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12-23-2019, 10:15 AM
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12-23-2019, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
Hope you make a chit ton of money. My guess is next year a complete Geissele rifle will be around 5kI got everything ordered that I need for a gucci Geissele 11.5" pistol build, except optics/sights... and probably none of it will be in my hands for another month or so because Geissele is swamped.Goal for next year Black Friday is to be ready to buy at least 1 or 2 complete super duty rifle from Geissele and or 1 complete super duty/urgi upper.
Not sure what optic I'm going to use for this 11.5". Either Aimpoint T2, Eotech XPS3, or Trijicon MRO. I'm leaning more towards the MRO just because $, but I guess the parallax isn't very good on it. I already have an Aimpoint T1 that I've had for like 7 years, but I have that in use on my 300blk hd pistol.
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I need to set up a trust and finally pull the trigger on a suppressor or two soon. Definitely going to get a surefire socom rc2, maybe the mini version. Might SBR a lower or two, but will still have one or two pistol lowers and one or two rifle lowers as well.
Not sure what optic I'm going to use for this 11.5". Either Aimpoint T2, Eotech XPS3, or Trijicon MRO. I'm leaning more towards the MRO just because $, but I guess the parallax isn't very good on it. I already have an Aimpoint T1 that I've had for like 7 years, but I have that in use on my 300blk hd pistol.
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I need to set up a trust and finally pull the trigger on a suppressor or two soon. Definitely going to get a surefire socom rc2, maybe the mini version. Might SBR a lower or two, but will still have one or two pistol lowers and one or two rifle lowers as well.
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12-23-2019, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
Eotech gets my recommendation. Just so damn fast to pick up and get quick hits on target, and I prefer the 1 MOA dot for when shooting out further. Added benefit I think they also look the best, which is of course very important when posting pics online for validation.I got everything ordered that I need for a gucci Geissele 11.5" pistol build, except optics/sights... and probably none of it will be in my hands for another month or so because Geissele is swamped. Goal for next year Black Friday is to be ready to buy at least 1 or 2 complete super duty rifle from Geissele and or 1 complete super duty/urgi upper.
Not sure what optic I'm going to use for this 11.5". Either Aimpoint T2, Eotech XPS3, or Trijicon MRO. I'm leaning more towards the MRO just because $, but I guess the parallax isn't very good on it. I already have an Aimpoint T1 that I've had for like 7 years, but I have that in use on my 300blk hd pistol.
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I need to set up a trust and finally pull the trigger on a suppressor or two soon. Definitely going to get a surefire socom rc2, maybe the mini version. Might SBR a lower or two, but will still have one or two pistol lowers and one or two rifle lowers as well.
Not sure what optic I'm going to use for this 11.5". Either Aimpoint T2, Eotech XPS3, or Trijicon MRO. I'm leaning more towards the MRO just because $, but I guess the parallax isn't very good on it. I already have an Aimpoint T1 that I've had for like 7 years, but I have that in use on my 300blk hd pistol.
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I need to set up a trust and finally pull the trigger on a suppressor or two soon. Definitely going to get a surefire socom rc2, maybe the mini version. Might SBR a lower or two, but will still have one or two pistol lowers and one or two rifle lowers as well.
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12-23-2019, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
double tappedI got everything ordered that I need for a gucci Geissele 11.5" pistol build, except optics/sights... and probably none of it will be in my hands for another month or so because Geissele is swamped. Goal for next year Black Friday is to be ready to buy at least 1 or 2 complete super duty rifle from Geissele and or 1 complete super duty/urgi upper.
Not sure what optic I'm going to use for this 11.5". Either Aimpoint T2, Eotech XPS3, or Trijicon MRO. I'm leaning more towards the MRO just because $, but I guess the parallax isn't very good on it. I already have an Aimpoint T1 that I've had for like 7 years, but I have that in use on my 300blk hd pistol.
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I need to set up a trust and finally pull the trigger on a suppressor or two soon. Definitely going to get a surefire socom rc2, maybe the mini version. Might SBR a lower or two, but will still have one or two pistol lowers and one or two rifle lowers as well.
Not sure what optic I'm going to use for this 11.5". Either Aimpoint T2, Eotech XPS3, or Trijicon MRO. I'm leaning more towards the MRO just because $, but I guess the parallax isn't very good on it. I already have an Aimpoint T1 that I've had for like 7 years, but I have that in use on my 300blk hd pistol.
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I need to set up a trust and finally pull the trigger on a suppressor or two soon. Definitely going to get a surefire socom rc2, maybe the mini version. Might SBR a lower or two, but will still have one or two pistol lowers and one or two rifle lowers as well.
