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03-09-2020, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
It's more than just mag reloads. If you are set in all of your "this is how I do it" on everything and know all the options and all the reasons, you won't gain anything from reading it.Please tell me that's a copypasta because no the fuk way am I reading that wall of text on magazine loads.
03-09-2020, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
hamonicaI fuked up on a reload that way in relatively tame "firefight" once and since then I haven't loaded a duty magazine to capacity. Just not worth it to happen again if it's under stress and in a serious life/death situation. Still train with full mags and have never had an issue before/after but I'd rather have one less round than risk a failed reload that you're unaware of until it's potentially too late.
Also do the exact same things as Farley for pretty much the exact same reasons, with the exception of tac reloads I retain the magazine just because range staff will chew me out if I don't. Ideally I'd drop that fuker though. I normally have plenty of magazines, the less fine motor skills I have to worry about in a high stress/combat situation the better. I also think drilling into people to ALWAYS retain magazines during combat reloads is stupid - at the range you see guys who don't shoot a lot who are drilled like this retain their completely empty magazines because they confuse a standard reload with a tac reload.
Also do the exact same things as Farley for pretty much the exact same reasons, with the exception of tac reloads I retain the magazine just because range staff will chew me out if I don't. Ideally I'd drop that fuker though. I normally have plenty of magazines, the less fine motor skills I have to worry about in a high stress/combat situation the better. I also think drilling into people to ALWAYS retain magazines during combat reloads is stupid - at the range you see guys who don't shoot a lot who are drilled like this retain their completely empty magazines because they confuse a standard reload with a tac reload.
03-09-2020, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Never heard of "cliffs"?It's more than just mag reloads. If you are set in all of your "this is how I do it" on everything and know all the options and all the reasons, you won't gain anything from reading it.
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03-09-2020, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
It takes less time to just type it out and then have people read it, then do "cliffs", only to have people respond with "why" or with countpoints that are easily refuted in the first place.Never heard of "cliffs"?
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This is part of why I can't twitter and ****, it's made for half ass lazy ***gots who can't be bothered to explain reasons behind anything (TBF, often it's because they don'thavereasons lol)
But I copied and pasted it to my word doc now so get ready to scroll hehe
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Here are things I do and more importantly why
I download every spare magazine. Usually -1 for pistol and -2 for rifle. I have seen many people, and have myself, done the above mentioned closed-action insertion that seemed good but wasn't. I believe I'm more likely to fubar the reload and not seat the mag all the way...than I am to do a 'tac reload' and then need literally every last round from that mag. I'm perfectly fine "only" having 14 or 16 rounds in my pistol reload or "only" having 28 rounds in my 5.56 reload.
I load pistols completely (aka, +1). There's no legitimate downside at all to this that I have ever been made aware of, so...take the more ammo in the gun without need to bring or execute a reload.
I keep long guns 'cruiser ready', that is, loaded magazine inserted, action closed, safety on, empty chamber. Why? Because I don't keep long guns on me or within arms reach for right now use the way I do with pistols. Long gun is usually in a quick access safe, on the passenger floorboard, in the back seat, in the trunk, etc. If I have time to go grab it, I likely have time to rack it as I am picking it up. I also don't have immediate positive control over it when it's not on my person, as I do for a carried pistol, so I want that extra layer of safety in case any other person gets their hands on it. If and when I carry a long gun in a sling on me, I rack one into the chamber as I sling up. I know manual safeties on a rifle are akin to a holster for a pistol, but I just don't trust a rifle bouncing around in the car etc with a loaded chamber (and I don't have fancy locking mounts for them in my cars or anything). Safeties can get caught on all kinds of stuff, as can triggers, and I want long guns kept the same way at all times for consistency (slung on me or in my hands for use is fully loaded, anywhere else where I have to pick it up to use it, chamber is empty)
I use my support hand thumb to drop the slide release/bolt release on a locked-back reload. It's faster and it's the most consistent across my firearms. I've never had a problem missing the slide release, and this is one that even if you do miss it, at least you know immediately, you don't keep going and only find out when you go to shoot even if that's 30 seconds later or whatever.
