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post 1602622991 04-15-2020, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By lockdev
Just lost my aunt to this last night. Srs.

My uncle, who is one of the best people I've ever known, also has it and it isn't looking good for him either.

She was 68 and healthy. He's 73 and not in good health.

He's bed-ridden and it's believed that they both contracted it from his private duty nurse, despite taking precautions.

Chit hit me hard brahs. You don't think this stuff is going to affect you or your family but it definitely can, and probably will. Stay safe.
Sorry to hear that, brah. Hope he pulls through.
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Im almost risking a ban bet that this country isnt opening on May 1, MAy 15th or May 30th


https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...f-coronavirus/



There is just no way the country will open and the military be on shutdown still.


All of this talk of opening is just talk. People are restless, yes, but the govt both federal and state have other plans for the citizens of this country
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Originally Posted By lockdev
Chit hit me hard brahs. You don't think this stuff is going to affect you or your family but it definitely can, and probably will. Stay safe.
I'm really sorry, man. We're all pulling for you, and your uncle.
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The military isn't "on shutdown" though
Originally Posted By lockdev
Just lost my aunt to this last night. Srs.

My uncle, who is one of the best people I've ever known, also has it and it isn't looking good for him either.

She was 68 and healthy. He's 73 and not in good health.

He's bed-ridden and it's believed that they both contracted it from his private duty nurse, despite taking precautions.

Chit hit me hard brahs. You don't think this stuff is going to affect you or your family but it definitely can, and probably will. Stay safe.
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Originally Posted By lockdev
Just lost my aunt to this last night. Srs.

My uncle, who is one of the best people I've ever known, also has it and it isn't looking good for him either.

She was 68 and healthy. He's 73 and not in good health.

He's bed-ridden and it's believed that they both contracted it from his private duty nurse, despite taking precautions.

Chit hit me hard brahs. You don't think this stuff is going to affect you or your family but it definitely can, and probably will. Stay safe.
Damn. Many don't realize the gravity of the situation till it hits them. I'm sorry to hear it man. I'm worried for my parents, haven't visited for a month, and I know they're taking dumb risks. I just don't want to (or have my kids) pass a disease on to them.
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post 1602627381 04-15-2020, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
The forecasts of the dangerous overburdening of healthcare, even with full social distancing, were grossly over-forecast and have been disproven and discredited.

Tens of millions of Americans have been put out of work and there are nearly 20 million new unemployment claims over the past three weeks, all because of badly wrong forecasts of overburdening of health care.
the issue is that at the time the models had to be based on one very small sample size of data coming out of Italy. and of course Italy has unique characteristics regarding population density, lifestyle and cultural choices, the later 2 of which are very difficult to accomodate in the model. there was also relatively little scientific info on this virus, meaning they had to start everything from scratch

so they did the "responsible" thing and went worst case scenario prep because NO ONE was prepared for this. but now you have a fraction of the population that is literally terrified of walking outside, and another fraction that have branched off into ****ing ****ring conspiracy theories. so now you have an absolute shetshow to deal with outside of the actual virus.
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Reopening could work if we put travel ban between states and/or metro areas (essential work travel only). Face covering when out in public. Staggered school and work schedules. School and businesses lower the room capacity to allow for people to work/study a safe distance from each other. Restaurant and Salons capacity also lowered. No international travels unless immune (requires antibody testing) until there is a vaccine and enough have had it.

Can’t think of a way to keep movie theaters, night clubs, sporting events and concerts going until this is over though. Unless they seat everyone 6’ apart at theaters (some dine in theaters already do this), sporting events and concerts.

Employ people to mass test and contact trace. Set up a queue for elective surgeries to allow more capacity in case of a surge.
i think you have to open up from the in-out. so maintain travel bans between states, obviously international travel and such. encourage working from home where possible. but start opening up restaraunts/bars/cafes/gyms to say 50% max capacity.
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Today I went into a building (other than my house) for the first time in 5 weeks (plus 1 day, so for 5 complete weeks I entered 0 buildings). I was in the post office for about 30 seconds to drop off a package with a pre printed label. Only one other person was in the building. I think I got within 6 feet as I walked by even still. You gotta go to where you gotta go to, some things aren't six feet apart. That's it, I'm a gonner.

