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post 1598902581 03-02-2020, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
not true, go look up what ben pakulskiand jay cutler used. Also the metabolites and receptors get desensitized over time and serum levels drop. What made someone double natty at the beginning, will only put them at natty levels years down the road.

Theres not really any research on this because they arent collecting people up for taking in 2 gallong of OJ a day vs 2 glasses a day for health reasons ethically, but anecdotally from a lot of professionals they are saying they have learned the more is more was complete bullchit and when they dropped way down, the gains were the same, and going all the way down to OJ replacement therapy levels didnt cause a significant decrease in gains

Chris Aceto is definitively the best bodybuilding coach of our time, he makes almost all his athleted go on no more than a gram of OJ a week total, including orange apple, orange grape, and regular orange juice all totaled together.
According to who? Jay Cutler? I don't believe a word he says. In fact I don't believe anyone in the fitness industry, especially those who are peddling supps, diet plans and other useless chite (e.g. Jay Cutler).

"Always just took TRT doses, guys. The rest was good supps and a good diet. By the way be sure to buy my supps and box diet plan."

You know your guys, jestbrah, and I know my guys. And the boys I know are running grams and spending a small fortune on gear. And they're just on the amateur circuit.

Anyway, this interview is the IFBB OJ gospel as far as I'm concerned. Dude seems to be 100% transparent exactly because he isn't peddling a single ounce of snake oil.

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that dude is a giga chad.

jokes on you, i dont do LTR
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Originally Posted By Brosnbroccoli⏩
A LOT of people have good genetics and work hard AND drink orange juice, which is why he would be nothing special without... “cognitive dissonance” LMAO, we’re not comparing him to the average Joe.
Phil Heath is literally called the gift, but how many Mr. O titles do you think he would have?

Truth is that some dudes can’t gain any meaningful size without the morning vitamins, but when they remember to take their vitamins they blow up and become crazy aesthetics.
Maybe this guy is one of them, maybe he isn’t. Who knows.

Also I don’t believe for a second that his work ethtic is top 5%, and top 1% please gtfo. Maybe if compared to the average Joe, but we’re obviously comparing him to other pro BB’ers.
Dis. I'm 6'2 200lbs and relatively lean in good lighting (lol), but nowhere near this dude. Guarantee if I took the vitamins he's taking I could get there with relative ease tho.
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Do people actually believe that this guy still wouldn't have a respectable physique without the OJ??? Juice or not the guy clearly understands proper training and nutrition with good genetics.
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Originally Posted By mobp⏩
For all y'all criticizing the girl, that's a good looking girl, the only valid criticism is too much makeup. Think about a fully loaded honda accord vs a base ferrarri. The base ferrarri is still better. That girl isn't blond, asian, big tits, w/e else y'all fetishize, but underneath it all is a very pretty girl. Much better than an ugly girl with all the bells and whistles.
That bish is at least an 8 and dat ass is hnnnnng
But the dude is mogging her just cause he is a 9,5 (no homer)
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Originally Posted By LooksMaximus⏩
According to who? Jay Cutler?

You know your guys, jestbrah, and I know my guys. And the boys I know are running grams and spending a small fortune on gear. And they're just on the amateur circuit.
first statement- no according to his longtime coach and friend Chris Aceto.

Second statement- thats the problem with bodybuilding and probably one of the reasons those guys are only on the amateur circuit. They think the answer is drugs, when in reality the answer is learning all the truths behind how hypertrophy works with workout regimen and dieting in the correct fashion of scaling food upwards and downwards at the right velocity.

Also to the second statement there inlies another major issue, your friends are in the amateur circuit, i have a lot of friends in the pro circuit including ones who compete at the olympia and ones competing at the Arnold in a few days. They all take "conservative' amounts of OJ, much like I said totaling close to 1g of orange juice and orange juice like products altogether, meanwhile you have idiots thinking they need to take 3-4 grams of OJ and its friends and look like sloppy bloatlords with massive blood pressures and **** physiques.
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Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin⏩
Do people actually believe that this guy still wouldn't have a respectable physique without the OJ??? Juice or not the guy clearly understands proper training and nutrition with good genetics.
no thats not the issue, the issue is people saying he looks like he looks because of OJ primarily and that its not respectable because it would be "easy" for most miscers to look like him if they were on OJ too, the only difference between him and most miscers is the OJ, nothing else.

