Morning MFC.

What are we arguing about today?

Forgot I ordered these lol





How many mcdonnems nuggets you guys think you can eat in an hour?

Me and a few buddies tried to hit 100 each yesterday. I only made it to 80. Felt pretty horrible after. wya meatie????

I'm more into Kurger Bing myself. Fite me.

A good TP supply is like mag capacity.

How much TP do you really need? One more roll than the other guy has.

Anyone get the license plate of the truck that ran over the stock market?

I meant to try Wendy’s breakfast yesterday but didn’t get out of bed until 2:00.

Burger King is like bottom tier fast food tho srs

no chit. cannot wait til this is over. it's 100% virus panic. Even if we shut down for a while, everything should start right back up when we come out of our holes.

I tend to agree.

I have been nibbling into XOM on the way down. Not a ton and it looks ugly right now . . . but I'm holding this one loooong term and XOM/Oil is not going to stay this low forever. Eventually that's all gonna bounce way back.

I just let my dog lick my hands, great sanitizer

Anyone get the license plate of the truck that ran over the stock market?

Anyone get the license plate of the truck that ran over the stock market?

I'm scared to look at my investment dashboard

I meant to try Wendy’s breakfast yesterday but didn’t get out of bed until 2:00.

Burger King is like bottom tier fast food tho srs

What’s happening with Sons of Liberty? I heard people are going hard on them but for what?

And what’s this AR mag loading drama going on? Heard there’s two people fighting about 29 vs 30 rounds?

What’s happening with Sons of Liberty? I heard people are going hard on them but for what?

And what’s this AR mag loading drama going on? Heard there’s two people fighting about 29 vs 30 rounds?

We like to argue about trivial things because we don't know how to disagree and if the other person thinks they're right then it makes me wrong. Don't even get me started if it's a subjective matter, if I like vanilla but you hate it and I just let you get away with that then it will change my reality and vanilla will taste less good.

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yeah I don't think that's the case at all

It has to do with Youtube's newest gun community celery, John Lovell (War Poet Society) claiming that he downloads to 29rds, and pressheck saying that it isn't necessary unless you are running some aftermarket floorplate that changes spring tension under load. John saying that on a closed bolt, he sees people all the time not locking the mag in the catch on a 30rd fully loaded mag.

I will admit, under stress and timer, I've mis-loaded a 30rd mag before on a closed bolt, and it falls out. It's weird because I can easily lock a fully loaded mag, but when doing it quickly, I forget to really push in and do a pull check. Comes down to training I guess, but it happens.

yeah I don't think that's the case at all

It has to do with Youtube's newest gun community celery, John Lovell (War Poet Society) claiming that he downloads to 29rds, and pressheck saying that it isn't necessary unless you are running some aftermarket floorplate that changes spring tension under load. John saying that on a closed bolt, he sees people all the time not locking the mag in the catch on a 30rd fully loaded mag.

I will admit, under stress and timer, I've mis-loaded a 30rd mag before on a closed bolt, and it falls out. It's weird because I can easily lock a fully loaded mag, but when doing it quickly, I forget to really push in and do a pull check. Comes down to training I guess, but it happens.

Since I'm sure this is what we'll argue about on and off till the end of the forum, I'll post what I do, even though I don't expect anybody to GAF what I do because why would they? But here are things I do and more importantlywhyso you can understand where I'm coming from. I don't expect anybody else to do anything the same unless they individually decide to for their own reason(s).

I download every spare magazine. Usually -1 for spare pistol mags and -2 for spare rifle mags. Why? I have seen too many people, and have myself, done the above mentioned closed-action insertion that seemed good but wasn't. My analysis says it basically will never matter to me either way, let's be honest, but,if it does,I believe I'm more likely to fubar the reload and not seat the mag all the way...than I am to do a 'tac reload' and then need literally every last round from that mag. I'm perfectly fine "only" having 14 or 16 rounds in my pistol reload or "only" having 28 rounds in my 5.56 reload.

I load pistols completely, round in the chamber and completely loaded/topped off magazines (so, +1). Why? There's no reason not to. They get loaded ahead of time and then kept in a holster. There's no legitimate downside at all to this that I have ever been made aware of, so...take the more ammo especially since it's in the gun without need to bring or execute a reload. In the event I were to have an unholstered pistol kept available, with an inserted mag and empty chamber, the mag would be fully loaded, again, because why not, never had an issue racking the slide on a full mag vs partial, and ammoin the gunis a something I do like to have maxed out much more so than worrying about how much is in a reload. Private citizen shootings are almost always ended one way or the other with only what is in the gun that is in reach at the start, and nothing more.

I keep long guns 'cruiser ready', that is, loaded magazine inserted, action closed, safety on, empty chamber. Why? Because I don't keep long guns on me or within arms reach forright nowuse the way I do with pistols. Long gun is usually in a quick access safe, on the passenger floorboard, in the back seat, in the trunk, whatever. If I have time to go grab it, I likely have time to rack it as I am picking it up. I also don't have immediate positive control over it when it's not on my person, as I do for a carried pistol, so I want that extra layer of safety in case any other person gets their hands on it. If and when I carry a long gun in a sling on me, I rack one into the chamber as I slung up. Basically I treat the long gun in my hands or in a sling (safety engaged of course) as a pistol in a holster. Also also I know manual safeties on a rifle are akin to a holster for a pistol, but I just don't trust a rifle bouncing around in the car not held by a person with a loaded chamber. Safeties can get caught on all kinds of stuff, as can triggers, and I want long guns kept the same way at all times for consistency (slung on me or in my hands for use, fully loaded, anywhere else where I have to pick it up to use it, chamber is empty it needs racked)

I use my support hand thumb to drop the slide release/bolt release on a locked-back reload. Why? It's faster, and it's the most consistent across all of my firearms. Any of my semi auto pistols, or an AR, it's basically an identical motion. I've never had a problem missing the slide release, and this is one that even if you do miss it, at least you know immediately, you don't keep going and only find out when you go to shoot even if that's 30 seconds later or whatever.

If the pistol "auto-forwards" when I slam the magazine in,I manually rack the slide.Why? It's possible to hit it off center and bump it such that the slide comes forward without chambering a round. I've seen people do this and I have done it on the clock during a qualification as well. And you may not know it right away either...you could just be standing around behind cover with your thumb up your ass for 20 seconds and then when you need to shoot *CLICK*. Now, I will admit there is an argument for racking the slide by hand every time no matter what, it's consistent, you do the same thing for any type of reload, and you don't have to worry about doing something different if it auto forwards or not. But that's not what I choose.

I generally do not choose to or train to retain partial magazines. My 'tactical' reload sequence is: 1) Decide to reload, 2) Retrieve new magazine with support hand and bring it up towards the firearm, 3) at that time drop the old mag free and immediately insert the new mag 4) let old mag hit the deck. If I'm behind cover or otherwise not moving I might pick the mag up and shove it in a pocket but probably not. Why? I'm more concerned with getting a new mag in the gun than anything else, and fumbling around with two mags in my hand at the same time to retain the old one is more complicated and increases the chances I fubar it and drop the new mag or just plain take too long, it's more steps it does take longer. The ammo in the spare mag will have to be enough. I choose to be fine "only" having the 14 or 16 or 28 or whatever it is that's in the reload.

What matters is you choose what you do based on an understanding of the pros and cons of the available choices and train consistently