Oh well might as well continue the streak, planning to go into another building tomorrow. Wonder if I'll melt. Maybe I'll wear more mask? When else will I get to put it on? lol
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
Today I went into a building (other than my house) for the first time in 5 weeks (plus 1 day, so for 5 complete weeks I entered 0 buildings). I was in the post office for about 30 seconds to drop off a package with a pre printed label. Only one other person was in the building. I think I got within 6 feet as I walked by even still. You gotta go to where you gotta go to, some things aren't six feet apart. That's it, I'm a gonner.

Oh well might as well continue the streak, planning to go into another building tomorrow. Wonder if I'll melt. Maybe I'll wear more mask? When else will I get to put it on? lol
what food have you been surviving on for 5 weeks without a grocery store trip? I like dairy so have to replenish that and fresh fruits / vegetables. Frozen kind of sucks after a while
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
what food have you been surviving on for 5 weeks without a grocery store trip? I like dairy so have to replenish that and fresh fruits / vegetables. Frozen kind of sucks after a while
Delivery. Everybody started doing shipped orders or instacart or whatever it's called the last year or two, we just do that, doorstep delivery. Also multiple stores do the drive up thing where you order on the app, drive to the store, check or call that you are there, and they bring it out. Open the back from the driver seat, they put it in, you drive away. Wipe down the outsides of the packages as you unload when you get home.

I sorta live on Fairlife milk so the shelf life is crazy and I buy lots at a time (multiple refrigerators) so I already had like 15 jugs (1.5 litres each) when this started and get more with every order.
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New Orleans stay at home order extended to May 16.
Got dayumn NOLA local economy going to be absolutely wrecked from this ****. So many places are never going to recover from being shut down that long.

What a ****ing shame man. This **** has gone on for too long. Let the poor people open their **** back up at at least 50% capacity FFS.
In hindsight these shut downs were extreme. Nothing we can do about that now. But whatcouldbe done now is easing up on it so people can at least attempt to get the businesses they killed themselves to start and build get back on track.
post 1602631651 04-15-2020, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
End the shutdowns now information website

https://endtheshutdownnow.com/


I was wrong to push so hard for these shutdowns myself. I expected the impact on health care to be far worse than it actually is, but I was placing my trust in those experts who have the professional expertise to model pandemics and publicize those models.

The impact of the virus on health care has been minimal relative to the impact of shutdowns on the working and business-owning American people which has been immense and growing more immense by the day.

The forecasts of the dangerous overburdening of healthcare, even with full social distancing, were grossly over-forecast and have been disproven and discredited.

Tens of millions of Americans have been put out of work and there are nearly 20 million new unemployment claims over the past three weeks, all because of badly wrong forecasts of overburdening of health care.

For most of the country, there is no rational justification to continue the shutdowns of businesses and employees past the end of April.

Putting people back to work during the first of May will cause more viral transmission than if we don't - that's a given - but at this point we have to accept that outcome and that cost. If there are outbreaks that get far too severe into May and June, then we'll just have to readjust at that point; but for now the people have to be allowed to get back to work sooner rather than later.

There is no easy and perfect answer, but that's the best answer there is right now.
as long as the threat is there, you dont have an economy. even without a shutdown consumers wont consume and businesses will shut down as a result. public health and the economy are tied together and attempts to decouple the two will fail miserably.

the only way out of this is to go all in on testing. im not sure why we cant test more than 1% of the population. dont care about what other countries are doing. we need to test more than 1% to know wtf is actually happening.

the feds have shown that they can and will print at will. might as well print more of that magic money and ear mark it for an epic testing blitz. granted im thinking our problem isnt money. maybe it's just not possible.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
Delivery. Everybody started doing shipped orders or instacart or whatever it's called the last year or two, we just do that, doorstep delivery. Also multiple stores do the drive up thing where you order on the app, drive to the store, check or call that you are there, and they bring it out. Open the back from the driver seat, they put it in, you drive away. Wipe down the outsides of the packages as you unload when you get home.

