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post 1602335221 04-12-2020, 01:00 PM
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Because the majority of them are uneducated and try to spread rubbish in order to fill their empty lives with attention.
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Lack of evidence.

Flat earth- Photoshop, NASA mind control, planting actors in Australia, Australia doesn't exist. Sure seemed to exist when I spent hours flying to Sydney.


Legit mind boggling counterarguments that any logical person with half a brain would say....that makes no sense.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Interesting because it was pretty normal to watch monster conspiracy shows, ancient aliens and listen to coast 2 coast am. Or talk about 9/11, moon landing and chit like that 10 years ago.

But yeah we are all schizos now. Let's not question anything from here on out.
Gotcha. I didnt say that and you might not be schizo yet, but you're definitely near the bottom of society. Maybe one or two rungs up from a homeless schizo, so its not a stretch why you would get lumped in with that crowd. It might have been normal in your little world 10 years ago to say the moon landing was faked, but in reality, it was never normal.

Good news is if you're not schizo yet you can still turn your life around. You have an opportunity being born in north america to be a part of something much bigger than yourself. Join the people that sent rockets into space, decoded the human genome, developed artificially intelligent software, built skyscrapers, and made millions in the stock market. Or you can continue to be a bottom feeder holed up in your little world, living pay check to pay check, barely surviving. It's really up to you.
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Bigfoot is actually blurry.

My friends aunt is a Sasquatch believer and set up a YouTube channel and a group of other believers. Sasquatch is a thing to her and she makes videos of dog **** and says it's Bigfoot scat, or a branch falling next to a tree trunk and that was a lean to for Bigfoot to spend the night in, or a scattering of rocks are a sign that Bigfoot is sending messages.

They look for reasoning in every single thing to justify their beliefs no matter how out of touch they are
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8
Lack of evidence.

Flat earth- Photoshop, NASA mind control, planting actors in Australia, Australia doesn't exist. Sure seemed to exist when I spent hours flying to Sydney.


Legit mind boggling counterarguments that any logical person with half a brain would say....that makes no sense.
It's been well documented that NASA uses CGI for their images.

It's been well documented that the USA government has done mind control testing with LSD. You'd be a fool to believe governments wouldn't like to control the minds of people.

Then you just blindly throw that in with "Australia doesn't exist" and group everyone together. Who the fuk believes Australia doesn't exist? Wtf man.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
It's been well documented that NASA uses CGI for their images.

It's been well documented that the USA government has done mind control testing with LSD. You'd be a fool to believe governments wouldn't like to control the minds of people.

Then you just blindly throw that in with "Australia doesn't exist" and group everyone together. Who the fuk believes Australia doesn't exist? Wtf man.
Flat earthers don't believe Australia doesn't exist. It's location is not agreeable to their theory. Are you a flat earther?
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Originally Posted By eod8989
I don't even believe in most conspiracy theories. I don't believe 100% that we went to the moon. I think there is an agenda behind this corona chit. I believe things changed around 2012.

None of these are insane theories
Point is people don't have a problem with asking questions...conspiracy theorists obviously take it far beyond that questioning when they refuse to accept anything they don't want to hear (which is any official/widely believed/reasonable answer.)

Here's a video of a CTard so convinced everyone else is wrong about the moon landing that he confronted Buzz Aldrin and got punched in the face. It's easy to see why these clowns are hated and ridiculed:

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Originally Posted By eod8989
If you question something people legit get mad and insult you. If you question the government people call you crazy. Forums like reddit just censor you. For example you can't even have a thought on the moon landing being faked or 5g towers being linked to anything because people will just ridicule you.
People construct positive beliefs to help them cope with existence. When you challenge a belief that they've accepted as a part of their self/ego, they will actually feel as if you're trying to kill them because killing the belief that makes their self/ego is the same as killing them because they are no longer a being having an experience, they are an identity constructed by a multitude of different fallacious beliefs and ideas. Many philosophers warn of the egoic trap. Lao Tzu, "A name that becomes a name is not the immortal name", A name is just a sound used to differentiate your being from others, it was never meant to be an identity. A being with imposed definitions and ideas is finite/mortal, A being existing without the constraints of definitions is infinite/immortal. Plato, "You can be a slave to your self/ego or the master of your self" When your being is constructed by ideas, it's not you who's in control, it's the ideas. This is why religion is such a powerful tool for controlling populations. A belief system is instilled early on, deviation from these systems in later life would lead to psychotic breaks. It's true some convert from religion but not easily. These are irrefutable truths. Take them as you will.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
It's been well documented that NASA uses CGI for their images.

