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» My aunt is dead. My uncle will likely die soon. #ItsJustAFlu bro.
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post 1601663961 04-04-2020, 09:43 PM
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Ζωή σε σας.

May your aunt’s memory be eternal! Prayers for your uncle.
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Originally Posted By NicholasMango
This isn't about attention whoring. It seems that this wont be real to people until it effects them, or someone they know personally. I'm hoping that my experience can make it real for some miscers, so they don't have to have their own experience.
100% buddy. I lost my good friend when we were 18, was hard seeing someone young in a casket. Another one when i was 21 n i was texting her the night she got in a accident. Her mom wanted to do her hair for the funeral- it haunts me sometimes when i try to sleep

Those are tragedies that I genuinely, truly, still think about 10 years later.

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Originally Posted By NicholasMango
I'm hoping that my experience can make it real for some miscers, so they don't have to have their own experience.
Sorry to hear that my bruh. I know what it's like to have someone close to you die. And she died from lung cancer as well. During her last months of life, she was kept completely safe from everything - stayed quarantined, barely allowed to touch anything that had direct contact with the outside world (due to weakened immunity from chemo), and only ate healthy, high antioxidant foods that had no taste or flavor, and not allowed to do any outside activities imposed by close family members. Yet she ended up passing unexpectedly due to that weakened immunity.

Unfortunately this is life. We live, we thrive, we face challenges, we overcome, and if we can't go on, we die. No one lives forever, and in her last days I really wanted to share with this loved one of mine how to truly learn to live and enjoy life. I can only imagine the feeling of being trapped right before your very last days.

But when it's time, it's time, and we will all meet the same fate one day.

My condolences brah. Just remember that none of us live forever. Either we stay safe and sheltered from everything or we experience it to the fullest. It's a road we all choose.
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You know with a normal group of people, there'd just be posts along the lines of 'sorry for your loss bro' but here we are with a bunch of edgelord *******s chiming in about the triviality of other peoples' tragedies and posting their tin-foil hat garbage.

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Originally Posted By Mr
You know with a normal group of people, there'd just be posts along the lines of 'sorry for your loss bro' but here we are with a bunch of edgelord *******s chiming in about the triviality of other peoples' tragedies and posting their tin-foil hat garbage.

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It is just a flu and I will go further that it has less strength than the regular flu. And it kills less than the regular flu at a lower rate if calculated honestly and objectivity.

So many people ESPECIALLY in the modern world are sick. Poor diet, pesticides in all food, low vitamin D, mental stress, obesity and poor lifestyle overall. It is no surprising that just like every other year the vulnerable die from the flu, just like last year and the years before.

At which point will we and the medical industry talk about how to strengthen and support our immune system and what has caused the world to have such weak immunity.

I ain’t worried and never was worried, proudly the it’s just a flu bro gang
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Imagine being ignorant and insensitive in a post like this ? Must be pathetic losers irl

Leave it to the conspiracy theorists to come in and be insensitive simply because it goes against their schizophrenic narrative

What pathetic lives these people live honestly




Sorry for your loss op that’s terrible to hear
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post 1601665531 04-04-2020, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
1000 people who would have died at their next infection.



Bump this thread in a year from now.


Changes to total US annual deaths will be marginal.


Most of the general population doesnt understand math.
My projection was off, 1,346 is the current standing for deaths today.
That's only 295 less than the amount of people who died from cancer today.
That's an increase of 160 from yesterday and 271 from the day before.

Again, while you say that most of the population doesn't understand math, your posts displays a fundamental lack of understanding of the power of exponential growth.

At a current growth rate of 1.12, daily deaths will continue to increase throughout this entire month and COVID-19 will quickly surpass daily cancer and heart disease deaths.
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Originally Posted By deriktheman
People die op. Unhealthy people die faster. Every person that has ever existed has died.

Lets crash the entire economy and send the US into a great depression because .0000001234% of people died. Millions upon millions out of work. All small businesses closing for good.
Actually if everyone was responsible and practiced proper hygiene/social distancing then this wouldn’t be necessary but of course the world is full of *******s like you so there was no choice really and the rest of us have to suffer.

Thanks dumbass
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Originally Posted By kusok
So, what happened is sadly two elderly lung cancer and diabetes people died? It’s kinda to be expected, no? Regular flu would get them next time, or something else would, as sad as that is.

OP, I’m VERY sorry for your loss, but this is not an excuse to f*ck up MY life. I need to work so I can pay rent and buy food for my family, and I’m not Hannibal Lecter or a dog, so no mask for me, thanks. Reopen the country!

Isolate the vulnerable and sick, but let the ret of us get back to normal life.
Except that's not how this works.
Ignoring the fact how it would be nearly impossible to just isolate the "vulnerable", if you think the remaining 240,000,000 Americans who would be at risk for catching and spreading COVID-19 wouldn't lead to an overwhelmed healthcare system, then you need to do some more research. Even initial data from China showed that COVID-19 was 6-16x more deadly than the seasonal flu for individuals between the ages of 20 and 49.

