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Originally Posted By MesoPeaks⏩
Every virus targets all people...We all know this virus is insanely crazy that it targets pretty much all people: fat , healthy , thin etc.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
And we're primarily only testing the sickest people. I still think when the dust settles we'll see fatality rates around 1% for the population as a whole.
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Boom shakalakathats only confirmed cases, it's more likely there's 10x more people that are infected but it's so mild they dont bother getting tested.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Well I can clearly see why you were unbannedNote the shape of the curve. The worst is yet to come, retards.
I don’t want a large farva, I want a goddamn liter of cola
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03-23-2020, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra⏩
Wow, they teach marth well in Norway. Pathetic.As of now we have 115,669 registered closed cases.
Cases which had an outcome of recovered/discharged:
100,354 (87%)
Cases which had an outcome of death:
15,315 (13%)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Dont let anyone fool you. This is a serious virus. Take care of your loved ones brahs
Cases which had an outcome of recovered/discharged:
100,354 (87%)
Cases which had an outcome of death:
15,315 (13%)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Dont let anyone fool you. This is a serious virus. Take care of your loved ones brahs
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Originally Posted By Fuqdatass⏩
Do you mean his riveting commentary or his predilection to insult everyone?Well I can clearly see why you were unbanned
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Originally Posted By aleeboy⏩
Young people with not existing preconditions have and will be hit hard by this virus. My main concern is not for myself, but for people i care aboutBack in my day, no once cared until things tipped over 50:50.
Lol at how scared little boys and normal girls are these days.
Lol at how scared little boys and normal girls are these days.
03-23-2020, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra⏩
No they haven't. Stop reading articles that are nothing but anecdotes. Media are finding the exceptions.Young people with not existing preconditions have and will be hit hard by this virus. My main concern is not for myself, but for people i care about
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Cases where the person contracted the virus, and either didn't even notice or got sick for a few days: utterly untested
Funny how these cases are used in the denominator for mortality on the flu and common cold, but not for COVID-19
Funny how these cases are used in the denominator for mortality on the flu and common cold, but not for COVID-19
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Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra⏩
I know you are scared, young man.Young people with not existing preconditions have and will be hit hard by this virus. My main concern is not for myself, but for people i care about
Fear will overcome you and your soul. You best grow up. I have seen nothing from 95% of people that suggest they care about anyone but themselves. This is the first time I've said this on the misc in these times, but you are full of **** man. You will be judged come the day for your cowardice and lies. Please grow up. I can feel your weakness vibes
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03-23-2020, 08:08 AM
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So OP didn't specify closed cases. Whatever.
On another forum a couple of math types modeling the virus seem to have both decided that tracking deaths is the only "good" number we have right now due to the lack of testing.
I don't think the final rate will be 13% either, just saying it may be years before we have a real grasp on the number of total infections, if ever.
Same guys (and a few others) are saying R0 is about 4.
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On another forum a couple of math types modeling the virus seem to have both decided that tracking deaths is the only "good" number we have right now due to the lack of testing.
I don't think the final rate will be 13% either, just saying it may be years before we have a real grasp on the number of total infections, if ever.
Same guys (and a few others) are saying R0 is about 4.
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
From a monster thread on another forum. There was a scarier chart posted and quoted multiple times that now I don't see.Note the shape of the curve. The worst is yet to come, retards.
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Originally Posted By MesoPeaks⏩
From Italian data most common underlying health condition among the deceased was high blood pressure at 75%.We all know this virus is insanely crazy that it targets pretty much all people: fat , healthy , thin etc.
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03-23-2020, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra⏩
Veracity completely unknown, but here you go:Young people with not existing preconditions have and will be hit hard by this virus. My main concern is not for myself, but for people i care about
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"...I am an Anesthesiologist resident (in Italy we have Anesthesiology and Intensive Care Unit Residency Program in 5 years, I am attending the third year). Actually, I do really spend most of my time in ER and "critical care units" that are the hospital wards we converted in "covid wards" to better treat this patients. I am writing from Milan, which is, actually, the most affected city in Italy. To be honest, situation is dramatic. We had to create 4 new intensive care units to treat intubated patients, all patients in "critical care units" are on Cpap from 8 to 12 hours a day and their p/f is never more than 120. Our biggest trouble is that we are now noticing that even 40 or less yrs old men are developing very bad pneumonia. Best satisfactions come from prone positioning cpap, prone positioning mechanical ventilation (even 18 hrs a day) and mechanical ventilation itself.
