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Thread: Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker discussion thread (Spoilers)

post 1594195781 12-24-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By hackerwacker⏩
Yet here you are, complaining about people complaining it.

I mean it's only the biggest franchise ever created, spawned off of 3 of the most beloved and highly regarded movies of all time across multiple generations. That inspired thousands of writers and artists to build up the extended universe. A franchise that rakes in billions and smashes records half a century after the original movies, even despite the terrible prequels and spinoffs. But you're right no one cares

People keep coming back to star wars, even after disappointment after disappointment. That's testament to how powerful the OT really was, and the themes it represents.
An expanded universe that Kathleen chose to wipe her cum drenched ass with...fuking roastie hag.
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Originally Posted By The
What drives me crazy is they can't even get the little things right with these movies.
1. Rey still carries her staff around even though she has a friggin light saber. What moron decided that was a necessary part of her costume?
2. When BB8 is hacking the Star Destroyer in the end battle Finn is literally kneeling in a wide open space with storm troopers everywhere and never gets shot. Can we at least even a remote sense of danger in any fight. How you going to be totally unconcerned standing in the wide open during a firefight.
The part that triggered me was when dude is like "Fire the ion cannons!" and all the star destroyers just fire plain old green blasters. Ion cannons are fuking blue in star wars. Fuking idiots. They could have asked any fuking star wars nerd to check the movie beforehand...
post 1594196101 12-24-2019, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted By blakus_javus⏩
Flawed,but magic. There are no more scrutinised films in the last 30+ years than SW. Those hold up.

Interesting how the "magic" disappeared the more they started relying more & more on the force being a superpower (Marvel... SW shouldn't be Marvel) that can do whatever lazy writers want.

It was a sideline, a punchline in the OG films. Some people didn't even believe it. It was quaint little touch & it worked. But kids wanted to be Han or Chewie just as much because force or not, Han & CHewie could affect the galaxy as much as Luke... and by extension every gun-runner, bounty hunter, ex soldier, con man, well connected diplomat etc ALL ALSO feel like they can have an effect on the galaxy, whoever they are. It feels like a dynamic world where YOUR actions, or inaction, or luck or any myriad of things can tip the balance. It's vast. That makes in chaotic. But you're all small fish.

By now the Force is god-tier & only 2 families in all the galaxies actually matter. That's a big, boring shift in the way the audience perceives the world.
This I remember seeing ANH the week it released.

When I was little I wanted to be Han not Luke lol.
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haven't seen it and won't see it until it comes on tv but have seen the last jedi and that was ok so judging from the backlash to that movie this probably won't be bad either

if i had to guess, all the angst with this trilogy has to with a female being the lead and the movies revolving around her story, i mean what else could explain such an intense triggering and nitpicking over a movie lmfao
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Why do you muppets pay to see it in theaters? Grow some balls and stop cucking yourself by rewarding them.
I paid to see it because I have a tradition of taking my boys to every Star wars open since they were born.

Now that my middle boy is in college the fact he was home was an opportunity to continue a tradition that will soon be gone.
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post 1594196811 12-24-2019, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I paid to see it because I have a tradition of taking my boys to every Star wars open since they were born.

Now that my middle boy is in college the fact he was home was an opportunity to continue a tradition that will soon be gone.
Just take them to see another movie. Disney is banking on brand loyalty. They will continue to release garbage. Is that the memory you want your kid to have? Dad took him to see a soyboy garbage movie? Could have taken them to see 1917 when it comes out.
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Originally Posted By lolXlol⏩
haven't seen it and won't see it until it comes on tv but have seen the last jedi and that was ok so judging from the backlash to that movie this probably won't be bad either
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Just take them to see another movie. Disney is banking on brand loyalty. They will continue to release garbage. Is that the memory you want your kid to have? Dad took him to see a soyboy garbage movie? Could have taken them to see 1917 when it comes out.
Does someone else's family traditions really bother you that much?
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
The part that triggered me was when dude is like "Fire the ion cannons!" and all the star destroyers just fire plain old green blasters. Ion cannons are fuking blue in star wars. Fuking idiots. They could have asked any fuking star wars nerd to check the movie beforehand...
THIS

Then they have that former storm trooper chick using a bow and arrow as her primary weapon like the resistance doesn't have blaster laying around she could use in the most important assault of the entire series. Also LOL at riding horses and not having Finn use a jetpack or something cool. At least he could have done something interesting for once.
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
star wars fans itt: omg disney, y-y-you can't do that!!!





























































me reacting to you kids
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One of the worst movies ive seen in a while. Feel absolutely terrible for the actors i dont think any of this is their fault.