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12-23-2019, 11:04 AM
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About to put my order in...anyone know the difference between these 2 firearms? Both are 92fs compacts..but different price points as u can see..one clearly states it was for a military contract...does that mean it is higher quality?
https://gunprime.com/product/beretta...-fs-js92f850m/
https://gunprime.com/products/berett...25-13rd-rail-3
https://gunprime.com/product/beretta...-fs-js92f850m/
https://gunprime.com/products/berett...25-13rd-rail-3
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12-23-2019, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
Looks like the lower price is just because they were apparently able to grab a few at a lower cost than is typical, and that it has the extra roll mark that not everyone would love. Shouldn't be any difference in quality.About to put my order in...anyone know the difference between these 2 firearms? Both are 92fs compacts..but different price points as u can see..one clearly states it was for a military contract...does that mean it is higher quality?
https://gunprime.com/product/beretta...-fs-js92f850m/
https://gunprime.com/products/berett...25-13rd-rail-3
https://gunprime.com/product/beretta...-fs-js92f850m/
https://gunprime.com/products/berett...25-13rd-rail-3
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12-23-2019, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By ctprelude⏩
first one is made in italy..dont see that on the other modelLooks like the lower price is just because they were apparently able to grab a few at a lower cost than is typical, and that it has the extra roll mark that not everyone would love. Shouldn't be any difference in quality.
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
12-23-2019, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Who knows what will change in a year, especially since it will be right after a major election.
But, my wish list is already topped by an 11.5" Geissele Super Duty upper with Trijicon MRO even though I absolutely don't need one. What I should really do one of these days is pick some kind of .30 'battle rifle' and go into that
But, my wish list is already topped by an 11.5" Geissele Super Duty upper with Trijicon MRO even though I absolutely don't need one. What I should really do one of these days is pick some kind of .30 'battle rifle' and go into that
Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Do you guys say this because you think Geissele will raise prices? Or do you say this just because supply and demand?Hope you make a chit ton of money. My guess is next year a complete Geissele rifle will be around 5k
I don't think Geissele will raise prices, just better be ready to buy instant their sales goes live.
Originally Posted By ctprelude⏩
I'm still not sure, need to try using Eotech.Eotech gets my recommendation. Just so damn fast to pick up and get quick hits on target, and I prefer the 1 MOA dot for when shooting out further. Added benefit I think they also look the best, which is of course very important when posting pics online for validation.
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12-23-2019, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
You just said the same thing two different ways.Do you guys say this because you think Geissele will raise prices? Or do you say this just because supply and demand?
I don't think Geissele will raise prices, just better be ready to buy instant their sales goes live.
I'm still not sure, need to try using Eotech.
I don't think Geissele will raise prices, just better be ready to buy instant their sales goes live.
I'm still not sure, need to try using Eotech.
Supply and demand could dictate prices go up. Or, "Out of Stock"
Unfortunately most people are completely retards and don't understand even a tiny bit of basic economics and would rather see a regular price that is out of stock (which is essentially the same as a $10,000,000 price tag to us) than in stock and available but at a higher price. Now, I'm not saying anybody should go for CTD and charge $99 for a 30 round USGI AR mag...but if demand skyrockets (always possible after an election), pricesshouldgo up. People buying their 10th rifle are less likely to do so when prices rise to match demand, people buying their first with uncertain near term political happenings may well benefit from the availability of a higher pried rifle.
/rant
Say the election goes too far left and Geissele does not raise prices...then either you won't be able to get them (there won't be a black friday sale because they will already be OOS) or you'll have to pay a middle man markup on gunbroker etc
12-23-2019, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
DudududeSounds like a total bitch
I saw her in line at lunch today. she was wearing tight jeans so tight they gave her a perma wedgy
She looked over at me then quickly looked down and her face turned red
What do you think was going through her mind?
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12-23-2019, 04:58 PM
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If only these things actually happened
12-23-2019, 04:59 PM
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12-23-2019, 05:00 PM
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12-23-2019, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
I say this without bias, get a Kahles K16iI got everything ordered that I need for a gucci Geissele 11.5" pistol build, except optics/sights... and probably none of it will be in my hands for another month or so because Geissele is swamped. Goal for next year Black Friday is to be ready to buy at least 1 or 2 complete super duty rifle from Geissele and or 1 complete super duty/urgi upper.
Not sure what optic I'm going to use for this 11.5". Either Aimpoint T2, Eotech XPS3, or Trijicon MRO. I'm leaning more towards the MRO just because $, but I guess the parallax isn't very good on it. I already have an Aimpoint T1 that I've had for like 7 years, but I have that in use on my 300blk hd pistol.
