02-10-2020, 08:03 AM
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I think echo chambers create incels srs
When I think of myself growing up, I think I could have easily been an incel.
I was skinny, manlet, into nerdy chit like math, reading, anime, and video games. Had low self esteem, likely the result of my father not being around much. Would sometimes be all beta and chit and cry about not finding a gf n chit. Somehow I managed to tough it out and get into a fight every now and then and eventually find my way into a few vaginas.
But what if I started going on forums and meeting similar people? What if I surrounded myself with others who couldn't figure out how to get girls? What if I had people reassuring me that i was incapable of getting a girl because of "X" reason or because I looked like "X"? I was in a vulnerable spot in mental development and growth. Something like that would have effected me in a bad way. I think a lot of incels are convinced that they are meant to be what they are, and not that they're voluntarily that way.
Seems like a trap that would be easy to fall into. Can any cels confirm?
I was skinny, manlet, into nerdy chit like math, reading, anime, and video games. Had low self esteem, likely the result of my father not being around much. Would sometimes be all beta and chit and cry about not finding a gf n chit. Somehow I managed to tough it out and get into a fight every now and then and eventually find my way into a few vaginas.
But what if I started going on forums and meeting similar people? What if I surrounded myself with others who couldn't figure out how to get girls? What if I had people reassuring me that i was incapable of getting a girl because of "X" reason or because I looked like "X"? I was in a vulnerable spot in mental development and growth. Something like that would have effected me in a bad way. I think a lot of incels are convinced that they are meant to be what they are, and not that they're voluntarily that way.
Seems like a trap that would be easy to fall into. Can any cels confirm?
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02-10-2020, 08:10 AM
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If horribly ugly and have fried your dopamine receptors with porn anime and weed for years on end, it will take some serious lifestyle changes to change your circumstances.
Most just take the path of least resistance, fap fap fap them troll online for a bit, tap again...
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02-10-2020, 08:13 AM
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Can confirm. Internet makes it easier for the *cels to find like minded individuals, and create echo chambers which then serve to normalise their maladjusted views and convictions on various subjects.
Example: misc
Edit: reply above mine is a perfect illustration of my point. LMAO at "horribly ugly".
Example: misc
Edit: reply above mine is a perfect illustration of my point. LMAO at "horribly ugly".
02-10-2020, 08:18 AM
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I think a lot of factors play into becoming an incel. Can't really pinpoint one thing that turns brahs into incels besides maybe being ugly as fuk SRS.
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02-10-2020, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
But what blows my mind is how often someone posts their face and you have personally known people much uglier that are getting laid. I'm talking self proclaimed incels with average or slightly below average that say looks are the reason.I think a lot of factors play into becoming an incel. Can't really pinpoint one thing that turns brahs into incels besides maybe being ugly as fuk SRS.
Now ugly makes some sense, especially really ugly, but average people saying looks hold them back is craziness to me.
You're right about the combination of things though. Maybe a lot of things have to go wrong for it to happen.
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02-10-2020, 08:47 AM
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02-10-2020, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
thisBut what blows my mind is how often someone posts their face and you have personally know people much uglier that are getting laid. I'm talking self proclaimed incels with average or slightly below average that say looks are the reason.
Now ugly makes some sense, especially really ugly, but average people saying looks hold them back is craziness to me.
You're right about the combination of things though. Maybe a lot of things have to go wrong for it to happen.
Now ugly makes some sense, especially really ugly, but average people saying looks hold them back is craziness to me.
You're right about the combination of things though. Maybe a lot of things have to go wrong for it to happen.
Every time someone that thinks their "looks" are the reason they fail with women and they post their pic I'm like....bruh....you're a normal looking human bean lol
02-10-2020, 09:02 AM
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For the same reason that many of them get so much better when joining a gym, team sport environment, BJJ, boxing, eat healthier, stop druqs/booze. It's not that hard. It's work, and they don't want to do it.
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02-10-2020, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By resoog⏩
Damn. Never thought about that.if all your friends are on the internet you are going to start feeling like something is wrong in your life. you can't see people online, therefore you get hardly any good constructive feedback
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02-10-2020, 09:19 AM
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Yeah the internet plays a HUGE part in inceldom. Their presence online is much stronger than what it actually is in real life.
You have thousands of men wallowing in negativity and validating their inferiority to each other. It's not healthy and I myself almost fell into that dark trap. I was a bitter and angry with women particularly during my Junior year of HS.