Mark my words the next Star Wars movie will be some Stranger Things / M Night Shywhatever artsy low power / high suspense / we dont know whats happening til the big plot twist movie
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This would be the first SW episode I miss since Phantom Menace, but I don't want to encourage bad movies. TLJ sucked so bad.
post 1594198601 12-24-2019, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
Does someone else's family traditions really bother you that much?
u have disney stock don't u lmao

yes they do because these traditions and brand loyalists enabled more degradation of my favorite movie franchise
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Originally Posted By jc0024⏩
seriously guys.. someone answer this. i missed this when i watched it also but now its bothering the **** out of me lol. i've already come to terms with all the plot holes introduced with episode 9 but this chit right here might make me lose sleep lmao.

i need a quote from JJ explaining this oversight
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pretty good movie i liked that the good guys won
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Originally Posted By KramericaInd⏩
pretty good movie i liked that the good guys won
Good guys always win
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Originally Posted By KramericaInd⏩
pretty good movie i liked that the good guys won
Did they though?
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Did they though?
when it comes to disney the hero female ALWAYS wins.
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Thought it was OK. Will not be seeing it again.

What blows my mind about this new trilogy is how they did not have some sort of plan in the beginning of what the plot was going to be for all 3 movies. There is no way the original plan was to have Snoke killed in the second movie. After TLJ, Adams was kind of screwed. They needed someone bigger than Kylo Ren which is why they brought back Palpatine. I don't think it would have worked if they added a new antagonist since it is the final movie in the trilogy.

Saw all of the Star Wars movies in the theater with the exception of ANH.
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Originally Posted By skier!⏩
Thought it was OK. Will not be seeing it again.

What blows my mind about this new trilogy is how they did not have some sort of plan in the beginning of what the plot was going to be for all 3 movies. There is no way the original plan was to have Snoke killed in the second movie. After TLJ, Adams was kind of screwed. They needed someone bigger than Kylo Ren which is why they brought back Palpatine. I don't think it would have worked if they added a new antagonist since it is the final movie in the trilogy.

Saw all of the Star Wars movies in the theater with the exception of ANH.
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post 1594210731 12-24-2019, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
yea this phenomenon is known as "power creep"...every time they have to make a bigger, badder big bad.
Originally Posted By JaxBrah⏩
Going with KOTOR is really the only way forward for new trilogies in the SW universe. They completely ruined any chance of a post-OT path to new movies now that they turned everything up to an 11. Anakin is the chosen one? Syke, Wonder-Rey is. The Death Star is the ultimate threat? Syke, heres 10,000 ships with freakin death star lasers attached to their heads.

Anakin was the one that FINALLY brought balance to the force. That should be it, thats the end. Theres nothing interesting to be done after Vaders sacrifice. But, theres endless content to be done before all that.

A KOTOR saga frees you from the restraints of beloved older characters and plot lines and you dont have to raise the stakes beyond a Death Star.

My wet dream would be to wake up one morning and read that Christopher Nolan has signed on to do a KOTOR trilogy with Keanu Reeves playing Revan.
That's why they need to shrink the scale down a bit. A straight KOTOR adaptation with beefed up dialogue is how you recapture respect for this franchise, and they can make Revan good or bad, either would work. Keanu would actually be perfect too LOL.

A KOTOR II storyline would be even more unique, even if the sith powers are bordering on insane. But you have Nihilus whose this dark side force of nature who consumes everything, I think you could add some sick horror elements into that.

There's no denying that it would make less money though, which is why Disney would never pull the trigger. But of course, some people will bitch regardless of what they do. SW geeks are easily the most fickle fan base I've ever seen.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
SW geeks are easily the most fickle fan base I've ever seen.




No wonder George sold Star Wars lol
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩




No wonder George sold Star Wars lol
And he was aware of this in the EARLY 90's. If I remember correctly...he said people will hate him no matter what he does before he even started writing the prequels. He did goof up hiring so many yes men, but at least he tried hiring good directors. The problem was they insisted he do it.

