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post 1594178561 12-24-2019, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Just a reminder this guy is autistic and looks like chit and says backwards things so hopefully no newbies listen to this fool.

Almost everything he says is retarded and off and his physique is fuked up from the DIY-tard “training”

Don’t listen to this guy
Shut up, bitch
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Just a reminder this guy is autistic and looks like chit and says backwards things so hopefully no newbies listen to this fool.

Almost everything he says is retarded and off and his physique is fuked up from the DIY-tard “training”

Don’t listen to this guy
I'm going to see if you can answer a question rationally.

What is so wrong with his advice?
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post 1594178911 12-24-2019, 09:55 AM
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Agree on the cables, I switched over to them a few months ago because I get better control and better resistance through the motion.

But those pants man....

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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Just a reminder this guy is autistic and looks like chit and says backwards things so hopefully no newbies listen to this fool.

Almost everything he says is retarded and off and his physique is fuked up from the DIY-tard “training”

Don’t listen to this guy
lol says the twink.
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Drew stfu you’re old ugly and fat I saw what you look like

You’re not a powerlifter anymore you’re a potato and lost my respect

You look like chit.

Red you also look like chit.

OP looks like chit.

Can y’all stop trying to give dumbass advice.

I want this place to be a place a of good info for potential new people, not a place for quackery and dumb flat earth tier training theories.

Work on you compounds till you stop looking like crap. All your bodies have a long way to go.

Meanwhile I actually look good and know what I’m talking about

Juggernaut you always say backwards chit too get a clue.
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Yep, I knew you couldn't answer a question without sounding like an unintelligent moron. Good to confirm.
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
Yep, I knew you couldn't answer a question without sounding like an unintelligent moron. Good to confirm.
Because it’s a big cliche that people don’t do compounds long enough to transform their body so their sillouette looks like a potato with muscle definition instead of someone who actually lifts properly and has proper muscle separation and good proportions.

It’s dumb to keep repeatedly arguing this same basic principle of body sculpting.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Because it’s a big cliche that people don’t do compounds long enough to transform their body so their sillouette looks like a potato with muscle definition instead of someone who actually lifts properly and has proper muscle separation and good proportions.

It’s dumb to keep repeatedly arguing this same basic principle of body sculpting.
Cool. Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
I'm going to see if you can answer a question rationally.

What is so wrong with his advice?
Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Drew stfu you’re old ugly and fat I saw what you look like

You’re not a powerlifter anymore you’re a potato and lost my respect

You look like chit.

Red you also look like chit.

OP looks like chit.

Can y’all stop trying to give dumbass advice.

I want this place to be a place a of good info for potential new people, not a place for quackery and dumb flat earth tier training theories.

Work on you compounds till you stop looking like crap. All your bodies have a long way to go.

Meanwhile I actually look good and know what I’m talking about

Juggernaut you always say backwards chit too get a clue.
So that's going to be a no then.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Drew stfu you’re old ugly and fat I saw what you look like

You’re not a powerlifter anymore you’re a potato and lost my respect

You look like chit.

Red you also look like chit.

OP looks like chit.

Can y’all stop trying to give dumbass advice.

I want this place to be a place a of good info for potential new people, not a place for quackery and dumb flat earth tier training theories.

Work on you compounds till you stop looking like crap. All your bodies have a long way to go.

Meanwhile I actually look good and know what I’m talking about

Juggernaut you always say backwards chit too get a clue.
lmfao.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Because it’s a big cliche that people don’t do compounds long enough to transform their body so their sillouette looks like a potato with muscle definition instead of someone who actually lifts properly and has proper muscle separation and good proportions.

It’s dumb to keep repeatedly arguing this same basic principle of body sculpting.
As retarded as your last post was, I will actually agree with you on the point about compounds, however OP actually does do compound movements, Incline Bench, Squat and DL variation.

So I'm not sure WTF this attack is about.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
So I'm not sure WTF this attack is about.
It's sort of his schtick.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
As retarded as your last post was, I will actually agree with you on the point about compounds, however OP actually does do compound movements, Incline Bench, Squat and DL variation.

So I'm not sure WTF this attack is about.
No I already intellectually vanquished his physique sculpting (or lack therof) and critiqued his unnecessarily maligned obsession alternative lifting.

This guy is like a Vegan of lifting and does a lot of dumb stuff and represents a common theme in BB which is confusion.

These types of people are harborers of confusion and promote a wrong direction of focus in an already blurry and confusing world of misinformation.