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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
Bro if you're scared of catching viruses or germs, you should just stay inside, socially distance yourself even after this is over, and wear a mask. Can't stop other people from being one with nature brah.. I see asian people wear masks on normal days even before corona.
I’m personally not scared of contracting it but I am also not a self centred fkwit so I will do my part to stop the spread

My father in law is dying from this. 56 years old, living a normal life with managed diabetes. He had many many years left. He video calls us everyday to see his grandkid, he’s been in a coma the last few days.

I truly hate people that treat this as a joke or CT. Absolute scum
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Originally Posted By Skinnyfloyd1
Stop being so emotional and telling another human to self-prison himself in this beautiful earth. Address his point, the sick and elderly are mainly dying from this illness. Why should the masses suffer for the few?

And people never ask as well, why do so many people have cancer, diabetes and heart disease in the first place. Maybe if we addressed these issues decades ago; many people wouldn’t be dying from the regular flu and the weaker crona flu.

This is dangerous waters,
Because if we don't flatten the curve, the healthcare system will be overrun? If we didn't quarantine, MILLIONS would die. MILLIONS. Do you understand that? Remember 9/11? THAT WAS 3000 FUKING PEOPLE. We're talking about millions here. Just stay in and chill. Play some games. Netflix. You'll get through it. SRS.

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Originally Posted By NicholasMango
Both have/had commodities. She had lung cancer and was likely going to die soon, but given our family history my uncle (diabetic) probably had ~15 years left.

The hospitals are full and will not take him so he is at home sick and delirious and we don't have much hope for him pulling through.


Tell me more about how hes old so it doesn't matter. Stay home you fuking ****s.




As an update: My uncle is now in an ICU on a ventilator. He also apparently has not eaten in 3 days because of this.
Barring a miracle he's going to die. His daughter is never going to be able to talk to him ever again. When the number of deaths goes up in Michigan tomorrow my aunt is going to be one of those numbers.
Sometime in the next week or so my uncle is going to be one of them.


Take a look at those numbers again and keep in mind that every single one of those deaths is someones father/mother/uncle/aunt/brother/sister. Many of them would've lived many many more years. Their lives matter.
They are just another boomer. They are human beings are their lives have meaning. They aren't all old people either. Young people have died as well. Young people with perfectly manageable conditions who had their entire lives ahead of them are dead and sitting in a freezer truck as I type this. This is real.
I feel really bad for you bro, it really sucks that this is happening to your uncle. However whether all of us stayed away from eachother or just he stayed away from everyone would have had the same effect.
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Originally Posted By kusok
So, what happened is sadly two elderly lung cancer and diabetes people died? It’s kinda to be expected, no? Regular flu would get them next time, or something else would, as sad as that is.

OP, I’m VERY sorry for your loss, but this is not an excuse to f*ck up MY life. I need to work so I can pay rent and buy food for my family, and I’m not Hannibal Lecter or a dog, so no mask for me, thanks. Reopen the country!

Isolate the vulnerable and sick, but let the ret of us get back to normal life.
I’m a boomer and I approve this message


Also, sorry for your loss OP
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Originally Posted By Skinnyfloyd1
Elderly 70+ and those with underlying health issue NEED to stay indoor while the rest of the healthy and working population need to get on with their life.
Oh, people need to stop saying So and So didn’t have an underlying health issue at the time of their death. Many people actually DO have underlying health issue but just never realize it. It is like those who have heart disease, they don’t know they have heart disease until they die.
”People with underlying health issues need to stay inside but also most people don’t know they have an underlying health issue”

you are a dumbass
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Originally Posted By Skinnyfloyd1
This flattening the curve and the curve itself is a projection and an estimation. It isn’t the gospel fact. The health establishment is giving out guesses and cannot assure anyone what will occur in the future. Maybe we have already reached peak cases and the “curve” will flatten itself naturally without this nonsensical lockdown.

You cannot say FOR A FACT that if we didn’t quarantine millions would have died. Maybe if we didn’t quarantine the same amount of people would have died, the usual cases being those with being elderly and having an underlying health issue.

Sweden hasn’t gone into lockdown mode, yet where are the hundreds of thousands dying?

Instead of attacking a virus or creating some vaccines which hasn’t gone years of research, why don’t we try to find out why so many people are ill with underlying health issue, why so many people have cancer, heart disease, respiratory issues(Glyphosate and other pesticide are the answer), diabetes and so on. Viruses are part and parcel of life, instead of running away why don’t we learn to strengthen the human body and understand why the world is so sick. This panic mode is helping no one.

