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Thread: Srs Question: Why are so many miscers deluded about what women find attractive?

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Originally Posted By DM28⏩
They want 7-10s while being 2-4. Though in some areas if they look, there are loads of mismatched couples as I said the women are several points above whatever they settled for. But usually the guy isn't creepy/weird and usually has such a huge ego he keeps trying and no lack of confidence that is the difference, and no not rich either. I don't buy these excuses it is the mentality that is the problem.
The thing the other side of the misc misunderstands is that one can't become confident. You can peacock and pretend and try all the pick-up artist bullchit in the world and fail miserably, but you can't genuinely become a Ratfish. You aren't going to become self-assured and fun and uninhibited unless you are like 16-18 and are still kind of figuring chit out. If you are 25+, you're locked in for the ride.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
just fkn LMAO @ lookscels

You look like celebrity....unfortunately its Karl Pilkington....

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Every "incel" deserves a 9/10+ supermodel slobbering on their dinks that haven't seen a shower in a week.
This right here.

What every guy complaining in this thread doesn't realize, is that even if they don't consider themselves "attractive enough", they're making themselves even more unattractive to women with their entitled personalities.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
The people who are not attractive enough for women are a lot rarer than the mentalcels. And there are some serious mental gymnastics going on to convince themselves that they somehow justify getting a 5-6/10 type girl, as if the 3/10's aren't even human and don't exist. They will always retort that even 3/10s are only fking Bradley Cooper but it's cope. I see plenty of ugly looksmatched couples from my school history on social media.
That's where you're getting it wrong.
There are more unatractive guys than there are mentalcels.
It doesn't take that much to fukc a girl if she's actually attracted to you.

Moreover, women always overrate themselves and go for guys that are better looking than them.
This is nothing new. Men are always going to be the disposable sex, and women will always be fukcing a small group of men.
Even 3/10 thinks she deserves a 6/10 because she has many 6/10 guys trying to fukc her.
A 3/10 woman feels insulted when a 3/10 approaches her.
Most cases of sexual harassments are the result of unatractive men approaching women.
I don't understand how people have a hard time accepting the Hypergamous nature of women.
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker⏩
That's where you're getting it wrong.
There are more unatractive guys than there are mentalcels.
It doesn't take that much to fukc a girl if she's actually attracted to you.

Moreover, women always overrate themselves and go for guys that are better looking than them.
This is nothing new. Men are always going to be the disposable sex, and women will always be fukcing a small group of men.
Even 3/10 thinks she deserves a 6/10 because she has many 6/10 guys trying to fukc her.
A 3/10 woman feels insulted when a 3/10 approaches her.
Most cases of sexual harassments are the result of unatractive men approaching women.
I don't understand how people have a hard time accepting the Hypergamous nature of women.
So the 3/10 looksmatched couples all over my feeds are rape victims or what?
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
The thing the other side of the misc misunderstands is that one can't become confident. You can peacock and pretend and try all the pick-up artist bullchit in the world and fail miserably, but you can't genuinely become a Ratfish. You aren't going to become self-assured and fun and uninhibited unless you are like 16-18 and are still kind of figuring chit out. If you are 25+, you're locked in for the ride.
Damn. You got the misc on point with your post above about social skills. You are wrong about you can't do anything. You can try cbt and constantly get exposure and with time you can get girls. Why are you so pessimistic, you seem to know what's going on with misc and seems to be the only guy on the thread that understand the misc about the distorted reality but its a choice to fix it and face your insecurity. Liek you said most of us are capable so you gotta slowly increase comfort zone.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
Don't get me wrong, it fking sucks. But I just hate the projection of inferiority onto external agents and society as a whole or something when it's just nature. If you are born subpar or brought up in a subpar way, you get a subpar existence. Own it, feel sorry for yourself if you want, but why externalize it as hatred towards women and all the other expressions like EOD blaming society and liberalism and everything imaginable. Not everyone gets to be a genetic winner. Not everyone gets a good upbringing.
This is cope dude. I'm not going to blame myself when i actually have good genetics (i am far from perfect and i'm introvert i admit) I played sports for 10 years, became aesthetic, i'm smart, have money etc. If you like the current culture of America, that's fine. But don't sit here and act like a lot of people are happy with this chit. Feminism, liberalism, online dating and a lot of other things are fuking younger men now days. We are tired of it. And tired of the propaganda they are pushing on people to cope.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
The thing the other side of the misc misunderstands is that one can't become confident. You can peacock and pretend and try all the pick-up artist bullchit in the world and fail miserably, but you can't genuinely become a Ratfish. You aren't going to become self-assured and fun and uninhibited unless you are like 16-18 and are still kind of figuring chit out. If you are 25+, you're locked in for the ride.
Anyone can change how they feel & think it just requires work. They would have to throw themselves out there and endure the rejection until they can gain confidence. No woman is going to be attracted to no confidence, nervous, weak, scared of their own shadow. Meanwhile below average guy who is confident, acts certain ways & is able to actually talk as well as laugh can actually have a woman gazing past physical appearance. Speaking as a woman they can make you forget you weren't very attracted to them & become attracted to something else. Facts
Originally Posted By nnodcvcker⏩
That's where you're getting it wrong.
There are more unatractive guys than there are mentalcels.
It doesn't take that much to fukc a girl if she's actually attracted to you.