My personal impression is that mechanical ventilation is essential in this kind of patient. Most of the time, typical patients arrives in ER with mild dyspnoea, cough and fever (even 39°C or more). Even if spo2 is 90% you can easily find PaO2 of 50 or less and end stage compensation is near so they can easily need rapid intubation or they'll die in acute respiratory distress
These are very interesting questions. Until now we were testing all patients who arrived in Emergency department with respiratory failure. First problem is that this patients have no symptoms until they become really sick. Now we are in a very difficult situation. 80-85% of critical patients are men, over 30 yrs old, no linkage to smoke/vaping or other comorbidities. Now we have a lot of troubles in taking care of new cases. Our "911 service" cannot take care of all respiratory patients, they are dying in their house with no care. Our triage rules are to treat in icu only "young" people (less than 60 yrs old) with 'light' comorbidities. Active cancer patients are the most challenging choices to do. I believe 3-6% of mortality can be real. One one hand you have to consider that a lot of asymptomatic/paucisymptomatic patients are not tested for Sars-cov swab,so mortality could be less than 3-6%. On the other hand, a lot of mild flu/pneumonia in elderly patients are not tested "after death" so there are a lot of ignored covid patients. Maybe they would have died even for a common bacterial pneumonia, we cannot know. Other problem, all the intubated patient don't improve "fastly". ICUs are full of ventilated 40yrs old patients and they don't improve... If you want I can't try to translate our covid "vademecum" to better explain the situation... When you'll be in Italy, obviously, let me know!
I don't know what is the difference, maybe it is a mutated strain. Today we have had 600 death in respiratory failure CoViD patients. Italy is in quarantine, everyone must to stay at home, no-one can move from home except to buy food and social fundamental works as hospitals and food markets. Anyway, here healthcare workers don't take any prophylactic medication, but -in my little experience- people taking ACE inhibitors and ARBs have worse outcome. In our hospital we have obtained your Giapreza (angiotensin II) to give to our patients and it seems that giapreza improves outcome and vital signs (just 50 cases anyway). Our therapeutic plan for patients includes chloroquine, tocilizumab, antiretrovirals, anakinra and no steroids at all. Please, be safe. When we have to stay nearby a CoViD patient we always wear a single-use cap, a single-use coat, shoe-covers, double gloves and goggles or face shield with a N100 mask. Despite all these, my first anesthesiologist tutor is now intubated and mechanically ventilated in ICU (36 years old female). BE SAFE, you and your family, paucisymptomatic people are everywhere. Avoid crowded places, wash frequently hands, neck and face. We thought it would be "nothing more than common flu" and now all italian ICUs are full of CoViD patients...Please, feel free to ask for anything.
My personal impression is that mechanical ventilation is essential in this kind of patient. Most of the time, typical patients arrives in ER with mild dyspnoea, cough and fever (even 39°C or more). Even if spo2 is 90% you can easily find PaO2 of 50 or less and end stage compensation is near so they can easily need rapid intubation or they'll die in acute respiratory distress
These are very interesting questions. Until now we were testing all patients who arrived in Emergency department with respiratory failure. First problem is that this patients have no symptoms until they become really sick. Now we are in a very difficult situation. 80-85% of critical patients are men, over 30 yrs old, no linkage to smoke/vaping or other comorbidities. Now we have a lot of troubles in taking care of new cases. Our "911 service" cannot take care of all respiratory patients, they are dying in their house with no care. Our triage rules are to treat in icu only "young" people (less than 60 yrs old) with 'light' comorbidities. Active cancer patients are the most challenging choices to do. I believe 3-6% of mortality can be real. One one hand you have to consider that a lot of asymptomatic/paucisymptomatic patients are not tested for Sars-cov swab,so mortality could be less than 3-6%. On the other hand, a lot of mild flu/pneumonia in elderly patients are not tested "after death" so there are a lot of ignored covid patients. Maybe they would have died even for a common bacterial pneumonia, we cannot know. Other problem, all the intubated patient don't improve "fastly". ICUs are full of ventilated 40yrs old patients and they don't improve... If you want I can't try to translate our covid "vademecum" to better explain the situation... When you'll be in Italy, obviously, let me know!