What played a part in that was:
-Lack of experience
-Lack of confidence
-Little to no interaction with females
-I have a good father, but due to religious upbringing dating was forbidden until you were "appropriately" aged.
Environment and influence plays a big part in it. Self awareness is required to get out of that hole.
You have thousands of men wallowing in negativity and validating their inferiority to each other. It's not healthy and I myself almost fell into that dark trap. I was a bitter and angry with women particularly during my Junior year of HS.
What played a part in that was:
-Lack of experience
-Lack of confidence
-Little to no interaction with females
-I have a good father, but due to religious upbringing dating was forbidden until you were "appropriately" aged.
Environment and influence plays a big part in it. Self awareness is required to get out of that hole.
02-10-2020, 09:19 AM
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I'm hoping you are right. Only in recent times has the misc, which has never been a place to be taken srsly, has really been bothering me a bit. There is this belief perpetuated here that it is impossible for anyone who isn't elite to accomplish anything. It doesn't seem to match reality
02-10-2020, 09:26 AM
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It's definitely a factor. I was basically in the same boat as you. But half the guys I grew up with were ugly/fat/short, and they all lost their virginity before the end of high school. I was the only one who couldn't manage to get laid at the time. Since I was the only "incel" that I knew of, I couldn't start normalizing it and blame women and my looks.
There are generational differences in how we handle problems as well I think. Bitching and moaning just seemed gay as fuk.
There are generational differences in how we handle problems as well I think. Bitching and moaning just seemed gay as fuk.
Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
A minority of them are midgets or retarded levels of ugly, but most of the ones I've seen on the misc are just average looking guys who are terrified of women and have zero social skills. Hell, look at Nicklol. Her was a virgin until his mid-20s, but once he started mass messaging chicks he built himself a a little rotation.I think a lot of factors play into becoming an incel. Can't really pinpoint one thing that turns brahs into incels besides maybe being ugly as fuk SRS.
02-10-2020, 09:27 AM
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Online dating creates incels. Girls have thousands of options now.
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02-10-2020, 09:29 AM
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I think its low T and ‘bitch’ mentality... which seem to be increasingly more prevalent these days.
Lmao @ people taking drugs to help with their “anxiety”, like god damn mother****ers unless youre getting legit panic attack or something just man the fook up and stop being a *******
Lift heavy, go play some pick up bball games regularly, and stop having bitch thoughts. I guaran-****ing-tee if all incels do those 3 things they wont be incels in 2-3 months.
Lmao @ people taking drugs to help with their “anxiety”, like god damn mother****ers unless youre getting legit panic attack or something just man the fook up and stop being a *******
Lift heavy, go play some pick up bball games regularly, and stop having bitch thoughts. I guaran-****ing-tee if all incels do those 3 things they wont be incels in 2-3 months.
02-10-2020, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains⏩
FeelsIt's definitely a factor. I was basically in the same boat as you. But half the guys I grew up with were ugly/fat/short, and they all lost their virginity before the end of high school. I was the only one who couldn't manage to get laid at the time. Since I was the only "incel" that I knew of, I couldn't start normalizing it and blame women and my looks.
There are generational differences in how we handle problems as well I think. Bitching and moaning just seemed gay as fuk.
There are generational differences in how we handle problems as well I think. Bitching and moaning just seemed gay as fuk.
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02-10-2020, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By resoog⏩
Agreedif all your friends are on the internet you are going to start feeling like something is wrong in your life. you can't see people online, therefore you get hardly any good constructive feedback
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02-10-2020, 09:38 AM
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And Muzzlr, I think social media is the thing that is creating incels right now. People become so glued to ig,fb, etc...that they don't even know how to have an actual conversation. Ironic isn't it
See how people were in the 80s when there were no smart phones/ig/sc/etc
See how people were in the 80s when there were no smart phones/ig/sc/etc
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[QUOTE=Fang2 post_id=1597477881]And Muzzlr, I think social media is the thing that is creating incels right now. People become so glued to ig,fb, etc...that they don't even know how to have an actual conversation. Ironic isn't it
See how people were in the 80s when there were no smart phones/ig/sc/etc
[YOUTUBE5_BaA[/YOUTUBE][/QUOTE]It cant be social medias fault imo. Everyone is on social media but only a fraction of people are incels. The math doesnt add up.
Its bitch mentality man in telling you. Guys these days dont know to how handle their personal problems like men.