Moreover, women always overrate themselves and go for guys that are better looking than them.
This is nothing new. Men are always going to be the disposable sex, and women will always be fukcing a small group of men.
Even 3/10 thinks she deserves a 6/10 because she has many 6/10 guys trying to fukc her.
A 3/10 woman feels insulted when a 3/10 approaches her.
Lol what? Most women do not have huge egos like a lot of men, most women rate themselves lower. Men will rate themselves higher see eod above.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
So the 3/10 looksmatched couples all over my feeds are rape victims or what?
That's your selection bias.
You don't see the large amount of average guys in shape with below average girls that are out of shape.
You don't see all the other average guys that are single because their looxmatch think they have a chance with their Chad FWB.

The other factor is that your feed could be full of old people where the women just settled for a beta provider for the sake of stability and security after fukcing countless better looking guys when she was in her prime. The thing is that the woman would most likely never give these beta providers a chance when they were in their prime.
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Originally Posted By DM28⏩
Anyone can change how they feel & think it just requires work. They would have to throw themselves out there and endure the rejection until they can gain confidence. No woman is going to be attracted to no confidence, nervous, weak, scared of their own shadow. Meanwhile below average guy who is confident, acts certain ways & is able to actually talk as well as laugh can actually have a woman gazing past physical appearance. Speaking as a woman they can make you forget you weren't very attracted to them & become attracted to something else. Facts



Lol what? Most women do not have huge egos like a lot of men, most women rate themselves lower. Men will rate themselves higher see eod above.
Nope, most men don't even rate themselves because they're naive enough to think that looks don't matter.
Women rate themselves higher in comparison to women.
I think someone already posted the graph here showing that the vast majority of women think that over 80% of men aren't attractive enough for them.

I don't blame them. Most women have so many options.
Plus, women use a lot of deceiving techniques like makeup, hair extensions, and plastic surgeries at much higher rates than men
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Originally Posted By DM28⏩
Anyone can change how they feel & think it just requires work. They would have to throw themselves out there and endure the rejection until they can gain confidence. No woman is going to be attracted to no confidence, nervous, weak, scared of their own shadow. Meanwhile below average guy who is confident, acts certain ways & is able to actually talk as well as laugh can actually have a woman gazing past physical appearance. Speaking as a woman they can make you forget you weren't very attracted to them & become attracted to something else. Facts
Why do you think repeated rejection would make somebody confident? lol

I have no issue with the rest of this, other than to reiterate that personality isstable.It can be observed at very young ages and you can predict a whole fuk ton of outcomes with those observations. It's real, biologically rooted, and not a choice in the conventional sense.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
Why do you think repeated rejection would make somebody confident? lol

I have no issue with the rest of this, other than to reiterate that personality isstable.It can be observed at very young ages and you can predict a whole fuk ton of outcomes with those observations. It's real, biologically rooted, and not a choice in the conventional sense.
Hey brotha, just a head's up. You're arguing with a female. They have to live in an alternate-reality as real-life would send them to the mental-health ward.
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker⏩
Nope, most men don't even rate themselves because they're naive enough to think that looks don't matter.
Women rate themselves higher in comparison to women.
I think someone already posted the graph here showing that the vast majority of women think that over 80% of men aren't attractive enough for them.

I don't blame them. Most women have so many options.
Plus, women use a lot of deceiving techniques like makeup, hair extensions, and plastic surgeries at much higher rates than men
Majority of women aren't doing those things, & not true. Majority of men have you actually looked around America? Rofl there is hardly average left, majority of men are fat, dad bods, can't even dress nicely etc.
Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
Why do you think repeated rejection would make somebody confident? lol
It's not the rejection that will make them confident, they have to endure it to get confident speaking to people rejected or not, you don't gain confidence by ignoring what you fear and no action. They will be rejected to the no confidence, awkward, nervous whatever they just have to accept that but keep doing it as they expose themselves to what they fear & therefore get experience doing what isn't natural to them it becomes natural. Once confident and used to speaking/socializing they will then be confident and have enough experience.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
You can peacock and pretend and try all the pick-up artist bullchit in the world and fail miserably, but you can't genuinely become a Ratfish.
lol that's what ****gy dudes self-aggrandizing that whatever they have is special and that dont want competition say

you absolutely can
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
Why do you think repeated rejection would make somebody confident? lol

