Fantasy. No doubt that he has the info, but he isn't presenting it, and may not be interpreting it clearly due to his own thought processes. The same thing happened during his interactions with military leadership.

Trump was eager to get his shots in at China, but dealing with Americans is another story. There is no serious question right now that Trump is trying to downplay the situation for the sake of the market while health authorities are running against his wishes to try to get information to the public. The media has been unfair to him in some ways, but you don't even need to follow the reporting, just watch the press conferences directly, to see him make misstatements before his own experts patiently correct him. The mainstream reporting is consistent with that visible reality, but now there's a steady stream of disinformation coming out of hillbillies on ******** and Twitter because they think Trump's Twitter account is telling them the entire truth and that the media is therefore lying when they accurately report what his own administration is trying to tell the public.

Lifelong Republican here who worked on multiple federal campaigns, but Trump has a persistent problem with trying to revert to real estate hype tactics that are good for raising money for a project but less effective for critical decision-making. Trump, IMO, is an effective candidate but a mediocre leader - and also a populist fiscal catastrophe and not a conservative of any kind. Still not voting for Biden or Sanders. Might write in Dr. Schnabel von Rom.

So based on other countries, at this point in time from the first few cases being discovered, US numbers should be going up at an alarming rate if the spread had gotten out of hand.
So this means one of two things:
- We were able to decently manage the spread
- We simply aren't testing enough people to confirm they do indeed have it so the numbers are terribly off

Was the Spanish Flu an illusion then? Bubonic plague which lasted for hundred of years? The reality is this is having the exact opposite of control-like Italians going on the run over the weekend rather than being isolated. What exactly is your logic here? That this is something created in a lab to be injected into large swathes of people which shuts down countries & to put people out of business? How would that benefit anybody in power if everybody is either dead or in quarantine? What power do these people have when their economy is in the crapper?

Yeah stock market is taking a big hit. Travel bans preventing circulation of money isnt helping either. But imagine the person to make the vaccine for this. MILLIONS.

supposedly.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...s-vaccine.html

I feel it's the second option. This has been stateside since December/January. The spread already happened.

EvenIFthey have a successful vaccine, it will be a year minimum before it's tested and OK'd to actually give to humans. By then, the virus will have been gone. (At least until next flu season.)

Look into Legionnaire's Disease.

I suspect we're going to end up discovering something weird that we're doing that explains these concentrated outbreaks and ends up changing sanitation practices.

still getting the ball rolling

I feel it's the second option. This has been stateside since December/January. The spread already happened.

I feel it's the second option. This has been stateside since December/January. The spread already happened.

100% agree, I think al lot of the cases were identified as the flu, although the flu tests were negative for a lot of people, no one was being actively tested until recently. The major wave was in January, schools were hit hard, blamed on the "flu".

That's true. But we supposedly have in excess of one million test kits distributed.I would think (uhhh, hope) at this point ANYONE with flu symptoms is getting tested for it at their family doctor, etc.We, in theory, should have been seeing serious spikes in numbers over the last few days.

Oh, God, no, we're not anywhere near doing that. None of that is happening.

Basically, you're only getting tested if your doctor proactively demands it, and even then, it probably just can't be performed.

Then just lmfao. There's probably thousands of US cases just walking around spreading it.

I don’t understand why people are still worried China has had this for months, and the death rate there has stopped it seems like.

Seems like they got it under control and they have conditions that seem to be the worst for doing so.

I don’t understand why people are still worried China has had this for months, and the death rate there has stopped it seems like.

Seems like they got it under control and they have conditions that seem to be the worst for doing so.

I don’t understand why people are still worried China has had this for months, and the death rate there has stopped it seems like.

Seems like they got it under control and they have conditions that seem to be the worst for doing so.

Look into Legionnaire's Disease.

I suspect we're going to end up discovering something weird that we're doing that explains these concentrated outbreaks and ends up changing sanitation practices.

I feel it's the second option. This has been stateside since December/January. The spread already happened.

100% agree, I think al lot of the cases were identified as the flu, although the flu tests were negative for a lot of people, no one was being actively tested until recently. The major wave was in January, schools were hit hard, blamed on the "flu".

That's true. But we supposedly have in excess of one million test kits distributed. I would think (uhhh, hope) at this point ANYONE with flu symptoms is getting tested for it at their family doctor, etc. We, in theory, should have been seeing serious spikes in numbers over the last few days.

Why arent hospitals overwhelmed with people dying of an unknown virus then

idk if this was posted but we had a doctor here in BC Canada, our official health officer, who's studied and fought against SARS, h1n1, polio, and the other major viruses, but she cried on TV when giving news of coronavirus, so i think it's way more serious than anything else. never even seen a medical professional come close to being emotional



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either we are ****ed, or we are not ready, which is the same thing lol

This, for me the issue is currently there are 2 camps; The 'Its just a flu, bro' camp and the full on apocalypse mode camp. The reality is probably somewhere in the middle. Yes this could get bad, but the vast majority will make it through just fine. Be prepared, but don't panic.

Everyone saying be prepared but don't panic are being accused of not taking it seriously enough.

Thsts all trump is doing. That's all his admiration is doing.

It's not like they're saying it doesnt exist, they're saying theres no reason to panic

Because we didn't have one small area like Wuhan get mass infected at one time. Anything stateside most likely came from traveling, and is scattered throughout the country. Plus many deaths could have been attributed to flu/pneumonia.

Gotta be logical.... if this virus was going around all of December in China, and with all the travel in/out of there, it didn't just magically show up in the middle of February. It's been circulating around for over 2 months.