If the pistol "auto-forwards" when I slam the magazine in, I manually rack the slide. It's possible to hit it off center and bump it such that the slide comes forward without chambering a round. I've seen people do this and I have done it on the clock during a qualification as well. And you may not know it right away either...
I generally do not choose to or train to retain partial magazines. My 'tactical' reload sequence is: 1) Decide to reload, 2) Retrieve new magazine with support hand and bring it up towards the firearm, 3) at that time drop the old mag free and look down briefly as I immediately insert the new mag to minimize time the firearm has no inserted mag 4) let old mag hit the deck. If I'm behind cover or otherwise not moving I might pick the mag up and shove it in a pocket but probably not. Why? I'm more concerned with getting a new mag in the gun than anything else, and fumbling around with two mags in my hand at the same time to retain the old one is more complicated and increases the chances I fubar it and drop the new mag or just plain take too long, it's more steps it does take longer. The ammo in the spare mag will have to be enough. I choose to be fine "only" having the 14 or 16 or 28 or whatever it is that's in the reload.
What matters is you choose what you do based on an understanding of the pros and cons of the available choices and train consistently
03-09-2020, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Well, I've mis-loaded fully loaded mags on a closed bolt enough times, that I also download spare mags. I probably can overcome it with training, but it's just easier to download. It's weird because just sitting around, I can easily load 30-rd mages on a closed bolt, but on timer when I train, it's difficult. *shrugs*It takes less time to just type it out and then have people read it, then do "cliffs", only to have people respond with "why" or with countpoints that are easily refuted in the first place.
This is part of why I can't twitter and ****, it's made for half ass lazy ***gots who can't be bothered to explain reasons behind anything (TBF, often it's because they don'thavereasons lol)
But I copied and pasted it to my word doc now so get ready to scroll hehe
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What matters is you choose what you do based on an understanding of the pros and cons of the available choices and train consistently
This is part of why I can't twitter and ****, it's made for half ass lazy ***gots who can't be bothered to explain reasons behind anything (TBF, often it's because they don'thavereasons lol)
But I copied and pasted it to my word doc now so get ready to scroll hehe
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What matters is you choose what you do based on an understanding of the pros and cons of the available choices and train consistently
Spare pistol mags, always topped off. I've never misloaded a fully loaded pistol mag on a closed slide.
Closing the bolt on an AR, I use the thumb. It's just faster, and it's how I train. With the thumb, I can have the rifle shouldered, and cheek on the stock. Slamming the bolt-catch with my palm means I have to have the rifle away from my face. It just feels awkward.
I always use slide release on pistol reloads.
Tac-reloads I will do when I know I only have 2 mags left (1 in rifle, 1 in pouch), and I decide to reload. I will retain the partial. If I have more than 2, I will let it drop when on the clock.
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03-09-2020, 04:12 PM
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Large county ('Atlanta') adjacent to us is closing entire school district tomorrow to disinfect everything because a teacher tested positive.
Wife is still supposed to travel by air in less than a week for work and it hasn't been canned yet.
****ing geniuses
Things might start getting sporty-ish the next week. I feel like this will be a looking-back "slowly at first, then all at once" scenario, and if so, we may be approaching the 'all at once' portion of worse before better
Wife is still supposed to travel by air in less than a week for work and it hasn't been canned yet.
****ing geniuses
Things might start getting sporty-ish the next week. I feel like this will be a looking-back "slowly at first, then all at once" scenario, and if so, we may be approaching the 'all at once' portion of worse before better
03-09-2020, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By rahfulz⏩
Forgot I ordered these lol
How many mcdonnems nuggets you guys think you can eat in an hour?
Me and a few buddies tried to hit 100 each yesterday.I only made it to 80. Felt pretty horrible after. wya meatie????
How many mcdonnems nuggets you guys think you can eat in an hour?
Me and a few buddies tried to hit 100 each yesterday.I only made it to 80. Felt pretty horrible after. wya meatie????

Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
Speaking of presscheck/pressburg, tried running a Nofail drill yesterday but the fukin wind was so shiity I had to rely on a 6 inch steel popper at 20 yds. Suffice to say I sucked **** out of a straw so bad, that I got reassigned to picking corn husks out of shiet duty for the rest of my rotation.Presscheck
Also, ordered the wilson combat (WC320) from Wilsan Cambat. Fukers said it was instock then I clicked again and ordered but then said out of stock, didn't get a shipment invoice. they are OOS everyhwere. mother ****ing bitch ****.
100% made from WC, they did not use the same frame that sig uses. SO I wanna see if it'll be better than the XCARRY module or not. looks pretty shekcsy
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03-09-2020, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Speaking of presscheck/pressburg, tried running a Nofail drill yesterday but the fukin wind was so shiity I had to rely on a 6 inch steel popper at 20 yds. Suffice to say I sucked **** out of a straw so bad, that I got reassigned to picking corn husks out of shiet duty for the rest of my rotation.
Also, ordered the wilson combat (WC320) from Wilsan Cambat. Fukers said it was instock then I clicked again and ordered but then said out of stock, didn't get a shipment invoice. they are OOS everyhwere. mother ****ing bitch ****.
100% made from WC, they did not use the same frame that sig uses. SO I wanna see if it'll be better than the XCARRY module or not. looks pretty shekcsy
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Tan still available here (black oos)
Speaking of presscheck/pressburg, tried running a Nofail drill yesterday but the fukin wind was so shiity I had to rely on a 6 inch steel popper at 20 yds. Suffice to say I sucked **** out of a straw so bad, that I got reassigned to picking corn husks out of shiet duty for the rest of my rotation.
Also, ordered the wilson combat (WC320) from Wilsan Cambat. Fukers said it was instock then I clicked again and ordered but then said out of stock, didn't get a shipment invoice. they are OOS everyhwere. mother ****ing bitch ****.
100% made from WC, they did not use the same frame that sig uses. SO I wanna see if it'll be better than the XCARRY module or not. looks pretty shekcsy
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03-09-2020, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Got one of these on my p320 and it's hnnnngggg wish it was a little bigger but whatever. Looks good and grip texture is a little better.Also, ordered the wilson combat (WC320) from Wilsan Cambat. Fukers said it was instock then I clicked again and ordered but then said out of stock, didn't get a shipment invoice. they are OOS everyhwere. mother ****ing bitch ****.
100% made from WC, they did not use the same frame that sig uses. SO I wanna see if it'll be better than the XCARRY module or not. looks pretty shekcsy
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100% made from WC, they did not use the same frame that sig uses. SO I wanna see if it'll be better than the XCARRY module or not. looks pretty shekcsy
Spoiler!

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03-09-2020, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
Im about to pull the trigger on that one you linked but noticed its the thumb safety cut! would it still work?Got one of these on my p320 and it's hnnnngggg wish it was a little bigger but whatever. Looks good and grip texture is a little better.
if it works i'll hang up a picture of TIM KENNEDY on my wall in the bedroom
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03-09-2020, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Someone found out the owner used to be (?) a bit of a criminal, and is still an alcoholic. Meh...he seems like a nice guy, ****in shop is just in shambles.What’s happening with Sons of Liberty? I heard people are going hard on them but for what?
And what’s this AR mag loading drama going on? Heard there’s two people fighting about 29 vs 30 rounds?
And what’s this AR mag loading drama going on? Heard there’s two people fighting about 29 vs 30 rounds?
Always 29 rounds. Pistol mags, I keep them full, even the reloads. I've not really had issues with failures to seat with those. Rifle mags though? Always 29 rounds.
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03-09-2020, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
you get recruited by mesada to do a low pro assignment where you are given a deep concealment pistol for your main gun, and a IWI TAVOR in a hidden Cache strategically located in your area of operations, if things go western.Someone found out the owner used to be (?) a bit of a criminal, and is still an alcoholic. Meh...he seems like a nice guy, ****in shop is just in shambles.
Always 29 rounds. Pistol mags, I keep them full, even the reloads. I've not really had issues with failures to seat with those. Rifle mags though? Always 29 rounds.
