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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LXXV: It's Not the End of the World, But You Can See it From Here

post 1593466361 12-13-2019, 07:35 AM
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[QUOTE=Bo_Flecks post_id=1593465791]It's fun when they do pass the turture test, though.

[YouTube]9AX8BBBJ2Vk[YouTube][/QUOTE]I'll watch these videos when this starts getting some love:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/dEJPEIo.jpg[/img]
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post 1593466611 12-13-2019, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
He’s not a poser. I saw him at a show last year. I think I have a video of it but I won’t even attempt to post it. He makes everyone stand up and sing the pledge of allegiance before he starts a show.
i saw him about 5 years ago. cheap tickets, show was solid. no cares if he's a poser or not, i just want to be entertained. he played a little alice in chains, hootie, and pink floyd along with his stuff. he got ****ty drunk and was struggling to keep a cigarette in his mouth.
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post 1593467131 12-13-2019, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I assume HK fanboys are referring to the VP9 gauntlet video were the VP9 performed particularly ****ty and VP9 fanboys were/are upset about it still.
The backstory is that his Jeep got broken in to before this. He had 2 HK T&E guns in there that were taken. H&K made him pay for them and he was apparently pissed about it.

A lot of people think that stupid VP9 test where he was chucking it at steel targets was his retaliation against HK.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
The backstory is that his Jeep got broken in to before this. He had 2 HK T&E guns in there that were taken. H&K made him pay for them and he was apparently pissed about it.

A lot of people think that stupid VP9 test where he was chucking it at steel targets was his retaliation against HK.
Didn't know all that. I don't have a dog in this fight anyway. VP9 is a mediocre gun to me and I'll never own one.
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[QUOTE=OfficerJimLahey post_id=1593466361]I'll watch these videos when this starts getting some love:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/dEJPEIo.jpg[/mg][/QUOTE]Don't know what that means, but your call, bro. It's a fun video. And shows what a quality built AR is capable of.
post 1593471301 12-13-2019, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
Don't know what that means, but your call, bro. It's a fun video. And shows what a quality built AR is capable of.
oh i just love to plug hi-point whenever i can. i do want to buy one and see what kind of beating it can handle.
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post 1593493011 12-13-2019, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By OfficerJimLahey⏩
i saw him about 5 years ago. cheap tickets, show was solid. no cares if he's a poser or not, i just want to be entertained. he played a little alice in chains, hootie, and pink floyd along with his stuff. he got ****ty drunk and was struggling to keep a cigarette in his mouth.
He does a pretty good version of nutshell by AIC. Starts at about 3:45

post 1593494501 12-13-2019, 02:34 PM
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Left work early and time to kill again so went to the range. Didn’t have my stuff so grabbed a gen 4 34. I’ve owned and shot a lot of Glocks and this had the crispest Glock trigger I’ve seen. Probably just has thousands of rounds on it But no creep. Really weird. I wanted to buy it.

I’ve been avoiding shooting the Wilsons again because I know I’ll want one. Old guy next to me was shooting his nighthawk.

The 34 made me want to build up another one again. Not sure if I’ll get a gen 4 or gen 5 but all they need are sights, new guide rod and a 13lb or whatever spring you like, and a 4.5lb striker spring.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I'd guess referencing his first VP9 video where he was basically a petulant child who got mad after his very unscientific drop it in the mud and step on it test didn't go well so he started throwing it at stuff and even complained that what was it a charging protrusion or mag lever or something broke when he threw it into a steel plate.