I don't know what is the difference, maybe it is a mutated strain. Today we have had 600 death in respiratory failure CoViD patients. Italy is in quarantine, everyone must to stay at home, no-one can move from home except to buy food and social fundamental works as hospitals and food markets. Anyway, here healthcare workers don't take any prophylactic medication, but -in my little experience- people taking ACE inhibitors and ARBs have worse outcome. In our hospital we have obtained your Giapreza (angiotensin II) to give to our patients and it seems that giapreza improves outcome and vital signs (just 50 cases anyway). Our therapeutic plan for patients includes chloroquine, tocilizumab, antiretrovirals, anakinra and no steroids at all. Please, be safe. When we have to stay nearby a CoViD patient we always wear a single-use cap, a single-use coat, shoe-covers, double gloves and goggles or face shield with a N100 mask. Despite all these, my first anesthesiologist tutor is now intubated and mechanically ventilated in ICU (36 years old female). BE SAFE, you and your family, paucisymptomatic people are everywhere. Avoid crowded places, wash frequently hands, neck and face. We thought it would be "nothing more than common flu" and now all italian ICUs are full of CoViD patients...Please, feel free to ask for anything.
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Originally Posted By MesoPeaks⏩
H1N1 had a billion with 500k+ deaths.Saw a youtube video earlier and it's now 320,000+ confirmed cases across the globe.
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Bias
We need to account for all people who are infected vs the death toll.
We also need to factor in pre existing health conditions and, somehow, the percentage of people who showed no symptoms.
Either way though, stay safe *******s. There no clear way of knowing whether or not you will be one of the people who gets hit hard by this virus
We need to account for all people who are infected vs the death toll.
We also need to factor in pre existing health conditions and, somehow, the percentage of people who showed no symptoms.
Either way though, stay safe *******s. There no clear way of knowing whether or not you will be one of the people who gets hit hard by this virus
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Originally Posted By ScottTil⏩
thismisrepresenting the stats in the title
13 % of closed cases, not of all cases
13 % of closed cases, not of all cases
03-23-2020, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra⏩
Why with the misleading fearing tactics?As of now we have 115,669 registered closed cases.
Cases which had an outcome of recovered/discharged:
100,354 (87%)
Cases which had an outcome of death:
15,315 (13%)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Dont let anyone fool you. This is a serious virus. Take care of your loved ones brahs
Cases which had an outcome of recovered/discharged:
100,354 (87%)
Cases which had an outcome of death:
15,315 (13%)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Dont let anyone fool you. This is a serious virus. Take care of your loved ones brahs
15k global deaths from those infected but what's the world's population? What's the demographic of those infected who died? Another person who likes to just show a total without delving into the details. Here's some math 13% of 90% are not going to die. The global death rate was 0.05%, so that's gone up a bit more with 5k new deaths. 2.5k of the new deaths where from Italy.
1/3 of those 15k are from ITALY. Only a few countries are continuing to be the bulk of deaths statistics because they have a huge 65+ age population while they waited to late to lock things down. The other countries deaths are from those already suffering from conditions such as obesity and diabetes.
How about you post the reality and not the doomsday version?
Every day new countries go on the list for a smoother curve and control, including Germany, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Australia - a whole continent only has 7 deaths. Places like New Zealand:Zerodeaths.
People like you are what's causing more panic. This virus is LOW VIRULENCE, there are ALREADY CURES that have been tested and proven with combinations of established antibiotics and vaccines. It just has to go through all the bureaucracy before getting approved.
15k deaths in 3-4 months is NOTHING in comparison to what we've had in the past. What's your whole fuking point here? Make things worse so your day feels good? The majority of the world is sitting in the 8k and under bracket and most of those are either elderly or have serious pre-existing conditions.
I get a feeling you want this to be bad, you want this to be worse, because why throw up a title that is a half truth and doesn't properly explain the scenario we are in?
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩
huge iq move there brah, using a smaller sample size to prove your pointLmao no it isnt
The true death rate is less than 1%.
In Ohio we have 400+ cases. 3 deaths, median age of dead is 85
Majority of deaths come from people both elderly and with a pre-existing condition
If you’re scared of this disease itself you’re a grade a Poosay
Should be more scared of the economy
The true death rate is less than 1%.