I have no issue with the rest of this, other than to reiterate that personality isstable.It can be observed at very young ages and you can predict a whole fuk ton of outcomes with those observations. It's real, biologically rooted, and not a choice in the conventional sense.
How do you fix avoidance personality bro. I gues you are right I don't have a wide social circle so I try to rely on face or whatever.
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Originally Posted By andrepmeet⏩
Hey brotha, just a head's up. You're arguing with a female. They have to live in an alternate-reality as real-life would send them to the mental-health ward.
You're in the alternate reality, thinking sitting crying about women including those giving actual "sound" advice, is going to help. No wonder these guys here give up. Lol
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Originally Posted By mamapipa⏩
How do you fix avoidance personality bro. I gues you are right I don't have a wide social circle so I try to rely on face or whatever.
The professional community best suited to answer that questions says: Try a bunch of exposure therapy and cognitive re-alignment to promote as much functioning as possible, but it's most likely that they will never be fixed. Pleasant people though! Very likable patients compared to many others like narcissists and borderliners etc.
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[QUOTE=propreffered7;1600390581][QUOTE=DizzySmalls post_id=1600388241]You can peacock and pretend and try all the pick-up artist bullchit in the world and fail miserably, but you can't genuinely become a Ratfish./QUOTE]

lol that's what ****gy dudes self-aggrandizing that whatever they have is special and that dont want competition say

you absolutely can[/QUOTE]prof your here!!

Yo the post when dizzy said really hit me, guys with mental issues such as inferiroirty complex or anxiety and start avoiding at an early age and live a different life then regular people which results in us relying on a lot of money or very good looks and complaining how life is unfair aka a lot of misc.

I think it was you who I had a convo a while ago and you suggested cbt. On the other hand the dizzy guys is suggesting its biological and there is nothing you can do.

I think he is right as in looking into my childhood I was insecure about a lot of things I did and avoided groupwork or soccer practice due to feeling inferiror. Or afraid to go to class cause kids would make fun or some bs. I realized I got rid of it through slow exposire but when I am faced with a new task it comes back. Like I feel like I am two steps behind everybody and have to go through a wall each social situation to feel normal. I need to fee superior in order to feel comfortable....

Is my brain fked up.
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Originally Posted By DizzySmalls⏩
The professional community best suited to answer that questions says: Try a bunch of exposure therapy and cognitive re-alignment to promote as much functioning as possible, but it's most likely that they will never be fixed. Pleasant people though! Very likable patients compared to many others like narcissists and borderliners etc.
Who are you and what did you study? How do you know all this. I know it will never go away fully but I feel like if there is a certain acitvity you want to do such as getting girls you can still do it. Its just that when you are faced with a new task your avoidance will come back and you will just have to fight it again. I guess we are just slightly mentally held back just like ahving a low iq just gotta push a bit harder right?
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prof your here!!

Yo the post when dizzy said really hit me, guys with mental issues such as inferiroirty complex or anxiety and start avoiding at an early age and live a different life then regular people which results in us relying on a lot of money or very good looks and complaining how life is unfair aka a lot of misc.

I think it was you who I had a convo a while ago and you suggested cbt. On the other hand the dizzy guys is suggesting its biological and there is nothing you can do.

I think he is right as in looking into my childhood I was insecure about a lot of things I did and avoided groupwork or soccer practice due to feeling inferiror. Or afraid to go to class cause kids would make fun or some bs. I realized I got rid of it through slow exposire but when I am faced with a new task it comes back. Like I feel like I am two steps behind everybody and have to go through a wall each social situation to feel normal. I need to fee superior in order to feel comfortable....

Is my brain fked up.[/QUOTE]do me favor. contact mynameisuntz on here. i haven't seen him in a long time but he was getting his phd in neuroscience or something similar back when i studied it. there were 3 of us that used to have conversations on here

however, his specialty is specifically anxiety

see if you can contact him

im quite positive that psychology has looked for biological markers FOREVER and has never found any
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Originally Posted By DM28⏩
Majority of women aren't doing those things, & not true. Majority of men have you actually looked around America? Rofl there is hardly average left, majority of men are fat, dad bods, can't even dress nicely etc.



It's not the rejection that will make them confident, they have to endure it to get confident speaking to people rejected or not, you don't gain confidence by ignoring what you fear and no action. They will be rejected to the no confidence, awkward, nervous whatever they just have to accept that but keep doing it as they expose themselves to what they fear & therefore get experience doing what isn't natural to them it becomes natural. Once confident and used to speaking/socializing they will then be confident and have enough experience.
I can't really have a good discussion with you because you're intellectually dishonest and lazy.
The majority of women wear make up every time they go out.
Of course, the majority of women aren't getting surgery, and that's not what I said. I said there are more women getting surgery than there are men doing the same.
Plastic surgery is actually getting pervasive in today's IG culture. Hundreds of women are getting Brazilian butt lifts per day.