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I need to set up a trust and finally pull the trigger on a suppressor or two soon. Definitely going to get a surefire socom rc2, maybe the mini version. Might SBR a lower or two, but will still have one or two pistol lowers and one or two rifle lowers as well.
Not sure what optic I'm going to use for this 11.5". Either Aimpoint T2, Eotech XPS3, or Trijicon MRO. I'm leaning more towards the MRO just because $, but I guess the parallax isn't very good on it. I already have an Aimpoint T1 that I've had for like 7 years, but I have that in use on my 300blk hd pistol.
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I need to set up a trust and finally pull the trigger on a suppressor or two soon. Definitely going to get a surefire socom rc2, maybe the mini version. Might SBR a lower or two, but will still have one or two pistol lowers and one or two rifle lowers as well.
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12-23-2019, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
If putting an optic on it, go SCAR17 or AR10.Who knows what will change in a year, especially since it will be right after a major election.
But, my wish list is already topped by an 11.5" Geissele Super Duty upper with Trijicon MRO even though I absolutely don't need one. What I should really do one of these days is pick some kind of .30 'battle rifle' and go into that
But, my wish list is already topped by an 11.5" Geissele Super Duty upper with Trijicon MRO even though I absolutely don't need one. What I should really do one of these days is pick some kind of .30 'battle rifle' and go into that
If you just want 30 cal w/ irons, a PTR91 is probably the way to go.
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12-23-2019, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
What I mean, and I'll take a bit more time to expound, is...You just said the same thing two different ways.
Supply and demand could dictate prices go up. Or, "Out of Stock"
Unfortunately most people are completely retards and don't understand even a tiny bit of basic economics and would rather see a regular price that is out of stock (which is essentially the same as a $10,000,000 price tag to us) than in stock and available but at a higher price. Now, I'm not saying anybody should go for CTD and charge $99 for a 30 round USGI AR mag...but if demand skyrockets (always possible after an election), pricesshouldgo up. People buying their 10th rifle are less likely to do so when prices rise to match demand, people buying their first with uncertain near term political happenings may well benefit from the availability of a higher pried rifle.
/rant
Say the election goes too far left and Geissele does not raise prices...then either you won't be able to get them (there won't be a black friday sale because they will already be OOS) or you'll have to pay a middle man markup on gunbroker etc
Supply and demand could dictate prices go up. Or, "Out of Stock"
Unfortunately most people are completely retards and don't understand even a tiny bit of basic economics and would rather see a regular price that is out of stock (which is essentially the same as a $10,000,000 price tag to us) than in stock and available but at a higher price. Now, I'm not saying anybody should go for CTD and charge $99 for a 30 round USGI AR mag...but if demand skyrockets (always possible after an election), pricesshouldgo up. People buying their 10th rifle are less likely to do so when prices rise to match demand, people buying their first with uncertain near term political happenings may well benefit from the availability of a higher pried rifle.
/rant
Say the election goes too far left and Geissele does not raise prices...then either you won't be able to get them (there won't be a black friday sale because they will already be OOS) or you'll have to pay a middle man markup on gunbroker etc
A) Do you think that Geissele themselves willraise MSRPwhen buying from them directly?
B) Or are you saying you think the price from third parties will increase due to supply and demand: whether that is from other retailers or private sales?
I don't think A will happen, I think Geissele will keep their MSRP fixed when buying direct from them. But it will be hard to secure a purchase from them just because of supply and demand. Maybe at worst they increase price a bit, but I bet they still have some crazy good deals next BF (though it will sell out even faster next year than this).
I think B will happen, for all brands/makes, as has happened several times before.
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12-23-2019, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
That's a gucci optic, but I already have a Trijicon VCOG (yes, the Kahles is better), and I want to use a unmagnified rds for this build.I say this without bias, get a Kahles K16i
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12-23-2019, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
This year you could get it for 0.75MSRP. If next year you can get it for MSRP, that's a 33% price increase.What I mean, and I'll take a bit more time to expound, is...
A) Do you think that Geissele willraise MSRPthemselves when buying from them directly?
B) Or are you saying you think the price from third parties will increase due to supply and demand: whether that is from other retailers or private sales?
I don't think A will happen, I think Geissele will keep their MSRP fixed when buying direct from them. But it will be hard to secure a purchase from them just because of supply and demand. Maybe at worst they increase price a bit, but I bet they still have some crazy good deals next BF (though it will sell out even faster next year than this).
I think B will happen, for all brands/makes, as has happened several times before.
