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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LXXV: It's Not the End of the World, But You Can See it From Here

post 1593748881 12-17-2019, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
yea thats what i would want. External safety, decocker, double action
You don't know what you want. You don't know what any of this is, how any of this works, what the pros and cons are, you don't know what you want.

And what you just said you want kind of doesn't exist.

Get training before you buy a gun. Rent/borrow for the classes. Start watching hickok45 videos on every specific gun you are interested in and take the suggested videos to spin off from there.
post 1593748951 12-17-2019, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
You don't know what you want. You don't know what any of this is, how any of this works, what the pros and cons are, you don't know what you want.

And what you just said you want kind of doesn't exist.

Get training before you buy a gun. Rent/borrow for the classes. Start watching hickok45 videos on every specific gun you are interested in and take the suggested videos to spin off from there.
wanna hear something crazy? hickock was actually my 7th grade literature teacher in high school haha..we are both from nashville
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post 1593749101 12-17-2019, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
wanna hear something crazy? hickock was actually my 7th grade literature teacher in high school haha..we are both from nashville
Call him or find somebody you both know that can put you in contact and tell him you need direction because you want a pistol and don't have a clue WTF is going on, get a recommendation for somebody local for some instruction and then go get it
post 1593749141 12-17-2019, 03:16 PM
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post 1593749431 12-17-2019, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Lots of guys actually carry 1911's with safety off since it has a grip safety.

Manual safeties on carry guns are a dumb/bad idea. Period. If you can carry it hammer down, safety off, that's fine. But hammer back with safety on is fking retarded.
The manual safety is going down on my 1911 as its being pushed forward. It's ingrained. At that point the only thing between the muzzle and the target is 3lbs.
post 1593749441 12-17-2019, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
wild bill hickock was my dad
You changed dads? Pretty crazy stuff
post 1593749711 12-17-2019, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
if i pull the top back to cock the gun...and the bullet is in the chamber...and i dont want to fire it...how can i decock the gun so it wont go off if i pull the trigger...is that even possible? the bullet will have to go back in the clip
Under no circumstances whatsoever should you EVER desire to even put your finger on the trigger of a loaded gun unless you intend for it to go bang. A manual safety (which can be had on any type of trigger system) will lock the trigger from firing the gun, though you should still not fuk with the trigger, even while a safety is engaged, on a loaded gun (or one that you don't positively KNOW is unloaded).
Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
yea thats what i would want. External safety, decocker, double action
I assume you mean double/single action since a double action only wouldn't have a decocker.

And I thought I did too. Bought a USP as my first gun. I'm not necessarily upset about that decision, but I really don't use the gun for much anymore. Once you realize you can be disciplined not to touch the trigger unnecessarily, you start to feel like a safety is mostly unnecessary. And double action trigger pull is aids.

Though for a gun I didn't carry on myself, it was nice not having to worry about a holster for a gun with a decocked hammer and a manual safety.
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post 1593749811 12-17-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
yea thats what i would want. External safety, decocker, double action
Money doesn't seem to be much of an issue with you so what I would suggest is getting a mid grade 1911 (springfield or similar) and a either a beretta 92 or a CZ with a decocker. Play around with both and see which you like more. The great thing about guns is that they hold value extremely well so if you don't like it just sell it
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post 1593749821 12-17-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
You changed dads? Pretty crazy stuff
yes, youre james yaegers son arent you?
post 1593750061 12-17-2019, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
yes, youre james yaegers son arent you?
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post 1593752791 12-17-2019, 04:13 PM
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My 2.0c 3.6 has a ThUmB SaFeTy. the gun shop fuked up and ordered the wrong one and they said they'd give me a discount if I just buy it and not bitch about it. so I bought it

Pro is that you can ride your thumb over the safety and get your grip high on the gun like you could a 1911

con is you look like a boomer fudd and people look at you funny at the range
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post 1593752921 12-17-2019, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
con is you look like a boomer fudd and people look at you funny at the range
Just outshoot their ass and that look goes away very quickly.
post 1593753441 12-17-2019, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
Just outshoot their ass and that look goes away very quickly.
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post 1593755301 12-17-2019, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
My 2.0c 3.6 has a ThUmB SaFeTy. the gun shop fuked up and ordered the wrong one and they said they'd give me a discount if I just buy it and not bitch about it. so I bought it

Pro is that you can ride your thumb over the safety and get your grip high on the gun like you could a 1911

con is you look like a boomer fudd and people look at you funny at the range
Not sure if srs or not but if you are, you can remove the safety easily and its then the exact same internally as the non safety models. If you call S&W they'll sell you the little grip plug that fills the spot in the frame where the safety was too.
post 1593757821 12-17-2019, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Yeah, that's kind of the point.