It's been well documented that the USA government has done mind control testing with LSD. You'd be a fool to believe governments wouldn't like to control the minds of people.

Then you just blindly throw that in with "Australia doesn't exist" and group everyone together. Who the fuk believes Australia doesn't exist? Wtf man.
I couldn't even respond to that post

I've never looked into the flat earth theory or heard of Australia not existing. Of course they are going to lump it in together to fit their narrative.
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Originally Posted By digital022
To answer your original question, because you're a fukin tool that rejects science in exchange for some cockamamie ideology.

Like, why spend even a second wondering if we've actually been to the moon. How does that affect your life? Just lol
Imagine spending more time and energy debating the validity of the moon landing (with NOTHING to gain from it) than the USSR did.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's an overlap between Ctards who believe the earth is flat and those who believe the moon landing is a hoax, they both have a gripe with NASA/human progress.
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Originally Posted By SteadyFlexOnU
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The only thing you smashed is your head, which would explain those posts.
Originally Posted By lllEZRAlll
Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.
If you properly read his post, you would have seen, he already investigated that stuff and came up with some universal criteria why he is discarding them.

You are just copy pasting empty sophisms.
Originally Posted By GainTrain1995
The problem seems to be that there are two types of conspiracy theorists that end up being lumped into the same category. The first type being the hyperactive conspiratorial yobs that jump on every conspiracy going, and are willing (desperate) to believe anything that contradicts official narratives. However the second type (in my opinion) should not be classed as conspiracy theorists. This is the type of person that is able to think critically, and uses their intuition to make sense of all information available. These people have the ability to expose truths that are being hidden from the masses. However because the conspiracy’s by type two’s are also latched onto by type one’s, all conspiracy’s are lumped together and viewed in a negative light. Let’s not pretend that true conspiracy’s do not exist, because the do, and they always have. The problem is how do we distinguish between the true conspiracy’s exposed by type twos, and delusional ramblings of type ones.
It's pretty easy to see the difference and if someone articulates his arguments properly noone will call him conspiracy theorist. Chomsky wasn't called conspiracy theorist for example, when he blamed a lot of foreign stuff on the CIA. Some turned out right, some wrong, but his arguments were still plausible.


Motivation:
Type I) Cannot accept the truth because it would hurt them a lot because of personal values.
"My genes cannot have given my son autism, it was big pharma."
or is a naturally smart underachiever with a lack of critical thinking skills and too much time on his hands. He is naturally great at recognizing patterns and loses himself in them.
"Look a pyramid those guys have to illuminati satanist ****phile jews."

Type II) Gives a factual reason, why he believes something.
"Assad had nothing to gain by using Chemical weapons against IS, when is already winning that war and has to rely international support."

Arguments:
Type I) Gathers tons of info to strengthen his premise, never really questions his own premise, is convinced his conspiracy is true, stays in the same bubble, lacks the ability to discern good sources from bad ones, repeatedly ignores evidence, that disproves him
Type II) Looks at arguments for both sides, recognizes his own limits, actually stays sceptical knowing he has no true insider info

Conclusion:
Type I) normally fails to consider the consequences his theories would have if true (nearly all popular conspiracy theories fail, if this is considered properly)
Type II) waits for more info to confirm his idea
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I don't hate CTers, but a lot of their theories aren't really all that well thought out

For me to take any interest in a conspiracy theory the why has to make sense. "They" want to destroy our economy makes no sense. A crippled economy benefits no one.

But, using the virus to give corporations bailouts with taxpayer money makes a lot of sense.
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Originally Posted By 128
I wouldn't be surprised if there's an overlap between Ctards who believe the earth is flat and those who believe the moon landing is a hoax, they both have a gripe with NASA/human progress.
When you throw out science you kind of have free reign to declare anything you want to be true/false.

The flat earth conspiracy in particular is pretty astounding as if that were actually true there could be no elements with more protons that helium. In a flat earth universe there is no flat earth because there is no solid mater at all.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Interesting because it was pretty normal to watch monster conspiracy shows, ancient aliens and listen to coast 2 coast am. Or talk about 9/11, moon landing and chit like that 10 years ago.