Elderly 70+ and those with underlying health issue NEED to stay indoor while the rest of the healthy and working population need to get on with their life.
Oh, people need to stop saying So and So didn’t have an underlying health issue at the time of their death. Many people actually DO have underlying health issue but just never realize it. It is like those who have heart disease, they don’t know they have heart disease until they die.

Don't tell me what to do,
Dude that is how viruses work. If we don't substantially reduce the growth factor, tons of people are gonna die. Even WITH shelter in place and freezing our economy dramatically, we are still seeing exponential growth. LET THAT SINK IN.

"Part and parcel"?! Are you that mayor from the UK now? SRS? Economists have crunched the numbers. The CDC didn't give this recommendation in a half assed way. They are doing this because it is the only logical course of action. There is a reason Russia, India, and China responded the exact same way. Don't you think they care about their economies too? Come on, man. These countries couldn't give two chits about human rights and they still went and shut down. It's the best answer. People are resorting to the best option when stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's that simple. It's the chit sandwich you have to swallow.
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Originally Posted By mordorr
Dude that is how viruses work. If we don't substantially reduce the growth factor, tons of people are gonna die. Even WITH shelter in place and freezing our economy dramatically, we are still seeing exponential growth. LET THAT SINK IN.

"Part and parcel"?! Are you that mayor from the UK now? SRS? Economists have crunched the numbers. The CDC didn't give this recommendation in a half assed way. They are doing this because it is the only logical course of action. There is a reason Russia, India, and China responded the exact same way. Don't you think they care about their economies too? Come on, man. These countries couldn't give two chits about human rights and they still went and shut down. It's the best answer. People are resorting to the best option when stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's that simple. It's the chit sandwich you have to swallow.


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Originally Posted By ss367
”People with underlying health issues need to stay inside but also most people don’t know they have an underlying health issue”

you are a dumbass
You are a gigantic conman and a word twister. Your corrupt nature, poor grammatical understanding and poor reasoning faculties won’t be tolerated here nor allowed to thrive here. You want to word play but about to receive an enormous fair call coward.

First you quoted something I never wrote, so that alone nullifies your feeble attempt at an argument.

I wanted to address this notion of people dying WITHOUT them having underlying health issue in regards to crona. I addressed that point by using heart disease as a fair honest and reasonable comparison. Many people die suddenly by heart disease, so it’s an underlying health issue that they didn’t know about. So when someone dies from corona, and their family or medical establishment say they didn’t have an underlying health issues doesn’t mean they DIDN’T have a underlying health issue. They could have an underlying health issue but it didn’t present itself until the said individual’s untimely death. Unless they doing an autopsy on EVERY single death person from cronoa to rule out other causes of them, then this statement of X didn’t have an underlying health issue isn’t truth.

Many people you see today DO have underlying health issues it JUST that they don’t know.

But this all boils down to human health, why is modern man so sick and plagued by so many illness at a rate NEVER seen before with all this “advancement”
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk


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They are paying everyone and providing food and aid.
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Originally Posted By mordorr
They are paying everyone and providing food and aid.
$1200 might be cool when I was 21, but I have way more bills than that. Not to mention all of these injections will just hyperinflate the mighty (lol) dollar

And tell that to the people trying to get ahold of unemployment offices right now.
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Let's be real about all of this:

Whether or not you agree with the directives; you're fukkin' in it now. If the economy hits the chitter, that sucks. It will suck for a lot of people. Myself included. Of course, I would prefer not to progress toward economic depression.

But again, this was a measured decision. I doubt that the possibility of economic collapse was not considered.

And again: if you want somebody to mad at, it's the administration that has allowed for this to either (a) progress to this level due to inability to prepare properly or (b) has decided to make a poor decision to combat a virus that "isn't that bad."

So regardless of how you feel; your issue really can't, and shouldn't be with the people who are concerned with the severity of the virus. After all, they are merely reacting to the level of concern thattheir own government is operating under. If your own government is risking possibly creating Great Depression 2.0, it's got to be at least worth noting, right? It would make sense that risking Great Depression 2.0 would mean that the virus is dangerous enough to merit that. Or at least, the strain on the healthcare system would be so great, that we would be required to take actions that could lead us to a large scale economic downturn.

It's weird, the type of mental gymnastics that some of ya'll let happen in order to find somebody to take your frustration out on... Meanwhile, your own government has made these directives and it genuinely doesn't matter if you're on the "It's just a flu" or "It's a serious matter" team.

We're all in this together. So either we start acting like it, or we will NEVER recover.

Stop looking for a place to lay the blame outside of your government administration.