If you plan on pulling the trigger on a loaded gun and having it not shoot, you probably shouldn't have guns
it's more for UNplanned trigger pulls, by yourself or someone else.
I own firearms with and without a manual safety, and I prefer with, and always use them unless there is a half-cock. Is it necessary? No. I get the arguments against it and it's completely fine if you don't want one.
Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
i will the local gun store offers a 3 hour class for $60...they teach us how to load, unload, and fire handguns
do this first.
then try out multiple at a range before you buy. There's more to consider than a manual safety and looking cool.
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post 1593758101 12-17-2019, 05:59 PM
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My daughter just got her acceptance letter to University of Denver . . .



and with $6k/year more in scholarship money than her brother. That will be a little less ramen I'll have to eat.
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post 1593761181 12-17-2019, 06:53 PM
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By the way, random question but why in debates does everyone anti gun say there needs to be universal background checks...dont we pretty much already have those?
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
post 1593761691 12-17-2019, 07:02 PM
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So my day started off pretty ****ty.

Spun out during a lane change from left lane to right in icy conditions.

Hit guardrail on right shoulder with my front bumper, car spun 180 so I got a cool view of the oncoming traffic that was going to hit me.

Hit right shoulder guard rail with my rear bumper going backwards, bounced off again and was (mercifully) only clipped by another car in the rear as I hit the concrete guard rail on the left shoulder.

Mercifully, no one was injured, and the icy conditions kept the car sliding mostly forward down the road as I pinballed off the guardrails so that I didn't get T-Boned on the driver's side.

Sucks. We'll have to find out if the Cherokee will ride again...
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post 1593762051 12-17-2019, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
By the way, random question but why in debates does everyone anti gun say there needs to be universal background checks...dont we pretty much already have those?
We, as in the federal government, and as in the majority of the states, do not.

What they mean by "universal background check" is a prohibition on buying, selling, trading, or otherwise transferring possession of something you supposedly own, unless you get (and pay for) prior written authorization from the federal government along with some convenient record keeping. In most of the country it is generally legal to, you know, sell or trade or give items that you own, including firearms, to other people, as long as you have no reason to believe they are not a prohibited person (meaning, as long as you have no reason to believe they cannot legally possess a firearm).

There is no justification whatsoever for requiring a government permission slip + record keeping to buy or sell a firearm (this is already a requirement when you buy from any store or dealer and is required for all transfers that cross state lines).

As a side effect, this would effectively register every firearm manufactured after it went into effect as well as every firearm lawfully transferred after it went into effect. Reason, the .gov could trace the firearm to the last person that received it in a transfer and that person would have to either provide the firearm or be considered guilty of transferring it without filing and paying for the proper government permission slips. Very obviously the intent is to turn the so called UBC into registration (as if UBC, which is nothing but infringement that costs time and money and makes acquiring or owning firearms more difficult wasn't bad enough outright)

This is the often lied about "gun show loophole", which is not a loophole in any way, the laws are no different at a gun show than they are anywhere else or any time else within that state (or if they are different, they are more restrictive)
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
My daughter just got her acceptance letter to University of Denver . . .



and with $6k/year more in scholarship money than her brother. That will be a little less ramen I'll have to eat.
Congrats on having a daughter that got her smarts from her mother


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Originally Posted By 28maynard⏩
Congrats on having a daughter that got her smarts from her mother
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post 1593763181 12-17-2019, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
By the way, random question but why in debates does everyone anti gun say there needs to be universal background checks...dont we pretty much already have those?
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trump appointed a gun friendly judge to the 9th circuit.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/two...ornia-senators

http://www.fxrgc.org/index.cfm?Secti...m=240&titles=0
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Any solid deals right now on semi auto ar-15 style .308 components or assembled guns? Aeroprecision seems to be out of nearly everything.
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
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thank me later.
where can u find it for 30 dollars?
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
where can u find it for 30 dollars?
https://stlccw.com/product-category/books/
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are these rounds unsafe to use? .40 S&W 165gr, so there's room but... over-pressure?

edit: specifically the top 4 in the pic. The next 5 I think are ok. The bottom one is seated correctly for comparison.

edit2: decided not to use the top 4 because I'm not trying to save 10 cents. lol. still want to know out of curiosity.

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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
edit2: decided not to use the top 4 because I'm not trying to save 10 cents. lol. still want to know out of curiosity.
I think this is the right choice. $.10 vs blowing up your gun (hand?) is a good choice. The SAAMI minimum/maximum cartridge OAL(over all length) for 40 S&W is 1.085"/1.135".
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Any better 9mm prices than Target Sports? Lawman 115gr for $165/case shipped.
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
are these rounds unsafe to use? .40 S&W 165gr, so there's room but... over-pressure?

edit: specifically the top 4 in the pic. The next 5 I think are ok. The bottom one is seated correctly for comparison.

edit2: decided not to use the top 4 because I'm not trying to save 10 cents. lol. still want to know out of curiosity.

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If you can see the bullet setback with the naked eye, it's not worth the risk to shoot. When in doubt, don't.

The pic alone probably isn't enough info to say for sure, either. Hell, shooting them and not getting a KB still might not be enough to say for sure that they are safe to shoot (could be a lot of additional wear/tear or could be the next one breaks something)
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