But that wasn't "rigged" that was just stupid and mostly irrelevant and criticism for that is exactlywhyhe started doing the gauntlet which was very controlled and consistent and fair between guns (and not all guns performed equally there of course...and now there's no room to complain about the process)
Didn't he end up doing a 2nd test of a different VP9 he received and it also failed with similar results? Can't remember if that was in the gauntlet as we know it now or still the creek style. Of course there have been other users do the same thing in youtube vids where it does really well. Also not exactly something I'd base my decision to purchase a gun. Sure I'd like my guns to be able to be dropped into the dirt/sand/mud and function, but literally burying it is slightly overkill.
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Originally Posted By ctprelude⏩
Didn't he end up doing a 2nd test of a different VP9 he received and it also failed with similar results? Can't remember if that was in the gauntlet as we know it now or still the creek style. Of course there have been other users do the same thing in youtube vids where it does really well. Also not exactly something I'd base my decision to purchase a gun. Sure I'd like my guns to be able to be dropped into the dirt/sand/mud and function, but literally burying it is slightly overkill.
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post 1593501531 12-13-2019, 05:04 PM
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Yeager posted a dumb video today about bullet selection. He was saying you should be getting 90g bullets for short barrel 9mms.

Meanwhile, data and ammo manufacturers show 147 being better because it loses less velocity and gives better penetration.

There’s a reason why Federal makes HST in 150g for short barrels. But what do they know?
post 1593502611 12-13-2019, 05:26 PM
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buncha hot headed H&K cultists ITT
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ive always been down with aaron lewis. especially when i read that he blazes an 8th a day.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
He was saying you should be getting 90g bullets for short barrel 9mms.

Meanwhile, data and ammo manufacturers show 147 being better because it loses less velocity
how many yards out is the 147 before its going faster than the 90
post 1593510491 12-13-2019, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
ive always been down with aaron lewis. especially when i read that he blazes an 8th a day.
Ever seen his hunting show? He’s cool as chit.
post 1593514121 12-13-2019, 09:25 PM
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Bought 500 rounds of 556 62 gr and 1k rounds of 115 gr Federal Brass 9mm for $180. Not bad.
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post 1593514901 12-13-2019, 09:44 PM
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What’s all this about the VP9?
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post 1593515661 12-13-2019, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted By MoeBettuh⏩
What’s all this about the VP9?
the tupper ware EuRoPeAn MaG releases fell off after MAC lightly dropped it on the groudn
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post 1593524061 12-14-2019, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
how many yards out is the 147 before its going faster than the 90
I think that he was talking about muzzle velocity loss per inch of barrel.
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post 1593524721 12-14-2019, 06:48 AM
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Anybody have any experience with roller delayed blowback guns? I was hoping to pick up one of those stribog sp9a3's when they are approved by the atf. Estimates are showing mid-late 2020 for approval. I would assume it will end up being the later in 2020 since our gov doesn't do anything fast.

So basically these newer pistols won't be releasing until peak election time which is usually panic mode. If the dems take control of the senate and/or the presidency then it will likely be a repeat of 2012/2013 in terms of panic buying. My dilemma is do I wait until the SP9A3 with roller delayed comes out and hope I'll actually be able to find one in peak election time or do I just buy a Gen 2(straight blowback) now that doesn't have the roller delayed?

TLDR; Is roller delayed blowback a gamechanger worth waiting for in peak election time or is the diference small compared to straight blowback?
post 1593525291 12-14-2019, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
Anybody have any experience with roller delayed blowback guns? I was hoping to pick up one of those stribog sp9a3's when they are approved by the atf. Estimates are showing mid-late 2020 for approval. I would assume it will end up being the later in 2020 since our gov doesn't do anything fast.

So basically these newer pistols won't be releasing until peak election time which is usually panic mode. If the dems take control of the senate and/or the presidency then it will likely be a repeat of 2012/2013 in terms of panic buying. My dilemma is do I wait until the SP9A3 with roller delayed comes out and hope I'll actually be able to find one in peak election time or do I just buy a Gen 2(straight blowback) now that doesn't have the roller delayed?

TLDR; Is roller delayed blowback a gamechanger worth waiting for in peak election time or is the diference small compared to straight blowback?
Just buy the new HK.