Always 29 rounds. Pistol mags, I keep them full, even the reloads. I've not really had issues with failures to seat with those. Rifle mags though? Always 29 rounds.
IN the briefing you are showed a picture of your pistol you are assigned. It is this. how does it make you feel
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03-09-2020, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
If you eliminate initial outbreaks in most countries the cfr is probably around . 8-1.5% It's going to kill some people but not nearly as many as some people are saying. I just want to know why people are stocking up on bottled water. The water infrastructure under attack or something?Italy literally locking down the entire country. They're freaking the fuk out there. ~5% death rate is scary AF.
I guess they don't know what else to do. Locking the whole damn area down in China was basically the only reason why they were able to slow their infection rate over the last couple weeks.
I guess they don't know what else to do. Locking the whole damn area down in China was basically the only reason why they were able to slow their infection rate over the last couple weeks.
The missus and i see **** and laugh although things are about to get a lot more interesting since we now have confirmed cases less than an hour away. Wish me luck lol
03-09-2020, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
I mean, water is extremely important. One day without it is not good, a few days and you're dead. You shouldn't need a specific prediction about water to generally prepare by having potable water. Better late than never?If you eliminate initial outbreaks in most countries the cfr is probably around . 8-1.5% It's going to kill some people but not nearly as many as some people are saying. I just want to know why people are stocking up on bottled water. The water infrastructure under attack or something?
The missus and i see **** and laugh although things are about to get a lot more interesting since we now have confirmed cases less than an hour away. Wish me luck lol
The missus and i see **** and laugh although things are about to get a lot more interesting since we now have confirmed cases less than an hour away. Wish me luck lol
03-09-2020, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
We've got well water a filter and steripens in the event we really need it. I guess I'm out of touch do people not drink tap anymore?I mean, water is extremely important. One day without it is not good, a few days and you're dead. You shouldn't need a specific prediction about water to generally prepare by having potable water. Better late than never?
03-09-2020, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
Water is extremely important. One day without it is not good, a few days and you're dead. You shouldn't need a specific prediction about water to generally prepare by having potable water. Better late than never?We've got well water a filter and steripens in the event we really need it. I guess I'm out of touch do people not drink tap anymore?
Or, to put it another way, being prepared doesn't mean "there will always and forever be potable water coming out of the tap no matter what"
This just shows us how many people don't have any preps at all, not even the federal government recommendations for preps which include drinking water lol
03-09-2020, 06:36 PM
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I was watching the IMI M193 for $290/1k plus shipping on sgammo. Was down to 6 in stock. Then up to 12. Less than an hour later, OOS. Well so much for that
03-09-2020, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
It's a ****ing flu. That's the part you're not understanding. I have water on hand. People are buying **** like it's the end of the world.Water is extremely important. One day without it is not good, a few days and you're dead. You shouldn't need a specific prediction about water to generally prepare by having potable water. Better late than never?
Or, to put it another way, being prepared doesn't mean "there will always and forever be potable water coming out of the tap no matter what"
This just shows us how many people don't have any preps at all, not even the federal government recommendations for preps which include drinking water lol
Or, to put it another way, being prepared doesn't mean "there will always and forever be potable water coming out of the tap no matter what"
This just shows us how many people don't have any preps at all, not even the federal government recommendations for preps which include drinking water lol
03-09-2020, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
I understand perfectly.It's a ****ing flu. That's the part you're not understanding. I have water on hand. People are buying **** like it's the end of the world.
I'm not talking about you, bozz, personally. You also didn't ask about you, bozz, personally.
You said
"I just want to know why people are stocking up on bottled water. "
I'm telling you why. People are realizing they are not prepared for, well, anything at all, and potable water is extremely important, to the point that one single day without is bad, so they want to have some. Most people don't have a well and filters and water on hand, that's why people are buying water.
I'm not buying water right now either. But that doesn't change the reasons that other people are.
03-09-2020, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
Well personally we buy bottled water because without a filter, water out the faucet tastes like chit.If you eliminate initial outbreaks in most countries the cfr is probably around . 8-1.5% It's going to kill some people but not nearly as many as some people are saying. I just want to know why people are stocking up on bottled water. The water infrastructure under attack or something?