They are obsessed with doing weird lifts which is why they started a small gang of misfits who like to do oddball excercises and completely miss the point of lifting and having the best possible version of your body.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
No I already intellectually vanquished his physique sculpting (or lack therof) and critiqued his unnecessarily maligned obsession alternative lifting.

This guy is like a Vegan of lifting and does a lot of dumb stuff and represents a common theme in BB which is confusion.

These types of people are harborers of confusion and promote a wrong direction of focus in an already blurry and confusing world of misinformation.

They are obsessed with doing weird lifts which is why they started a small gang of misfits who like to do oddball excercises and completely miss the point of lifting and having the best possible version of your body.
Here is the issue with this statement. While, in principle, I agree with the general point you are trying to make, I think it's chitty to bash on someone trying to just point out a different approach to doing something. There are certain things I do training that I would not advise someone else do. These aren't even OP's methods and principles. He follows people, namely John Bennett (hypertrophy coach) who preaches these things, and John is vastly more knowledgeable than you or I.

The most important part of any training routine, no matter what it is, is enjoyment. You need to enjoy the methods and principles you institute into your routine. OP likes to train this way, and he has made significant progress. No reason to insult his physique and be a dickhead to him just because you don't agree with it. I don't agree with some of OPs methods, but I respect him as a lifter.

Personal opinion - I am middle ground on this. While I don't like over complicating my training, I have found some unorthodox methods to be useful, and end up preferring them.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Drew stfu you’re old ugly and fat I saw what you look like

You’re not a powerlifter anymore you’re a potato and lost my respect

You look like chit.

Red you also look like chit.

OP looks like chit.

Can y’all stop trying to give dumbass advice.

I want this place to be a place a of good info for potential new people, not a place for quackery and dumb flat earth tier training theories.

Work on you compounds till you stop looking like crap. All your bodies have a long way to go.

Meanwhile I actually look good and know what I’m talking about

Juggernaut you always say backwards chit too get a clue.
You have the physique of a goddamn pre pubescent. Let's see your latest pose cupcake
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Here is the issue with this statement. While, in principle, I agree with the general point you are trying to make, I think it's chitty to bash on someone trying to just point out a different approach to doing something. There are certain things I do training that I would not advise someone else do. These aren't even OP's methods and principles. He follows people, namely John Bennett (hypertrophy coach) who preaches these things, and John is vastly more knowledgeable than you or I.

The most important part of any training routine, no matter what it is, is enjoyment. You need to enjoy the methods and principles you institute into your routine. OP likes to train this way, and he has made significant progress. No reason to insult his physique and be a dickhead to him just because you don't agree with it. I don't agree with some of OPs methods, but I respect him as a lifter.

Personal opinion - I am middle ground on this. While I don't like over complicating my training, I have found some unorthodox methods to be useful, and end up preferring them.
You're wasting your time with this. Absolute troll
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Because it’s a big cliche that people don’t do compounds long enough to transform their body so their sillouette looks like a potato with muscle definition instead of someone who actually lifts properly and has proper muscle separation and good proportions.

It’s dumb to keep repeatedly arguing this same basic principle of body sculpting.
I could probably dead stop shoulder press your bench
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
No I already intellectually vanquished his physique sculpting (or lack therof) and critiqued his unnecessarily maligned obsession alternative lifting.

This guy is like a Vegan of lifting and does a lot of dumb stuff and represents a common theme in BB which is confusion.

These types of people are harborers of confusion and promote a wrong direction of focus in an already blurry and confusing world of misinformation.

They are obsessed with doing weird lifts which is why they started a small gang of misfits who like to do oddball excercises and completely miss the point of lifting and having the best possible version of your body.
jk doesnt make posts for a new dude in the gym brah he's sharing ways he's found to better hit specific muscles

i've still never met a dude with a legit good physique that only did compounds, I know the internet tells me they're out there but I've yet to meet one
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Made this video for some people asking about why I never do DB laterals anymore and always use cables. Figured I'd share for anyone interested in hearing the logic behind it

It's nerdy and sciencey, but pretty damn legit imo. And no, I'm not saying DBs are a waste of time, simply saying they're not optimal. It's about a minute and a half long, give it a watch before going bat**** with comments

Lean over slight and bend your arms at the elbow, then raise. Muuuch better.
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
jk doesnt make posts for a new dude in the gym brah he's sharing ways he's found to better hit specific muscles

i've still never met a dude with a legit good physique that only did compounds, I know the internet tells me they're out there but I've yet to meet one
He's got such a boner for compounds, why even bother opening a thread about laterals lol.