In Ohio we have 400+ cases. 3 deaths, median age of dead is 85
Majority of deaths come from people both elderly and with a pre-existing condition
If you’re scared of this disease itself you’re a grade a Poosay
Should be more scared of the economy
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Originally Posted By MotorCityCobra⏩
More like they don’t even realize they have the virus because it’s so weak lmaoYoung people with not existing preconditions have and will be hit hard by this virus. My main concern is not for myself, but for people i care about
Can’t imagine the mindset of someone legitimately scared of this thing
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Originally Posted By nestbrother⏩
If you knew anything about statistics you’d know a sample size of 400 is just as representative as one of 400,000huge iq move there brah, using a smaller sample size to prove your point
Lol dumbass do you even math?
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exponential growth is sadly the most criminally underregarded notion in history in spite of its extraordinary importance to lifeSo OP didn't specify closed cases. Whatever.
On another forum a couple of math types modeling the virus seem to have both decided that tracking deaths is the only "good" number we have right now due to the lack of testing.
I don't think the final rate will be 13% either, just saying it may be years before we have a real grasp on the number of total infections, if ever.
Same guys (and a few others) are saying R0 is about 4.
From a monster thread on another forum. There was a scarier chart posted and quoted multiple times that now I don't see.
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From Italian data most common underlying health condition among the deceased was high blood pressure at 75%.
On another forum a couple of math types modeling the virus seem to have both decided that tracking deaths is the only "good" number we have right now due to the lack of testing.
I don't think the final rate will be 13% either, just saying it may be years before we have a real grasp on the number of total infections, if ever.
Same guys (and a few others) are saying R0 is about 4.
From a monster thread on another forum. There was a scarier chart posted and quoted multiple times that now I don't see.
Spoiler!


From Italian data most common underlying health condition among the deceased was high blood pressure at 75%.
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩
The bigger the sample size, the more reliable the results.If you knew anything about statistics you’d know a sample size of 400 is just as representative as one of 400,000
Lol dumbass do you even math?
Lol dumbass do you even math?
I know of 2 people that tested positive for coronavirus, neither died. Therefore the death rate is 0%.
Understand, yank?
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Originally Posted By nestbrother⏩
Yea, there is a difference between a sample of 2 and 20, and then 20 and 200, but once it reaches over 250 or so it doesnt matter. A sample of voters in the U.S. that is 1,000 people or 100,000 people are virtually the exact same in terms of reliability.The bigger the sample size, the more reliable the results.
I know of 2 people that tested positive for coronavirus, neither died. Therefore the death rate is 0%.
Understand, yank?
I know of 2 people that tested positive for coronavirus, neither died. Therefore the death rate is 0%.
Understand, yank?
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩
Why have you picked 250?Yea, there is a difference between a sample of 2 and 20, and then 20 and 200, but once it reaches over 250 or so it doesnt matter. A sample of voters in the U.S. that is 1,000 people or 100,000 people are virtually the exact same in terms of reliability.
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Only because of Italy's old useless people where I'm from its less than 2%.
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People who are going to die tend to die fairly quickly, there are tonnes of people who are going to recover who just haven't passed the 14 days and 2 negative tests required to be certified recovered.
Also people with more severe symptoms are more liekly to inquire about testing and visit a hospital. There are countless people who have the sniffles who aren't bothering.
Also people with more severe symptoms are more liekly to inquire about testing and visit a hospital. There are countless people who have the sniffles who aren't bothering.
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nothing to be scared of lmao.
brb going around licking everything, sneezing and coughing openly
brb going around licking everything, sneezing and coughing openly
go no contact NOW
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Germany: 27k infected, 115 deaths
These numbers are bullchit, Italy are not testing properly. No fuking way the death rate is that high there while Germany's rate is at 0.6%
If you test more people guarantee the numbers of real infected are 10x, which also explains how it's spreading like wildfire
These numbers are bullchit, Italy are not testing properly. No fuking way the death rate is that high there while Germany's rate is at 0.6%
If you test more people guarantee the numbers of real infected are 10x, which also explains how it's spreading like wildfire
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
This. The number of people who have or had it but weren't tested and counted must be off the charts. You also have to consider the death rates between developed and less developed countries.And we're primarily only testing the sickest people. I still think when the dust settles we'll see fatality rates around 1% for the population as a whole.
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