But yeah we are all schizos now. Let's not question anything from here on out.
Some people believed it, because it was on TV and those TV shows were pretty good at presenting that stuff as actual science. Most people still laughed at that stuff though. Especially ancient Aliens.
Originally Posted By eod8989
Imagine calling people schizophrenics because they question things. Only brainwashed morons say this kind of stuff. Fuk out of here.
The problem is showing the critical thinking skills to properly question things, weighting the consequences and thinking them through properly.

For your moonlanding example: Can we 100% know they went to the moon? No. Is it insanely unlikely they managed to fool the KGB into thinking they did, while some random youtubers find that out? Yes.
That should be more than enough to drop the case.

A conspiracyguy will ignore basic logic and instead go back to the drawing board and keep analyzing the footage over and over again until he finds another thing that's wrong.
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I don't hate conspiracy theorists necessarily, but I do hate you.
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8
Flat earthers don't believe Australia doesn't exist.It's location is not agreeable to their theory.Are you a flat earther?
So what you're really saying is they most likely believe Australia has a different location than the one on a map where the world is round. No chit sherlock. You're being willfully ignorant. And you are trying to lump critical thinkers in with people "who believe Australia doesn't exist" and label the whole lot "conspiracy theorists".
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Originally Posted By l2ambo
People construct positive beliefs to help them cope with existence. When you challenge a belief that they've accepted as a part of their self/ego, they will actually feel as if you're trying to kill them because killing the belief that makes their self/ego is the same as killing them because they are no longer a being having an experience, they are an identity constructed by a multitude of different fallacious beliefs and ideas. Many philosophers warn of the egoic trap. Lao Tzu, "A name that becomes a name is not the immortal name", A name is just a sound used to differentiate your being from others, it was never meant to be an identity. A being with imposed definitions and ideas is finite/mortal, A being existing without the constraints of definitions is infinite/immortal. Plato, "You can be a slave to your self/ego or the master of your self" When your being is constructed by ideas, it's not you who's in control, it's the ideas. This is why religion is such a powerful tool for controlling populations. A belief system is instilled early on, deviation from these systems in later life would lead to psychotic breaks. It's true some convert from religion but not easily. These are irrefutable truths. Take them as you will.
"Everyone else is a sheep cant wrap their mind around (pick one: earth is flat, moon landing fake, world ending, everything changed in 2012, lizard overlords). Brainwashed losers lol"

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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer
"Everyone else is a sheep cant wrap their mind around (pick one: earth is flat, moon landing fake, world ending, everything changed in 2012, lizard overlords). Brainwashed losers lol"

If only we had a college dropout hero from the internet to save us...
You mad I didn't even go to college? I'm just curious and question everything. I don't take opinions given to me at face value. I think them through, attack them from all angles in my head. If they hold up after they've been cross referenced with what I know to be true, they're accepted, If they crumble under the pressure of truth, they fall away. you should try it sometime.

Also, I don't subscribe to any of the ridiculous conspiracy theories out there, only the logical ones. Sorry champ, squirt, buckaroo, sport.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
So what you're really saying is they most likely believe Australia has a different location than the one on a map where the world is round. No chit sherlock. You're being willfully ignorant. And you are trying to lump critical thinkers in with people "who believe Australia doesn't exist" and label the whole lot "conspiracy theorists".
Flat earther confirmed. What's your username on the flat Earth forum.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Just LOL.
oh look, I hurt your ego once and now you follow me around the misc and troll my posts. Sad.

Anyway, with that I'm out. I've dropped too much truth here and now the goblins that live off their delusions are attacking me. Not worth my time to debate ego maniacs on the internet.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
If you check back on the thread, I've posted first.

But sure, you do your "attacking the concept from all angles in your head", and come up with the conclusion that I am following you.

For a free thinker such as yourself, you are not limited by the concept of time.

Edit : To be honest, I don't even know why I would be hurt by you, it doesn't ring a bell.
You were extremely butthurt that I predicted the recent market crash 4 months before it happened. but yeah, I'm out, later.