But yeah, ignore the bw shoulder press for clean reps. JK only does the fluffy lifts
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Here is the issue with this statement. While, in principle, I agree with the general point you are trying to make, I think it's chitty to bash on someone trying to just point out a different approach to doing something. There are certain things I do training that I would not advise someone else do. These aren't even OP's methods and principles. He follows people, namely John Bennett (hypertrophy coach) who preaches these things, and John is vastly more knowledgeable than you or I.

The most important part of any training routine, no matter what it is, is enjoyment. You need to enjoy the methods and principles you institute into your routine. OP likes to train this way, and he has made significant progress. No reason to insult his physique and be a dickhead to him just because you don't agree with it. I don't agree with some of OPs methods, but I respect him as a lifter.

Personal opinion - I am middle ground on this. While I don't like over complicating my training, I have found some unorthodox methods to be useful, and end up preferring them.
Having fun is important and it’s subjective what that may be, at best he is a guy who “enjoys” goofy approaches.

But besides that the serious and sometimes sad part is not reaching the full potential ideal physique by doing too many side quests that stray off the main path and people only have one first event cycle and efficiency deteriorates. It’s important to fully expand and harness max muscle separation and full growth from heaviness of total body stimulus.

It’s beyond mere fun to not fully reach a proper physique at its fullest potential. IMO it outweighs that.

If this was an RPG this guy would have chosen warrior class and not maxed out strength and attack and instead maxed out magic or charisma or something like that. It’s just inefficient.

And then the cliche of people copying pros when they aren’t one is a huge problem as well.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Having fun is important and it’s subjective what that may be, at best he is a guy who “enjoys” goofy approaches.

But besides that the serious and sometimes sad part is not reaching the full potential ideal physique by doing too many side quests that stray off the main path and people only have one first event cycle and efficiency deteriorates. It’s important to fully expand and harness max muscle separation and full growth from heaviness of total body stimulus.

It’s beyond mere fun to not fully reach a proper physique at its fullest potential. IMO it outweighs that.

If this was an RPG this guy would have chosen warrior class and not maxed out strength and attack and instead maxed out magic or charisma or something like that. It’s just inefficient.

And then the cliche of people copying pros when they aren’t one is a huge problem as well.
I'm still waiting to see your current physique that's better than mine to back up all the **** you talk....
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
No I already intellectually vanquished his physique sculpting (or lack therof) and critiqued his unnecessarily maligned obsession alternative lifting.

This guy is like a Vegan of lifting and does a lot of dumb stuff and represents a common theme in BB which is confusion.

These types of people are harborers of confusion and promote a wrong direction of focus in an already blurry and confusing world of misinformation.

They are obsessed with doing weird lifts which is why they started a small gang of misfits who like to do oddball excercises and completely miss the point of lifting and having the best possible version of your body.
Originally Posted By jk202⏩
I'm still waiting to see your current physique that's better than mine to back up all the **** you talk....
K bye.

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Lmaaao, KingKVtW gets styled on as usual. Lmao, I was like lmao.
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Originally Posted By Kirra⏩
Lmaaao, KingKVtW gets styled on as usual. Lmao, I was like lmao.
And then he disappears from the thread, also as usual. Ayyy lmao.
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Originally Posted By janglingjack⏩
Problem with cables is they are constantly being used in my poverty gym. So DB crew checking in
THIS. Always slots doing leg/hip abduction exercises on them.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Just a reminder this guy is autistic and looks like chit and says backwards things so hopefully no newbies listen to this fool.

Almost everything he says is retarded and off and his physique is fuked up from the DIY-tard “training”

Don’t listen to this guy
It wasn't that long ago you posted a picture in a grey tank top looking extremely skinny, with a crease in the portion of your shirt where they sewed material for a chest.
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Originally Posted By Judgment⏩
It wasn't that long ago you posted a picture in a grey tank top looking extremely skinny, with a crease in the portion of your shirt where they sewed material for a chest.
I found it funny how he felt qualified to post advice in the thread a few months ago “Good Chest Brahs, how do you train your chest”

https://i.gyazo.com/f9ad8d60fa87201f...66bee3ac64.png

Now here he is claiming my delts suck
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Originally Posted By colormeconfused⏩
Lean over slight and bend your arms at the elbow, then raise. Muuuch better.
You don't have to bend over with a cable, you can just adjust body position and slightly externally rotate however much you want.

Bending your elbow just deceases the moment arm allowing you to use more weight
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
I could probably dead stop shoulder press your bench
Lol you were struggling to do 6 reps with 85lbs dumbbells on shoulder press. Sit down.
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