AKA coping that they never will achieve a physique like that and rather than blame internal mechanisms like knowledge, discipline, tenacity, perseverance, genetics, etc... its easy to just say its the OJ
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Strong jawline progress too


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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
AKA coping that they never will achieve a physique like that and rather than blame internal mechanisms like knowledge, discipline, tenacity, perseverance, genetics, etc... its easy to just say its the OJ
that's a little too far. brb cheating and taking a shortcut = discipline, tenacity, perseverance. mmkay. how about the fact that we just said he can eat more due to taking?

you're biased as fuk dude

and once again, i agree they wouldn't look the same. but i dont think its outlandish for those to insinuate if they took they'd look better

lets break this down how it drastically changed his appearance

he'd be:

less full, muscles less big, he'd prob be a bit more pudgy due to the problem of gaining muscle + fat, his shoulders would be smaller, etc., etc. he'd be less thick overall.

and judging by the pic in post 159 he also had growth due to a hormone in the jaw area

again, he would look drastically different if he weren't on. or hadn't ever been on

though he does have good genetics, and could look good natty due to insertions and stuff
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Originally Posted By Slurgie⏩
Strong jawline progress too


but he was literally 16 or 17 in the first pic, not even out of high school, most jaw aesthetic changes happen between that age and early 20s.

His physique as a teeanger is better than 90% of miscers who are in their mid 20s and have been lifting for a decade
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Misc always has the latest gossip on these Chets. No clue who he is. Wtf are you guys looking at on social media.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
no thats not the issue, the issue is people saying he looks like he looks because of OJ primarily and that its not respectable because it would be "easy" for most miscers to look like him if they were on OJ too, the only difference between him and most miscers is the OJ, nothing else.

AKA coping that they never will achieve a physique like that and rather than blame internal mechanisms like knowledge, discipline, tenacity, perseverance, genetics, etc... its easy to just say its the OJ
The guy in the interview above you literally said you can eat tons of calories including junk and still lose fat. That you can literally take vitamin a right before a photo shoot and get instant size.

That interview blew your argument out of the water.
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Originally Posted By OutdoorsBrah⏩
Lol act like homie is getting it up with all that Tren he is running.





Just lol
I get horny as hell when I Trein hard- no impairment. And caber isn't hard to purchase... Like goddam sexual Tyrannosaurus.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
first statement- no according to his longtime coach and friend Chris Aceto.

Second statement- thats the problem with bodybuilding and probably one of the reasons those guys are only on the amateur circuit. They think the answer is drugs, when in reality the answer is learning all the truths behind how hypertrophy works with workout regimen and dieting in the correct fashion of scaling food upwards and downwards at the right velocity.

Also to the second statement there inlies another major issue, your friends are in the amateur circuit, i have a lot of friends in the pro circuit including ones who compete at the olympia and ones competing at the Arnold in a few days. They all take "conservative' amounts of OJ, much like I said totaling close to 1g of orange juice and orange juice like products altogether, meanwhile you have idiots thinking they need to take 3-4 grams of OJ and its friends and look like sloppy bloatlords with massive blood pressures and **** physiques.
1 gram of OJ and 10 ius of GH, insulin and other peptides and we're good to go.
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Dudes hotter than her.


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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
but he was literally 16 or 17 in the first pic, not even out of high school, most jaw aesthetic changes happen between that age and early 20s.

His physique as a teeanger is better than 90% of miscers who are in their mid 20s and have been lifting for a decade
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
not true, go look up what ben pakulski and jay cutler used. Also the metabolites and receptors get desensitized over time and serum levels drop. What made someone double natty at the beginning, will only put them at natty levels years down the road.

Theres not really any research on this because they arent collecting people up for taking in 2 gallong of OJ a day vs 2 glasses a day for health reasons ethically, but anecdotally from a lot of professionals they are saying they have learned the more is more was complete bullchit and when they dropped way down, the gains were the same, and going all the way down to OJ replacement therapy levels didnt cause a significant decrease in gains

Chris Aceto is definitively the best bodybuilding coach of our time, he makes almost all his athleted go on no more than a gram of OJ a week total, including orange apple, orange grape, and regular orange juice all totaled together.
You know a lot more about this stuff than I do so riddle me this, If replacement therapy levels can get people looking like Jay Cutler then why are all the gym rats that are actually on replacement levels not looking like IFBB pros?