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I don't hate conspiracy theorists, but I am certainly annoyed by people that believe things without evidence, or those that make massive leaps to try and form connections where there are none. If something is true, it should be easily demonstrated, and it can't be considered true until it is. It's really that simple.
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I enjoy good conspiracies because they make you look deeper into things and the possibility of things not being what you originally believe, however I hate most conspiracy theorists because before this stuff was popular it was people researching things on their own, looking into multiple sources, and doing other stuff to get information and back their points. Now its just people taking a social media post or one youtube video that took information from social media post and then they just run with it.

This Q anon trump conspiracy was the first one in years that i've been able to get into that was annoying and believable, but then when I realized how long its been going on, when dates and numbers started getting thrown around and nothing happened, and then when they started adding military stuff into it that I know only appeals/believable to someone who has never served atleast in combat arms(like talking about there is some secret underground bunker war with rescue mission of thousands of kids that no one is seeing) I then knew it was bs too because that type of mission and support would require a lot of help unless this was an expendables you get hurt or die you stay underground lol.

Most theorists now are just peoples opinions based off coincidences and other peoples opinions with no factual data behind it or its fear mongering.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Oh, I remember now. I guess calling you out for not taking advantage of something that you "predicted" qualifies as "butthurt.

This is the problem with conspiracy theorists, they think everyone who calls out their BS is "butthurt". You can't make this chit up.
The only way I could have made that prediction is by taking all the data I know to be true and constructing an educated guess on what I believe will happen in the future based on factual information/truth. There is a difference between people who live honestly and don't delude themselves of what is true and those who live off lies to cope with existence. One group will be able to make accurate predictions but will likely be somewhat depressed because of the truths he knows, the other will be blissfully ignorant and won't be able to make accurate predictions. I'm sorry, but you fall in the latter category. You know this and that's why you despise me. *Drops mic* Stay egoic
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Originally Posted By I3igAl
The only thing you smashed is your head, which would explain those posts.


If you properly read his post, you would have seen, he already investigated that stuff and came up with some universal criteria why he is discarding them.

You are just copy pasting empty sophisms.


It's pretty easy to see the difference and if someone articulates his arguments properly noone will call him conspiracy theorist. Chomsky wasn't called conspiracy theorist for example, when he blamed a lot of foreign stuff on the CIA. Some turned out right, some wrong, but his arguments were still plausible.


Motivation:
Type I) Cannot accept the truth because it would hurt them a lot because of personal values.
"My genes cannot have given my son autism, it was big pharma."
or is a naturally smart underachiever with a lack of critical thinking skills and too much time on his hands. He is naturally great at recognizing patterns and loses himself in them.
"Look a pyramid those guys have to illuminati satanist ****phile jews."

Type II) Gives a factual reason, why he believes something.
"Assad had nothing to gain by using Chemical weapons against IS, when is already winning that war and has to rely international support."

Arguments:
Type I) Gathers tons of info to strengthen his premise, never really questions his own premise, is convinced his conspiracy is true, stays in the same bubble, lacks the ability to discern good sources from bad ones, repeatedly ignores evidence, that disproves him
Type II) Looks at arguments for both sides, recognizes his own limits, actually stays sceptical knowing he has no true insider info

Conclusion:
Type I) normally fails to consider the consequences his theories would have if true (nearly all popular conspiracy theories fail, if this is considered properly)
Type II) waits for more info to confirm his idea
Chomsky has a great mind.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Rent free...



See ya! Oh wait, you're back already.
Had to put you in your place for everyone to see.
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post 1602341491 04-12-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Rent free...



See ya! Oh wait, you're back already.

Extremely generous of you to post that the link though, old chap:



Please be sure the bump the thread.
Well, hey. If the government makes people stay home for as long as it takes the vaccine to come out, I'll be sure to do that. However, if in a month or two they admit to overstating the severity, I might have to wait another 5-10 years.
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post 1602341551 04-12-2020, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By A-GAME
I don't hate conspiracy theorists, but I am certainly annoyed by people that believe things without evidence, or those that make massive leaps to try and form connections where there are none. If something is true, it should be easily demonstrated, and it can't be considered true until it is. It's really that simple.
Some things are well hidden. The truth is not always easily demonstrated. “It can’t be considered true until it is” what kind of statement is that...? considered in the minds of who? It can be considered in any way possible. Truth is ignorant of considerations. Truth is truth, whether it’s considered or not.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
So you're saying your "prediction" is worthless? Got it.
The market dropped from 3400-2100... If my prediction is worthless, you're deluded.
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