But...we've also never had a sequel series without excessive cringey dialogue (prequels) or a poor story that's a botched reboot (VII-IX). I'm trying to find "The Phantom Edit" because I'm convinced that some creative editing could make the prequels very good films.
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Originally Posted By GravityLee⏩
One of the worst movies ive seen in a while. Feel absolutely terrible for the actors i dont think any of this is their fault.

Mark my words the next Star Wars movie will be some Stranger Things / M Night Shywhatever artsy low power / high suspense / we dont know whats happening til the big plot twist movie
I think The Duffer Brothers(Stranger Things) would do a good Star Wars movie
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So Disney apparently are making a Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic movies

https://www.polygon.com/entertainmen...e-kotor-disney

Hope they don't fuk Revan up
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
It's extremely weak. Like another poster mentioned, the Emperor is in the story for only the end of the movie. I forget who said it, but a poster said this should have been split into two movies. I honestly think TLJ destroyed the series so much that no movie could have saved the trilogy.
Just saw it yesterday finally, still catching up on this thread, but Rise of Skywalker was such a jumbled mess, I actually think Last Jedi is a better film, and I'm one of the people who didn't like TLJ and loved the Force Awakens.

Rise of Skywalker was a sloppy pile of fan service, whereas at least Last Jedi was a cohesive well-made film. My problem with Last Jedi was what they did to everything set up in Force Awakens and how it threw everything into chaos and tried to kill the Star Wars lore, but it was still a cohesive quality movie.

Last Skywalker thoughts:

-Whatever "romance" the trilogy was trying to set up was a complete chit show. What was the thing Finn wanted to say to Rey when they thought they were drowning/dying? What happened after Rose kissed Finn at the end of Last Jedi? Where did the Rey/Kylo kiss come from, was that a romance being set up or more of a brother/sister force bond? They set up several story lines that went nowhere.

-The lineage thing, seems out of nowhere and in desperation after Last Jedi established her parents were "nobody."

-"Rise of Skywalker" - the title/idea that Rey is a Skywalker...sooo...all the actual Skywalkers are dead (Luke, Leia, Ben) and Rey (Palpatine's granddaughter) takes over the lineage? This isn't the rise of Skywalker, it's the death of all Skywalkers lol.

-I was really hopeful for this film as I loved Force Awakens and we got JJ back...but he seemed more concerned with fan service and checking things off his "Star Wars" list that he forgot to make a clean, cohesive movie. There was no "magic" in this film, nothing that gave me chills. It was sloppy, messy, full of holes, and threw everything but the kitchen sink at us in hopes of covering everything, and in doing so, accomplished little.
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Originally Posted By jlick⏩
no it's set after episoide 9. people call him baby yoda but he's not (as far as I know)
Don't know if someone said this already (long thread) but Mandalorian takes place after Return of the Jedi (episode 6).
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Originally Posted By eltoro24⏩
Not to be a total nerd but here it goes.

They never named the Yoda Species. Lucas wanted to keep it a mystery so they are all called Yoda Species. So calling it a Baby Yoda is technically correct.

Ok so how the **** are they passing stuff threw the force. That might have been useful for 8 previous episodes.
The lightsaber pass at the end of Rise of Skywalker from Rey to Ben (if that's what you're referring to) - I saw this as more of a physical transfer (Rey "flew" the lightsaber to Ben through the air) since they were both on Palpatine's ship...as opposed to transporting it mentally.
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Originally Posted By JewishSuperHero⏩
I walked out of the movie last night thinking “meh.”

But the more I think about it, the more I dislike it.

Chit was like a big budget fan fiction tumblr story.

Also every movie in the sequel trilogy has been a reaction.

TFA was a reaction to the prequel backlash. “We’re going to remake the original trilogy.”

TLJ was a reaction to TFA backlash. “We’re going to go all out and be the opposite of the original trilogy.”

RoS was a reaction to TLJ backlash. “FINE! We’re going to undo everything from TLJ and we’re going to decide our entire storyline based on what people on Reddit, Twitter, and YouTube comments sections want. Plus Palpatine is back. And he fukks.”
LMAO repped, this is probably the best post I've read yet on the trilogy.

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