Imo i think it has a lot to do with how kids are being raised in combination with lack of physical exercise and poor diet. Low t + bitch mentality = incel *******s.
See how people were in the 80s when there were no smart phones/ig/sc/etc
[YOUTUBE5_BaA[/YOUTUBE][/QUOTE]It cant be social medias fault imo. Everyone is on social media but only a fraction of people are incels. The math doesnt add up.
Its bitch mentality man in telling you. Guys these days dont know to how handle their personal problems like men.
Imo i think it has a lot to do with how kids are being raised in combination with lack of physical exercise and poor diet. Low t + bitch mentality = incel *******s.
02-10-2020, 10:05 AM
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I read your post about average faces.
The people with average faces getting laid most likely have amazing social skills.
There are many factors that come into play to make people incels.
The biggest ones are physical appearance and social aptitude.
You need a certain amount of both combined.
The other thing you're failing to realize is that you had potential, and not everyone has potential.
Equating your situation to others is not really accurate and fair.
Imagine if a 500+ bencher said " hey, I was non lifter before, but I worked hard on myself. If you work hard you too can be 500+ bencher. "
Do you see the fallacy?
The internet contributed in making people less socially apt because it reduced the number of social interaction during development.
You can't improve social skills overnight if you suck at it. It's almost impossible to significantly improve socially.
Looks are very important, and women often judge you on things outside of your control ( i.e face and height)
Working out can help, but it won't be significant if you have a subpart facial bone structure and short stature.
The problem is that some people are not attractive enough and lack some social skills.
You can also have people that are slightly attractive but lack most social skills. ( Brain cells )
The situation is more nuanced and complex than you think if you really take the time to analyze things objectively.
Incel forums are the result of being an incel. It's hard to argue that they are the cause.
Inceldom is nothing new to be honest.
Throughout evolution, less than 40% of men got to reproduce.
Women are evolutionary designed to be hypergamic.
Things like online dating and social media has made women even more selective than they really are because it makes them think they have a lot of options, which is partially true.
The people with average faces getting laid most likely have amazing social skills.
There are many factors that come into play to make people incels.
The biggest ones are physical appearance and social aptitude.
You need a certain amount of both combined.
The other thing you're failing to realize is that you had potential, and not everyone has potential.
Equating your situation to others is not really accurate and fair.
Imagine if a 500+ bencher said " hey, I was non lifter before, but I worked hard on myself. If you work hard you too can be 500+ bencher. "
Do you see the fallacy?
The internet contributed in making people less socially apt because it reduced the number of social interaction during development.
You can't improve social skills overnight if you suck at it. It's almost impossible to significantly improve socially.
Looks are very important, and women often judge you on things outside of your control ( i.e face and height)
Working out can help, but it won't be significant if you have a subpart facial bone structure and short stature.
The problem is that some people are not attractive enough and lack some social skills.
You can also have people that are slightly attractive but lack most social skills. ( Brain cells )
The situation is more nuanced and complex than you think if you really take the time to analyze things objectively.
Incel forums are the result of being an incel. It's hard to argue that they are the cause.
Inceldom is nothing new to be honest.
Throughout evolution, less than 40% of men got to reproduce.
Women are evolutionary designed to be hypergamic.
Things like online dating and social media has made women even more selective than they really are because it makes them think they have a lot of options, which is partially true.
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02-10-2020, 10:08 AM
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Single mothers and beta fathers create them. Prove me wrong.
And just to be clear, there's no such thing as incel, only volcel.
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02-10-2020, 10:11 AM
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Could be bad parents
Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Possibly...or parents giving their kids everything, and not preparing them for the real world. Most millennial nowadays think they deserve everything, while not working hard for it. That's why Sanders got so popularIt cant be social medias fault imo. Everyone is on social media but only a fraction of people are incels. The math doesnt add up.
Its bitch mentality man in telling you. Guys these days dont know to how handle their personal problems like men.
Imo i think it has a lot to do with how kids are being raised in combination with lack of physical exercise and poor diet. Low t + bitch mentality = incel *******s.
Its bitch mentality man in telling you. Guys these days dont know to how handle their personal problems like men.
Imo i think it has a lot to do with how kids are being raised in combination with lack of physical exercise and poor diet. Low t + bitch mentality = incel *******s.
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02-10-2020, 10:11 AM
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Whoa my mind's blown rn that's groundbreaking stuff m8. Lmao that's obvious af srs
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02-10-2020, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker⏩
Thanks for the feedback.I read your post about average faces.