We could have prepared for this, but we didn't.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
$1200 might be cool when I was 21, but I have way more bills than that. Not to mention all of these injections will just hyperinflate the mighty (lol) dollar

And tell that to the people trying to get ahold of unemployment offices right now.
Your city will likely do some sort of deferment. And otherwise, you are going to have to eat into your savings for now. Sorry, but that's the best option right now. If you need food and cannot pay, there are food banks open.
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Originally Posted By mordorr
Your city will likely do some sort of deferment. And otherwise, you are going to have to eat into your savings for now. Sorry, but that's the best option right now. If you need food and cannot pay, there are food banks open.
BRB depending on a totalitarian yet incompetent government

BRB depending on an even worse and weak healthcare system who only know how to pump people up with pills and vaccines

And also BRB depending on the mass media for all of your information when all they only know is to spread fear and panic.











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post 1601670981 04-04-2020, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
At the same time, we don't have to pander to the virtue signalers that oversensationalize the situation.
I really have refrained from making my opinion on this clear, but since I have to:

Both sides of this are complete and utter misdirection.

Both sides should be upsetwith their governing body, and not each other. While the reasons differ, the governing body is what has created this situation.

Both sides are misguided.
post 1601671181 04-04-2020, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
BRB depending on a totalitarian yet incompetent government

BRB depending on an even worse and weak healthcare system who only know how to pump people up with pills and vaccines

And also BRB depending on the mass media for all of your information when all they only know is to spread fear and panic.











LOL
So what are your solutions bud?

Did you get a doctorate too?

You want to clown all of the well versed PhD's/CDC/WHO on the subject matter, so explain to me what we medical professionals don't know since all we do is "pump up with pills and vaccines" and apparently don't understand medical science like you do. Essential oils? Some garlic, bro? Is that what I fail to understand?

Yeah, the current government administration knew about Covid back in October, did nothing to prepare for it and just called it a "hoax". That's 100% true, I saw it live on TV and that's where your anger should be directed.

I keep seeing chit talk about those of us that are actually out here doing something about the sick, meanwhile you cry like little children about having to stay inside for a whilerent free and safe.

Grow up and take off the tin foil hats.
*Tolerance is the lube that slides the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of civilized society*

*We didn't deserve snailsrus*

As always: not medical advice but medical opinion crew
post 1601671311 04-04-2020, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
BRB depending on a totalitarian yet incompetent government

BRB depending on an even worse and weak healthcare system who only know how to pump people up with pills and vaccines

And also BRB depending on the mass media for all of your information when all they only know is to spread fear and panic.











LOL
OK well it still is better than going out and increasing the growth rate and getting tons of people killed so you are just gonna have to deal bro.
post 1601671751 04-04-2020, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted By blissful88
So what are your solutions bud?

Did you get a doctorate too?

You want to clown all of the well versed PhD's/CDC/WHO on the subject matter, so explain to me what we medical professionals don't know since all we do is "pump up with pills and vaccines" and apparently don't understand medical science like you do. Essential oils? Some garlic, bro? Is that what I fail to understand?

Yeah, the current government administration knew about Covid back in October, did nothing to prepare for it and just called it a "hoax". That's 100% true, I saw it live on TV and that's where your anger should be directed.

I keep seeing chit talk about those of us that are actually out here doing something about the sick, meanwhile you cry like little children about having to stay inside for a while rent free and safe.

Grow up and take off the tin foil hats.
How about this: YOU stay inside, YOU keep licking government boots, YOU keep doing what you're told by the TV people, and the rest of us will do what we want, you sanctimonious crybaby. lmao
post 1601671801 04-04-2020, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I don't disagree. And my point still stands. We don't have to pander to the virtue signalers, regardless of the side they are on. And both sides are annoying to say the least.

Actually, thinking of it further, I disagree with the use of past tense in your post. They have not merely created the situation, they are still creating it as we speak.
It's not virtue signaling. The growth is still exponential. You need to stay in or people die. This isn't negotiable. There aren't "multiple points of view" on this. This isn't a debate, and they need to pass laws so they shoot people who don't comply. It's really that simple. Stay inside.
Originally Posted By RepealThe19th
How about this: YOU stay inside, YOU keep licking government boots, YOU keep doing what you're told by the TV people, and the rest of us will do what we want, you sanctimonious crybaby. lmao
Or we could ask the government to whip out the flamethrowers.
post 1601672201 04-05-2020, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted By kusok
So, what happened is sadly two elderly lung cancer and diabetes people died? It’s kinda to be expected, no? Regular flu would get them next time, or something else would, as sad as that is.

OP, I’m VERY sorry for your loss, but this is not an excuse to f*ck up MY life. I need to work so I can pay rent and buy food for my family, and I’m not Hannibal Lecter or a dog, so no mask for me, thanks. Reopen the country!

Isolate the vulnerable and sick, but let the ret of us get back to normal life.
You think you'll have a normal life when the hospitals are full?
You think it'll be business as usual when hospitals cannot take ANY non COVID patients because the beds are all full of COVID patients?


And no. Regular flu would not have "got them next time". We have antivirals for influenza. We have vaccines. It's not the same.
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