The biggest guys I've known didn't work any harder or smarter to get big so its something else. For reference just look at Eric Krazynski or whatever his name is youtube. Dude went from a 120 lb 16 y/o to 250 lb lean 23 y/o who looks 40 while doing quarter squats with 225
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Originally Posted By Brosnbroccoli⏩
A LOT of people have good genetics and work hard AND drink orange juice, which is why he would be nothing special without... “cognitive dissonance” LMAO, we’re not comparing him to the average Joe.
Phil Heath is literally called the gift, but how many Mr. O titles do you think he would have?

Truth is that some dudes can’t gain any meaningful size without the morning vitamins, but when they remember to take their vitamins they blow up and become crazy aesthetics.
Maybe this guy is one of them, maybe he isn’t. Who knows.

Also I don’t believe for a second that his work ethtic is top 5%, and top 1% please gtfo. Maybe if compared to the average Joe,but we’re obviously comparing him to other pro BB’ers .
LOL now we're getting somewhere even though you still evaded really answering my question. All of you massive coping haters ITT use qualitative words like "good", "bad", "nothing special" etc., but then don't clearly define what those mean. But apparently this whole time we've been comparing this guy to pro BB'ers lmao!

Come on now, you guys aren't trying to discredit him when compared to pro BB'ers. I mean if you are, then what a stupid pointless commentary and just goes to show that you guys will move and set the bar as high as needed just to be able to say something negative about someone to make you feel better about yourself.

And since presumably you're not a pro bb'er then you must be willing to admit he would look WAYYY better than you, all the coping *******s ITT, and obviously the general population, even without the juice. And with this being true why the need to say anything negative or detracting about him in the first place? Cause COPE that's why.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
first statement- no according to his longtime coach and friend Chris Aceto.

Second statement- thats the problem with bodybuilding and probably one of the reasons those guys are only on the amateur circuit. They think the answer is drugs, when in reality the answer is learning all the truths behind how hypertrophy works with workout regimen and dieting in the correct fashion of scaling food upwards and downwards at the right velocity.

Also to the second statement there inlies another major issue, your friends are in the amateur circuit, i have a lot of friends in the pro circuit including ones who compete at the olympia and ones competing at the Arnold in a few days. They all take "conservative' amounts of OJ, much like I said totaling close to 1g of orange juice and orange juice like products altogether, meanwhile you have idiots thinking they need to take 3-4 grams of OJ and its friends and look like sloppy bloatlords with massive blood pressures and **** physiques.
LMAO, I had a top 10 mr O tell us he was taking 30iu of pharm nitrotech a day.

Its 2020, surely no one believes the Lee priest,arnie or Dorian lies anymore? Reminds me of Dante on IM trying to bullchit the gullible kids into believing the secret to his D list pros being 270lbs was waxy maize and beef aminos

Edit, i think anyone taking more than TRT+ doses is retarded anyway tbh, 99.9% of people are just wasting their time and they dont have the metabolism to avoid the harmful side effects of drinking lots of shakes every day
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
The guy in the interview above you literally said you can eat tons of calories including junk and still lose fat. That you can literally take vitamin a right before a photo shoot and get instant size.

That interview blew your argument out of the water.
There is certain OJ that will allow you to eat like crazy and still lose fat.
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Originally Posted By Madvillainy⏩
what if she posted this and said this was a friendly embrace that they always did, and that he's such a close friend

Brojob! Brojob! Choo Choo!
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Originally Posted By Slurgie⏩
Strong jawline progress too


interesting.

My dude is a wristcel.

Bringing hope for all us wristcel brahs.
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It blows my mind how there's a juicer internet defense force that shows up in every thread to argue something to the effect of it's 10% juice and 90% hard work.

Then again, maybe it doesn't. The kind of person insecure enough to juice as a recreational lifter has serious issues. Misinformation to make themselves look better isn't out of character.
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Originally Posted By mobp⏩
It blows my mind how there's a juicer internet defense force that shows up in every thread to argue something to the effect of it's 10% juice and 90% hard work.