The people with average faces getting laid most likely have amazing social skills.
There are many factors that come into play to make people incels.
The biggest ones are physical appearance and social aptitude.
You need a certain amount of both combined.
The other thing you're failing to realize is that you had potential, and not everyone has potential.
Equating your situation to others is not really accurate and fair.
Imagine if a 500+ bencher said " hey, I was non lifter before, but I worked hard on myself. If you work hard you too can be 500+ bencher. "
Do you see the fallacy?
The internet contributed in making people less socially apt because it reduced the number of social interaction during development.
You can't improve social skills overnight if you suck at it. It's almost impossible to significantly improve socially.
Looks are very important, and women often judge you on things outside of your control ( i.e face and height)
Working out can help, but it won't be significant if you have a subpart facial bone structure and short stature.
The problem is that some people are not attractive enough and lack some social skills.
You can also have people that are slightly attractive but lack most social skills. ( Brain cells )
The situation is more nuanced and complex than you think if you really take the time to analyze things objectively.
Incel forums are the result of being an incel. It's hard to argue that they are the cause.
Inceldom is nothing new to be honest.
Throughout evolution, less than 40% of men got to reproduce.
Women are evolutionary designed to be hypergamic.
Things like online dating and social media has made women even more selective than they really are because it makes them think they have a lot of options, which is partially true.
The people with average faces getting laid most likely have amazing social skills.
There are many factors that come into play to make people incels.
The biggest ones are physical appearance and social aptitude.
You need a certain amount of both combined.
The other thing you're failing to realize is that you had potential, and not everyone has potential.
Equating your situation to others is not really accurate and fair.
Imagine if a 500+ bencher said " hey, I was non lifter before, but I worked hard on myself. If you work hard you too can be 500+ bencher. "
Do you see the fallacy?
The internet contributed in making people less socially apt because it reduced the number of social interaction during development.
You can't improve social skills overnight if you suck at it. It's almost impossible to significantly improve socially.
Looks are very important, and women often judge you on things outside of your control ( i.e face and height)
Working out can help, but it won't be significant if you have a subpart facial bone structure and short stature.
The problem is that some people are not attractive enough and lack some social skills.
You can also have people that are slightly attractive but lack most social skills. ( Brain cells )
The situation is more nuanced and complex than you think if you really take the time to analyze things objectively.
Incel forums are the result of being an incel. It's hard to argue that they are the cause.
Inceldom is nothing new to be honest.
Throughout evolution, less than 40% of men got to reproduce.
Women are evolutionary designed to be hypergamic.
Things like online dating and social media has made women even more selective than they really are because it makes them think they have a lot of options, which is partially true.
About incel forums, yes, incels would have to exist for teh forums to exist. Do you think that the reinforcement from sites like these can help solidify inceldom for someone who would have otherwise been able to free themselves from their virginity?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I'll disagree, as in it's not the online echo chambers/social media/etc. creating incels, but the chitty parenting/problems while growing up. Kids get neglected/abused/mistreated, parents don't give a chit about raising them, so they'll most likely have problems fitting in/building a social circle and unless they manage to make a change, it will eventually snowball into inceldom. And of course if one is miserable and tries to look for similar cases/issues, they'll eventually stumble on these echo chambers, and it's all downhill from there.When I think of myself growing up, I think I could have easily been an incel.
I was skinny, manlet, into nerdy chit like math, reading, anime, and video games. Had low self esteem, likely the result of my father not being around much. Would sometimes be all beta and chit and cry about not finding a gf n chit. Somehow I managed to tough it out and get into a fight every now and then and eventually find my way into a few vaginas.
But what if I started going on forums and meeting similar people? What if I surrounded myself with others who couldn't figure out how to get girls? What if I had people reassuring me that i was incapable of getting a girl because of "X" reason or because I looked like "X"? I was in a vulnerable spot in mental development and growth. Something like that would have effected me in a bad way. I think a lot of incels are convinced that they are meant to be what they are, and not that they're voluntarily that way.
Seems like a trap that would be easy to fall into. Can any cels confirm?
I was skinny, manlet, into nerdy chit like math, reading, anime, and video games. Had low self esteem, likely the result of my father not being around much. Would sometimes be all beta and chit and cry about not finding a gf n chit. Somehow I managed to tough it out and get into a fight every now and then and eventually find my way into a few vaginas.