A) Do you think that Geissele willraise MSRPthemselves when buying from them directly?
B) Or are you saying you think the price from third parties will increase due to supply and demand: whether that is from other retailers or private sales?
I don't think A will happen, I think Geissele will keep their MSRP fixed when buying direct from them. But it will be hard to secure a purchase from them just because of supply and demand. Maybe at worst they increase price a bit, but I bet they still have some crazy good deals next BF (though it will sell out even faster next year than this).
I think B will happen, for all brands/makes, as has happened several times before.
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12-23-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Restraining order?Dududude
I saw her in line at lunch today. she was wearing tight jeans so tight they gave her a perma wedgy
She looked over at me then quickly looked down and her face turned red
What do you think was going through her mind?
I saw her in line at lunch today. she was wearing tight jeans so tight they gave her a perma wedgy
She looked over at me then quickly looked down and her face turned red
What do you think was going through her mind?
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12-23-2019, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
I have an MRO, and keep seeing them for about $300 plus mount on sale.That's a gucci optic, but I already have a Trijicon VCOG (yes, the Kalhes is better), and I want to use a unmagnified rds for this build.
I'd save the $300 compared to a T2 and get the MRO unless you're going to get a magnifier.
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12-23-2019, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Why do you say T2 if getting a magnifier? Why not magnifier with MRO? (not a trick question, idk)I have an MRO, and keep seeing them for about $300 plus mount on sale.
I'd save the $300 compared to a T2 and get the MRO unless you're going to get a magnifier.
I'd save the $300 compared to a T2 and get the MRO unless you're going to get a magnifier.
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12-23-2019, 05:33 PM
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12-23-2019, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
T2 was built to be magnified, so it's a better dot. The T2 is also 3 oz to the MRO's 4.1, which will help a little if you hang a magnifier on it.Why do you say T2 if getting a magnifier? Why not magnifier with MRO? (not a trick question, idk)
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12-23-2019, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
but is it better than HOLOSUN?T2 was built to be magnified, so it's a better dot. The T2 is also 3 oz to the MRO's 4.1, which will help a little if you hang a magnifier on it.
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12-23-2019, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Jesus ****ing Christ...but is it better than HOLOSUN?
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12-23-2019, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
I don’t think you can really put a magnifier on an MRO with how that objective lens is so big.Why do you say T2 if getting a magnifier? Why not magnifier with MRO? (not a trick question, idk)
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12-23-2019, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
I would wager Geissele goes out of stock quickly, cools for a bit, comes back with higher prices...and/or raises prices to retailers and just sells out to them instead of dealing with the headache of the general public since we're idiots heckling them about ETA's 2 weeks into an 8 week lead timeWhat I mean, and I'll take a bit more time to expound, is...
A) Do you think that Geissele themselves willraise MSRPwhen buying from them directly?
B) Or are you saying you think the price from third parties will increase due to supply and demand: whether that is from other retailers or private sales?
I don't think A will happen, I think Geissele will keep their MSRP fixed when buying direct from them. But it will be hard to secure a purchase from them just because of supply and demand. Maybe at worst they increase price a bit, but I bet they still have some crazy good deals next BF (though it will sell out even faster next year than this).
I think B will happen, for all brands/makes, as has happened several times before.
A) Do you think that Geissele themselves willraise MSRPwhen buying from them directly?
B) Or are you saying you think the price from third parties will increase due to supply and demand: whether that is from other retailers or private sales?
I don't think A will happen, I think Geissele will keep their MSRP fixed when buying direct from them. But it will be hard to secure a purchase from them just because of supply and demand. Maybe at worst they increase price a bit, but I bet they still have some crazy good deals next BF (though it will sell out even faster next year than this).
I think B will happen, for all brands/makes, as has happened several times before.
We don't have to guess at what will happen, we've seen it before.
Everything in demand will be out of stock or elevated in price, everywhere. You know it, why are you even asking?
12-23-2019, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
Are you guys going to take the sec out of commission?Becoming a cardio bunny at 30 is a bad look.
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12-23-2019, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I was asking if you're saying A or B. B was rhetorical, I realize that it will happen that way, I'm not asking if B will happen or not I'm asking if you meant "B" or if Geissele themselves will raise MSRP directly ("A"). I don't think Geissele themselves will raise MSRP,You know it, why are you even asking?
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good heavens, skip to 30 second mark. 'mirin that guy carrying in gym shorts. looks like 3 shots, first one looks like it grazed top of thug's head.
good heavens, skip to 30 second mark. 'mirin that guy carrying in gym shorts. looks like 3 shots, first one looks like it grazed top of thug's head.
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