And for the last time, confidence is not really the thing that attracts women. Women are attracted to good looking guy, and these good looking guys just happen to be confident because of all the positive reinforcements they received throughout their entire life because of their good looks. It baffles me that people can't still understand the the difference between correlation and causation.
Women are fatter than men, and that's a fact. You're just being ridiculous. Now.
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do me favor. contact mynameisuntz on here. i haven't seen him in a long time but he was getting his phd in neuroscience or something similar back when i studied it. there were 3 of us that used to have conversations on here

however, his specialty is specifically anxiety

see if you can contact him

im quite positive that psychology has looked for biological markers FOREVER and has never found any[/QUOTE]damn, its like the only three smart guys on misc. Is there like a psychology forum like he misc where only smart people exist? Misc kinda get annoying with guys below iq 80 saying go try harder ****.
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damn, its like the only three smart guys on misc. Is there like a psychology forum like he misc where only smart people exist? Misc kinda get annoying with guys below iq 80 saying go try harder ****.[/QUOTE]go ahead and search his threads as well. i know hes made a few

here's one:

[URL=https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=153042701&page=1]https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...3042701&page=1[/URL]
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go ahead and search his threads as well. i know hes made a few

here's one:

[URL=https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=153042701&page=1]https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...3042701&page=1[/URL][/QUOTE]
He hasn't posted in 6 months..... But thanks I will read through his history and gain some info.
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He hasn't posted in 6 months..... But thanks I will read through his history and gain some info.[/QUOTE]nope. but he might lurk

btw, he has quite a few threads. i think theres one specifically on anxiety
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Originally Posted By DM28⏩
.... including those giving actual "sound" advice, is going to help
Mmmkay missy....like I said women are the ultimate masters of COPE. #thefutureisfemale

LOL at women saying they "don't have a specific type as long as we get along" and like guys who are "confident in themselves!".....then checking her Tinder matches, revealing none of the guys she chose is under 6 feet tall.

You remind of an interview I saw of Leo DiCaprio's years ago....the interviewer asked him what he finds attractive in a woman. Y'know what that fuk had the nerve to say? "A good sense of humour"....he actually said that...google it if you can. I almost fell out of my chair.

Ummmm...in reality the stats are women under 25, white, supermodel or at least up & coming model, skinny obvs., etc.

In all fairness, Leo is as close to how a conventionally-attractive woman is treated with positive-feedback so I can't really blame him for his delusion.

"Humour"....JUST LOL!



Originally Posted By nnodcvcker⏩
And for the last time, confidence is not really the thing that attracts women.
Some comedian said women aren't interested in men who are running the race, they are interested in the men crossing the finish-line.

I LOL'd cuz true.
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wait, mamapipa, here's the anxiety thread

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...6346811&page=1
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[QUOTE=mamapipa;1600391461][QUOTE=propreffered7 post_id=1600391331]
damn, its like the only three smart guys on misc. Is there like a psychology forum like he misc where only smart people exist? Misc kinda get annoying with guys below iq 80 saying go try harder ****.[/QUOTE]Follow me bro. Honestly I’m pretty high IQ but I still try to maintain a positive mindset here. That’s a dichotomy you won’t find at all. Too many low IQ and delusional miscers nowadays tbh
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Originally Posted By mamapipa⏩
Who are you and what did you study? How do you know all this. I know it will never go away fully but I feel like if there is a certain acitvity you want to do such as getting girls you can still do it. Its just that when you are faced with a new task your avoidance will come back and you will just have to fight it again. I guess we are just slightly mentally held back just like ahving a low iq just gotta push a bit harder right?
I am the self-hater par excellence brah! I have to admit that a very curmudgeonly teacher I had in high school for AP Psychology probably helped to shape a lot of my pessimistic views on these topics, but he was a very smart guy and generally had the evidence/consensus behind what he was saying. I took a psych minor at university and aced all of the classes and have read quite a bit on the topic, but am certainly not speaking from a position of authority. Feel free to take a look at what is out there online or what has worked best for others, but it's a pretty grim outlook.

No matter what I do, there is just something in the way from ever turning that corner to self-acceptance. I will simply never be enough or feel comfortable or worthy of relationships. Likewise I will continue to lack the ability to emotionally tolerate rejection despite comprehending that it really isn't all that bad of an outcome. I will almost always follow the same pattern of self-rejection/avoidance instead, as it has been since adolescence.
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