The missus and i see **** and laugh although things are about to get a lot more interesting since we now have confirmed cases less than an hour away. Wish me luck lol
The missus and i see **** and laugh although things are about to get a lot more interesting since we now have confirmed cases less than an hour away. Wish me luck lol
Aside from that, I'm just thinking about a purely worst case scenario: what happens if the people who maintain the water plants get sick, etc and can't maintain the plant then there's an extended period where it isn't safe to drink? Might be far fetched but better safe than sorry.
03-09-2020, 07:04 PM
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I live near an ocean. Worst case scenario, I'll boil water using wood from homes of dead Corona virus victims... who I'll cook to an IT of !60 degrees to ensure they're virus free!
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03-09-2020, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
James yeager was saying he drank thousands and thousands of gallons from the Camden TN stream/lake.Well personally we buy bottled water because without a filter, water out the faucet tastes like chit.
Aside from that, I'm just thinking about a purely worst case scenario: what happens if the people who maintain the water plants get sick, etc and can't maintain the plant then there's an extended period where it isn't safe to drink? Might be far fetched but better safe than sorry.
Aside from that, I'm just thinking about a purely worst case scenario: what happens if the people who maintain the water plants get sick, etc and can't maintain the plant then there's an extended period where it isn't safe to drink? Might be far fetched but better safe than sorry.
didnt think freshwater was the safest to drink, but thousand upon thousands of gallons? would rather drink a few days worth of ocean saltwater instead of that
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03-09-2020, 07:13 PM
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Recently finished a DMR build. Can give parts breakdown if anyone interested.

And yes, the handstop and vertical are actually used, I like to put a hand on the vertical and use the pointer for the handstop.
And yes, the handstop and vertical are actually used, I like to put a hand on the vertical and use the pointer for the handstop.
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03-09-2020, 07:28 PM
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I’ve got a well. I’m good on water.
Call me sick but this makes me want a SOLGW rifle more lol.
“Mihalski told officers that booked him that he hoped his mother, “gets killed by the devil himself, then burns in hell as a shishkabob with bell peppers on a stick.”“
Call me sick but this makes me want a SOLGW rifle more lol.
“Mihalski told officers that booked him that he hoped his mother, “gets killed by the devil himself, then burns in hell as a shishkabob with bell peppers on a stick.”“
03-09-2020, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Some people are lucky. I'd still take the coronavirus over drinking unfiltered water and getting Giardia again.James yeager was saying he drank thousands and thousands of gallons from the Camden TN stream/lake.
didnt think freshwater was the safest to drink, but thousand upon thousands of gallons? would rather drink a few days worth of ocean saltwater instead of that
didnt think freshwater was the safest to drink, but thousand upon thousands of gallons? would rather drink a few days worth of ocean saltwater instead of that
03-09-2020, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
I fixed that for youSome people are [retards]
03-09-2020, 07:39 PM
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"Just the flu."
Yeah. One of the strongest economies on the planet knowingly tanked their economy by locking down their country for "just the flu".
Flu has less than a .2% death rate.
COVID-19 is 3-4% and currently around 5% in Italy.
The flu killed about 46,000 people this flu season with about 45 million infected.
If COVID-19 infected 45 million people, it would result in about 1.5-1.8 million deaths.
The two aren't on the same level.
Yeah. One of the strongest economies on the planet knowingly tanked their economy by locking down their country for "just the flu".
Flu has less than a .2% death rate.
COVID-19 is 3-4% and currently around 5% in Italy.
The flu killed about 46,000 people this flu season with about 45 million infected.
If COVID-19 infected 45 million people, it would result in about 1.5-1.8 million deaths.
The two aren't on the same level.
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
What do you think the best comparison example for initial and later CFR is?CFR is always higher in initial outbreaks then it plateaus. I'm not of the belief that this is going to be nearly as bad as some people think
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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩
Not the case with SARS. CFR during outbreak was estimated to be 3.X%. After the dust settled it was closer to 10% IIRC.CFR is always higher in initial outbreaks then it plateaus. I'm not of the belief that this is going to be nearly as bad as some people think
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