Then again, maybe it doesn't. The kind of person insecure enough to juice as a recreational lifter has serious issues. Misinformation to make themselves look better isn't out of character.
This is true. The mental gymnastics they go thru to try to make natties feel like we don't work hard enough.


Nah bro if you lifted and watched your diet you'd almost get there.
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How in the fuk is this thread 6 pages now? It's just a photo guise. Cot damn
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i get what you're saying. not everybody will be the same. yes, there will be separation from people just as you see at bb competitions

but without what we're talking about he might look 1/2 as good.

he's bigger, he's leaner, he's more shredded than he'd be otherwise. he's lifting more than he would otherwise, he's recovering faster than he would otherwise. studies have even shown because of the advantages when taking, he might be able to come back natty and achieve more because he took. he eats more than he would otherwise, his diet doesn't matter as much otherwise, etc., etc.

i think even within your discretion there's distinction that you're not saying it doesn't help, because it definitely does, but you're main point is just that not everybody will look the same.
What are you even arguing about. Brb criticizing every NFL player for using help, every sprinter, every pro bber, etc. We aint talking about an average joe here, dude in OP is ELITE.

Talk **** about juicers when they look **** or average, thats when it applies. Otherwise it makes you look like a coping crybaby.
Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
that's a little too far. brb cheating and taking a shortcut = discipline, tenacity, perseverance. mmkay. how about the fact that we just said he can eat more due to taking?
Cheating what? Cheating who? LOL. He isnt taking a "shortcut", hes taking the only fukin way, absolutelly nobody on the world could look like that guy natty. Taking a shortcut is when you take **** to have just a good physique or good strenght. When you are taking **** to go BEYOND what its naturally possibly, then that isnt a shortcut lmao.

Your argument could be used to talk **** about 99.99% of steroid users who btw dont even get close to reaching the level of the guy in OP. He has a better physique than 99.99% of JUICERS, let alone regular people.

You think it doesnt take hard work and elite genetics to be top 1% of steroid users? Thats equally as hard or even harder than being top 1% of natural lifters while still being a natural. Different leagues, but equally impressive feats.

For every guy like in the OP, you have another hundred thousand juicers trying to make it, but they dont have the genetics or dont put enough hard work to make it.

Btw i guarantee that if this guy dedicated himself to lifting naturally, hed have better body than most juicers anyway. You cant achieve those muscle insertions with just hard work and juice, that **** is also about being lucky when your DNA code is forming inside your body as a gotdam fetus.
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Originally Posted By Madvillainy⏩
she says her old friend chad was in town and thought it would be nice to take a picture for old time's sake

he's way hotter than she is. So i'd smash him. No Homo
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
What are you even arguing about. Brb criticizing every NFL player for using help, every sprinter, every pro bber, etc. We aint talking about an average joe here, dude in OP is ELITE.

Talk **** about juicers when they look **** or average, thats when it applies. Otherwise it makes you look like a coping crybaby.



Cheating what? Cheating who? LOL. He isnt taking a "shortcut", hes taking the only fukin way, absolutelly nobody on the world could look like that guy natty. Taking a shortcut is when you take **** to have just a good physique or good strenght. When you are taking **** to go BEYOND what its naturally possibly, then that isnt a shortcut lmao.

Your argument could be used to talk **** about 99.99% of steroid users who btw dont even get close to reaching the level of the guy in OP. He has a better physique than 99.99% of JUICERS, let alone regular people.

You think it doesnt take hard work and elite genetics to be top 1% of steroid users? Thats equally as hard or even harder than being top 1% of natural lifters while still being a natural. Different leagues, but equally impressive feats.

For every guy like in the OP, you have another hundred thousand juicers trying to make it, but they dont have the genetics or dont put enough hard work to make it.

Btw i guarantee that if this guy dedicated himself to lifting naturally, hed have better body than most juicers anyway. You cant achieve those muscle insertions with just hard work and juice, that **** is also about being lucky when your DNA code is forming inside your body as a gotdam fetus.
Vast majority of NFL players are clean.
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Vast majority of NFL players are clean.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Vast majority of NFL players are clean.


How can you believe that OJ makes things easy to the point where you don't respect people who use it but at the same time think with millions of dollars on the line a bunch of dudes who beat their wives and use recreational drugs would be above using a substance that would give them a performance advantage?
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