/QUOTE]Lol. Thanks Valor brah. Which model do you have?
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post 1593241021 12-09-2019, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Lol. Thanks Valor brah. Which model do you have?
almost had a BENZ attack and couldn't figure out how to upload images

this one!

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post 1593242411 12-09-2019, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
almost had a BENZ attack and couldn't figure out how to upload images

this one!

Sweet AF. Is the fit as precise as I keep hearing? Bought sight unseen.
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post 1593244441 12-09-2019, 10:20 PM
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I have a 300 blk pistol and it shoots basically the same recoil as my 5.56 16 inch upperat home defense ranges (so like inside of 15 yards). Idk why you wouldn't get a 300blk ar15 for a home defense gun. The manual of arms is the same as any other ar15, recoil is basically the same, so there's no need to train with shooting 300blk. Just train with shooting 5.56. I've put about 300-400 rounds through my 300blk pistol to function test it, various loads used. Then I have about 300 rounds of 300blk on hand

eta:

farley,

a few pages back you compared uspsa to multi ply power lifting, that's not entirely true. It would only be a true comparison for "Open" division, but not all divisions are the same in USPSA.

What's the difference between Production division, or even Carry Optics, and "duty gear"? Not a lot, mostly just the holster setup. My carry optics gun is the same as my "duty" edc. The only difference from the majority of people's production guns and a duty gun is the holster you use. So then... what's the difference between AIWB and OWB level 1 holster draw times? Like .25 - .50 seconds?
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post 1593244591 12-09-2019, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
I have a 300 blk pistol and it shoots basically the same recoil as my 5.56 16 inch upperat home defense ranges (so like inside of 15 yards). Idk why you wouldn't get a 300blk ar15 for a home defense gun. The manual of arms is the same as any other ar15, recoil is basically the same, so there's no need to train with shooting 300blk. Just train with shooting 5.56. I've put about 300-400 rounds through my 300blk pistol to function test it, various loads used. Then I have about 300 rounds of 300blk on hand
What is the over penetration probability with 300 vs 556?

I trust 556 to not kill anyone in the next room as long as I don't miss the fleshy thing I'm aiming at.
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post 1593244931 12-09-2019, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
What is the over penetration probability with 300 vs 556?

I trust 556 to not kill anyone in the next room as long as I don't miss the fleshy thing I'm aiming at.
Yeah that's probably true, idk for sure though, but it's likely it would as 300blk ballistics are very similar to 7.62x39. 300blk is (probably) going to be going through interior and exterior walls easier, probably through bodies too. That's a good reason to go with 5.56 over 300blk for home defense.
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post 1593245631 12-09-2019, 10:47 PM
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I was at a LGS picking up some undisclosed amount of undisclosed items (lol) that I purchased from black friday.

There was a dude there picking this up, he said I could take pics. He said he won it from online auction, says he likes to collect weird shiit. It's an m1a1 bullpup. Allegedly, according to the guy that won it, Israeli special forces used these? Idk lmao thing looks like some bubba desecrated a m1a1. I dry fired it and that trigger was actually amazing for a bullpup, very very surprising.

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post 1593247231 12-09-2019, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
Yeah that's probably true, idk for sure though, but it's likely it would as 300blk ballistics are very similar to 7.62x39. 300blk is (probably) going to be going through interior and exterior walls easier, probably through bodies too. That's a good reason to go with 5.56 over 300blk for home defense.
This is why I think 5.56 is the perfect home defense round. It has an amazing amount of kinetic energy, but a 55g bullet isn't going to have much left after it passes through a human. A bullet weighing 2-4x that much is going to still be going through other things. I don't want to worry about it what is behind the thing i'm shooting. If I miss the entire target everything will be a major problem. But if you're missing at 3-7 yards with an AR, I don't think Ammo selection will save you.
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post 1593247551 12-09-2019, 11:59 PM
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Reloading is the best thing ever.

Can load up a bunch of 124g bullets with 3.6g of powder and it shoots like a .22 or I can load up with 4.2g and make it feel like a defensive round.

Just lol at factory Ammo
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post 1593255511 12-10-2019, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
almost had a BENZ attack and couldn't figure out how to upload images

this one!

I thought we were special friends you SOB. : (
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That legendary Glock announcement today is the Glock 44, a .22 pistol. Ghey.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
That legendary Glock announcement today is the Glock 44, a .22 pistol. Ghey.
post 1593257161 12-10-2019, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
farley,

a few pages back you compared uspsa to multi ply power lifting, that's not entirely true. It would only be a true comparison for "Open" division, but not all divisions are the same in USPSA.

What's the difference between Production division, or even Carry Optics, and "duty gear"? Not a lot, mostly just the holster setup. My carry optics gun is the same as my "duty" edc. The only difference from the majority of people's production guns and a duty gun is the holster you use. So then... what's the difference between AIWB and OWB level 1 holster draw times? Like .25 - .50 seconds?
The main thing there would be comparing actual literal competitors to everybody-else, so take a "raw" powerlifting competition and use people who place in that to compare to regular guys who go to the gym. Applying the test that was given to everybody that carries as a sort of standard would be like taking a powerlifting competition filled with sponsored athletes/professionals and having all of your local gym rats judged by whether or not they could qualify for some big national event.

That's a standard that professionals on the level of air marshals mostly failed. It's not and never was a good test or standard for the masses.