But what if I started going on forums and meeting similar people? What if I surrounded myself with others who couldn't figure out how to get girls? What if I had people reassuring me that i was incapable of getting a girl because of "X" reason or because I looked like "X"? I was in a vulnerable spot in mental development and growth. Something like that would have effected me in a bad way. I think a lot of incels are convinced that they are meant to be what they are, and not that they're voluntarily that way.
Seems like a trap that would be easy to fall into. Can any cels confirm?
I'll also reckon that social media isn't inherently bad, it's "just" the people that have turned it into the chitshow it is today.
Some parents - and by extension their children as well - simply will not take personal responsibility for their actions, and will just deflect and blame others. Just look at bullies/problem kids/school shooters etc., it's almost NEVER the parents' fault, there's always some kind of external factor that gets the blame
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Interesting position and I definitely see the merit in it. Definitely can't overlook how big parenting plays a role in this. I think low self esteem in general stems from parenting issues, and there's no such thing as an incel with high self esteem.I'll disagree, as in it's not the online echo chambers/social media/etc. creating incels, but the chitty parenting/problems while growing up. Kids get neglected/abused/mistreated, parents don't give a chit about raising them, so they'll most likely have problems fitting in/building a social circle and unless they manage to make a change, it will eventually snowball into inceldom. And of course if one is miserable and tries to look for similar cases/issues, they'll eventually stumble on these echo chambers, and it's all downhill from there.
I'll also reckon that social media isn't inherently bad, it's "just" the people that have turned it into the chitshow it is today.
Some parents - and by extension their children as well - simply will not take personal responsibility for their actions, and will just deflect and blame others. Just look at bullies/problem kids/school shooters etc., it's almost NEVER the parents' fault, there's always some kind of external factor that gets the blame
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"my 12-14-15-etc year old son is a total recluse playing video games, what should I do?"
"Duh, maybe you should have paid attention to raising him when he was a child."
"No, it must be those Soundcloud rappers and the xy-ism that's going on. I have to work a lot, you know and I love him from the depth of my heart, but I just can't get through".
I'll also reckon that social media isn't inherently bad, it's "just" the people that have turned it into the chitshow it is today.
Some parents - and by extension their children as well - simply will not take personal responsibility for their actions, and will just deflect and blame others. Just look at bullies/problem kids/school shooters etc., it's almost NEVER the parents' fault, there's always some kind of external factor that gets the blame
brb
"my 12-14-15-etc year old son is a total recluse playing video games, what should I do?"
"Duh, maybe you should have paid attention to raising him when he was a child."
"No, it must be those Soundcloud rappers and the xy-ism that's going on. I have to work a lot, you know and I love him from the depth of my heart, but I just can't get through".
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02-10-2020, 10:29 AM
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It’s definitely a big factor, although admittedly some guys are fukked and destined to be incels due to factors outside of their control, lots of other dudes are incels only because of their mindset. I was one of them for a few years and ironically the misc pulled me out of it. There’s a lot of incel/LDAR people here but there’s also a lot of people who encourage self improvement and basically not being a pussy.
I had spent a lot of time on 4chan and subreddits like r/MGtoW and had developed an image of myself in my head as a guy who’s too socially awkward for a girl to ever like me. If I had stayed in those echo chambers I’d still be a virgin and rotting away playing video games 12 hours a day. I’m super grateful for the dudes here who manage to stay positive and not encourage rotting.
I had spent a lot of time on 4chan and subreddits like r/MGtoW and had developed an image of myself in my head as a guy who’s too socially awkward for a girl to ever like me. If I had stayed in those echo chambers I’d still be a virgin and rotting away playing video games 12 hours a day. I’m super grateful for the dudes here who manage to stay positive and not encourage rotting.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
True. I think that's when mental illness comes into play. It's like the people who ask a question then get 100 helpful answers but don't think any of them will work. People are weirdBut what blows my mind is how often someone posts their face and you have personally known people much uglier that are getting laid. I'm talking self proclaimed incels with average or slightly below average that say looks are the reason.
Now ugly makes some sense, especially really ugly, but average people saying looks hold them back is craziness to me.
You're right about the combination of things though. Maybe a lot of things have to go wrong for it to happen.
Now ugly makes some sense, especially really ugly, but average people saying looks hold them back is craziness to me.
You're right about the combination of things though. Maybe a lot of things have to go wrong for it to happen.
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