I think that the pricing on the RDB Stribog is supposed to be close to the new HK.
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post 1593525601 12-14-2019, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Just buy the new HK.

I think that the pricing on the RDB Stribog is supposed to be close to the new HK.
HK will be a little north of 2k. Stribog is like $675. I don't see RDB almost tripling the price. The conversion over to RDB isn't rocket surgery, some guy on arfcom did it himself in his work shop. I doubt it will even be $1000.
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
HK will be a little north of 2k. Stribog is like $675. I don't see RDB almost tripling the price. The conversion over to RDB isn't rocket surgery, some guy on arfcom did it himself in his work shop. I doubt it will even be $1000.
I thought that I'd read close to 2k
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post 1593531031 12-14-2019, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I assume HK fanboys are referring to the VP9 gauntlet video were the VP9 performed particularly ****ty and VP9 fanboys were/are upset about it still.
thats funny, because its perfectly reasonable to think that if you jam a semi auto pistol full of sand and mud it will continue to work 100% forever.
Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
Anybody have any experience with roller delayed blowback guns? I was hoping to pick up one of those stribog sp9a3's when they are approved by the atf. Estimates are showing mid-late 2020 for approval. I would assume it will end up being the later in 2020 since our gov doesn't do anything fast.

So basically these newer pistols won't be releasing until peak election time which is usually panic mode. If the dems take control of the senate and/or the presidency then it will likely be a repeat of 2012/2013 in terms of panic buying. My dilemma is do I wait until the SP9A3 with roller delayed comes out and hope I'll actually be able to find one in peak election time or do I just buy a Gen 2(straight blowback) now that doesn't have the roller delayed?

TLDR; Is roller delayed blowback a gamechanger worth waiting for in peak election time or is the diference small compared to straight blowback?
roller delayed blowback guns are bad ass, especially the HK94/MP5 variants. youre right about the timing of banics and relative pricing of HK MP5s though. if i were in the position of wanting to buy an MP5 id get a high quality clone now and try to get an HK when they become available.

from what i understand POF is good to go. Zenith is even better but i dont think those are easily available. Vector makes good HK91, HK93 and HK94 variants too.

PTR HK91s are quality and id imagine their HK94s are good too, but i havent really looked into it.
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You think you can say all that about OG HK roller delayed guns without posting some OG rap music?

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[QUOTE=Meatie post_id=1593532001]You think you can say all that about OG HK roller delayed guns without posting some OG rap music?

[youtube]lsJLLEwUYZM[youtube][/QUOTE]for what its worth i was listening to this song while talking about MP5s

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/XVBl8H49ef0[/youtube]

1994 style OG music

btw, all this talk about banics and banic pricing bothered me, so i placed an order for two of those 20" windham weaponry A1 uppers

[img]https://i.imgur.com/NbmTW9E.jpg[/img]

now all i need is two 16" FN uppers and a fukton more ammo.

that and a glock model 44
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
for what its worth i was listening to this song while talking about MP5s



1994 style OG music
you know what gif goes to the same beat of that song?

this one

Spoiler!
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
you know what gif goes to the same beat of that song?

this one

Spoiler!
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Did some side by side shopping today at Honda. Was looking at the Pioneer 700 and 1000s. The 1000 is badass but it’s huge and like $22k out the door. I like the smaller footprint of the 700 but that’s still like 17k. Kind of hesitant to get one though just because they are so much. Seems like it can’t be worth it. I dunno.

Think my wife was shopping for Xmas for me too though because it came out that she was emailing the same salesperson about a CRF450L. Something like that seems worth the cash to me. It’s basically a street legal motocross bike for like $10k.

Stopped at the range too and blasted a few mags out of the AR because I put a new buffer and spring in it and wanted to test it.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Just buy the new HK.

I think that the pricing on the RDB Stribog is supposed to be close to the new HK.
Mounting options are dildos if a LAM is required. That's what has always kept me from buying an mp5.
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