IDK how much of a difference those holsters would be but it's not uncommon for competition to disallow carry ahead of the hip so it's clearly some kind of difference, eh? A 'level 1' holster isn't likely to qualify as a duty (or legit open carry...IMO) holster either, needs more retention. Level 1 would be like a serpa or a stand-alone ALS but those should probably still be concealed generally in public (or not worn at all in the case of the serpa)
post 1593259651 12-10-2019, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted By 28maynard⏩
Yea dawg, you’ll see soon.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Ended up deciding on the Valor Commander Limited Edition.

It was the last model Valor still available new anywhere. It also has a bull barrel, which is unique to any other DW model.

Went traditional .45 bc I don't expect to shoot it much. Want this to be a "I'm gonna go put a box through and feel special about it" gun.
Jesus. I'm convinced that literally the only reason you ask for advice is to purposely do the opposite of what everyone tells you.
post 1593261941 12-10-2019, 07:49 AM
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Man oh man. Looking to buy plates and no idea where to start. I'm suspecting someone will maybe have an xmas sale? Ceramic is the way to go it sounds. Whats a reasonable price to pay? Seems like $250ish per plate? Anyone know any current good deals?
Originally Posted By OfficerJimLahey⏩
First person charged under Florida 'red flag' law found guilty

https://www.foxnews.com/us/first-per...w-found-guilty

The first person to have his guns confiscated under Florida’s 2018 “red flag” law has been found guilty over his refusal to voluntarily surrender the weapons.

Jerron Smith, 33, now faces up to five years in prison after a jury in Broward County rejected his argument that he did not fully understand the new law. The jury returned the verdict Friday after a short trial.

Smith, of Deerfield Beach, was the subject of a risk protection order soon after the law was enacted in response to the Parkland high school mass shooting in February 2018.

Smith owned an AR-15 rifle and a .22-caliber rifle which Broward deputies seized after his arrest in March 2018 on charges of firing six shots at a vehicle being driven by his best friend, according to reports.
I don't get it... Maybe I am just not understanding the whole thing. I am against red flag laws, but how is this a red flag law thing? Dude shot at a vehicle (driven by his best friend no less) a year and a half ago. That doesn't sound like red flag law (i.e. someone called saying you're not safe) that sounds like he actually did something criminal. Who knows... didn't read the whole thing, so I'm probably missing something.

Also, lol at it being Broward County. Their police have learned from Parkland. You don't have to actually engage an active shooter if you just take everyone's guns ahead of time.
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https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g44
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g44
They say anything about the cost?
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GLock 44. .22lr pistol.

much big
very legendary
wow

brb, only ~9 years behind everyone else who has a .22lr pistol in their lineup.
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[QUOTE=Millz post_id=1593245631]I was at a LGS picking up some undisclosed amount of undisclosed items (lol) that I purchased from black friday.

There was a dude there picking this up, he said I could take pics. He said he won it from online auction, says he likes to collect weird shiit. It's an m1a1 bullpup. Allegedly, according to the guy that won it, Israeli special forces used these? Idk lmao thing looks like some bubba desecrated a m1a1. I dry fired it and that trigger was actually amazing for a bullpup, very very surprising.

brb cheek weld of peace
brb nose and eyes directly over the chamber

[img]https://i.imgur.com/VAgrlEH.jpg[/mg]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/gQW19gb.jpg[img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/FU90qMQ.jpg[img][/QUOTE]looks like a speer gat
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
You guys really dislike Commander size that much?

The last new DE Valors I can find are 4.25"
Paul Walker's character in The Fast and the Furious used a Commander 1911
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If anyone is looking at a new 22lr handgun, I'd highly recommend checking out one of these. Light weight, adjustable rear sight for both elevation and windage, ergonomics are amazing, and the trigger is seriously on the level of a PPQ. Not to mention two 16 round mags and comes with a threaded barrel adapter to run suppressed. Doubt I'd ever buy a Taurus centerfire anything, but they knocked it out of the park with this 22lr.

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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
The main thing there would be comparing actual literal competitors to everybody-else, so take a "raw" powerlifting competition and use people who place in that to compare to regular guys who go to the gym. Applying the test that was given to everybody that carries as a sort of standard would be like taking a powerlifting competition filled with sponsored athletes/professionals and having all of your local gym rats judged by whether or not they could qualify for some big national event.

That's a standard that professionals on the level of air marshals mostly failed. It's not and never was a good test or standard for the masses.

IDK how much of a difference those holsters would be but it's not uncommon for competition to disallow carry ahead of the hip so it's clearly some kind of difference, eh? A 'level 1' holster isn't likely to qualify as a duty (or legit open carry...IMO) holster either, needs more retention. Level 1 would be like a serpa or a stand-alone ALS but those should probably still be concealed generally in public (or not worn at all in the case of the serpa)
Reading your reply I think we mostly agree. Probably, we just misunderstood each other a bit. It's w/e, as of late I'm too lazy to take the time to write better haha

ETA

I'll try to get some of those targets, if not then just use ipsc targets with a and c zone. Me and my buddy will run the test from owb and iwb. My buddy will use his owb duty gear, he's an LEO
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Jesus. I'm convinced that literally the only reason you ask for advice is to purposely do the opposite of what everyone tells you.
I've been on this site for 11 years. I have about 10 people on my ignore list. Waka and linux are two of them.

It's nice, until somebody quotes them and I have to scroll more
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I've been on this site for 11 years. I have about 10 people on my ignore list. Waka and linux are two of them.

It's nice, until somebody quotes them and I have to scroll more
I have zero people on my ignore list.

What does it look like when one of them posts?
What does it look like when I quote one of them in my post? Can you see their post then?
Everything depends upon execution; having just a vision is no solution.

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