Originally Posted By FA*******⏩

Anyway, I think the deal with incels and low self-esteem (as pointed out by another poster, theotherconstant besides habitual Pornhub use) is that they want validation from women more than they actually want women. The root of that low self-esteem comes from, shocker, being constantly rejected for years and years and treated differently from attractive guys.

I remember for example, Otakutrevan said that his founding blackpill moment of sorts was in middle school and he was naively trying to show off his Game Boy Pokemon games to girls, and they were having none of that chit. Then one day, middle school Chad starts talking about Pokemon and the chicks are all over him, "ohmaigawd, IloveCharizard!"

And the natural conclusion anyone's going to draw from that is, "what's so different about him? What's wrong withme?"

So take that everyday sexual frustration, pair it with a shot of self-loathing, and repeat every day for years and years. Some chick in tight yoga pants at the gym is flirting with a Chad. A chick going for a run in a well-filled sports bra jogs right past you like you don't exist. Girls give you one-word answers at parties, then gush all over your friends. It really starts internalizing that you're unwanted.

And then dudes are like "if you want sex, just get a hooker. Can't be incel when you can pay for sex whenever!" That's a glib response that just misses the entire fukking point. Buying hookers just confirms that chicks will never want anything to do with you - they have to be paid hundreds of dollars just to let you touch them. And as far as the sex - you can jerk off to chicks just as hot as any local hooker for free on your cell phone.

I don't think incel brahs even want to have sex with these women, per se. They can get their nuts off to a Riley Reid compilation at any time - what a porn videocan'tgive them is that feeling of acceptance from other people, that they're not unwanted by half of humanity.

That undercurrent of rejection and self-loathing obviously fuels the discussion on any incel thread you want to pull up, and the easy access of internet porn keeps them stuck there. To use an analogy, it's like sexual frustration is a chronic pain that flares up and bothers you almost every day, and porn is like some REALLY powerful opiates that will temporarily numb it. The porn's never going to make the pain away (you're just going to keep LDAR'ing), but going outside and getting rejected just aggravates it even more, so how long are you going to try and cure it when you can just quench it on demand. And when that becomes a habit, you just end up stuck in a rut in the same pattern.

Tbh, if you look at incel boards, it almost sounds like a bunch of addicts or something off an Alice In Chains album. You have the depression, the self-loathing, the feelings of powerlessness to change it all, and the anger when someone says they may have a problem.

I think the best way to change it would be to be accepted by women, but women get hit on by dozens of weird dudes all the time and some of them are alotmore fukked up than your average coomer. So, the bitch shields have to stay up just for their own preservation. That's where therealincel survival strategy comes up - nuclear levels of cope and unwillingness to change their situation.

IME, you usually see this with the 30+ incel crowd, like InstantLoser or Wincel. I like both those guys, but you can tell that they've built up some SERIOUS mental defenses when it comes to chicks. The 20some incel crowd gets angry about their life, but the 30yos have just accepted and become numb to it - after spending so much of their lives alone and unwanted, it's almost more of a problem if some woman was to come into the picture and tries to change it. You're flipping decades of reality on its head there.

Thank you for attending my thesis defense on incels. You may now refer to me as Dr. *******.

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