I sorta live on Fairlife milk so the shelf life is crazy and I buy lots at a time (multiple refrigerators) so I already had like 15 jugs (1.5 litres each) when this started and get more with every order.
how much do you tip for instacart? is it still entering tip amount before delivery?
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Originally Posted By TheBateman
how much do you tip for instacart? is it still entering tip amount before delivery?
My wife always does the actual entering, I don't even have the app on my phone. I want to say...maybe up to $10? I'm not even sure when you enter it.

I do know that cash would be preferred because of insta shenanigans they play with their drivers...except for the whole contactless aspect and the whole money is full of germs thing.

I really should withdraw some cash and like put envelopes of cash tip out
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
New Orleans stay at home order extended to May 16.
Got dayumn NOLA local economy going to be absolutely wrecked from this ****. So many places are never going to recover from being shut down that long.

What a ****ing shame man. This **** has gone on for too long. Let the poor people open their **** back up at at least 50% capacity FFS.
In hindsight these shut downs were extreme. Nothing we can do about that now. But whatcouldbe done now is easing up on it so people can at least attempt to get the businesses they killed themselves to start and build get back on track.
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Sources believe coronavirus originated in Wuhan lab as part of China's efforts to compete with US :https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cor...ete-us-sources
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
Sources believe coronavirus originated in Wuhan lab as part of China's efforts to compete with US :https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cor...ete-us-sources
tinfoil man ,no idea why fox broadcasting such bs
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US government gave $3.7million to Wuhan lab accused of sparking coronavirus outbreak with experiments on bats

Covid-19 was originally thought to have come from a so-called “wet market” in the city but there has been mounting speculation linking the disease to the lab and another in the city.

Scientists at the institute experimented on bats as part of a project funded by the US National Institutes of Health, which licences it to receive American money, the Mail on Sunday reports.

It has also emerged Chinese scientist Shi Zhengli, a leading experts on coronaviruses and known as China's 'Bat Woman' was “muzzled” after revealing Covid-19’s genetic composition – crucial for developing tests and vaccines.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/113811...outbreak-bats/
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Schools to reopen in france may 11th maybe
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UK fixing to keep locked down until May 7th with an apparent loosening coming thereafter. Some clothes factories apparently reopening & thus online shopping for certain stores starting again albeit on a limited level due to apparent social distancing in the warehouses meaning less staff cranking chit out.

Also

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...rt-claims.html

Can't wait for this report to be publicized
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whats with the lock down and 7th of may ? why 7th ? what if someone is a carrier and becomes asymptomatic on the 4th of may ?? then what?
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
whats with the lock down and 7th of may ? why 7th ? what if someone is a carrier and becomes asymptomatic on the 4th of may ?? then what?
I don't think anyone believes the virus will just disappear in 3 weeks time. The government believes that there won't be enough new cases to cripple the country as would allegedly be the case had the lockdown not been pursued.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz
I don't think anyone believes the virus will just disappear in 3 weeks time. The government believes that there won't be enough new cases to cripple the country as would allegedly be the case had the lockdown not been pursued.
oooookkkk?? and ? i still dont get what youre saying. what does virus wont disappear in 3 weeks, lock down lifted on the 7th and no new cases to cripple the country has to do with anything?


if the virus wont diappear in 3 weeks then why the fukc are they saying they will remove the lockdown on the 7th? why giving people false hope?
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
oooookkkk?? and ? i still dont get what youre saying. what does virus wont disappear in 3 weeks, lock down lifted on the 7th and no new cases to cripple the country has to do with anything?


if the virus wont diappear in 3 weeks then why the fukc are they saying they will remove the lockdown on the 7th? why giving people false hope?
They won't remove the lockdown. It will be loosened to continue to attempt to cap the number of new cases whilst boosting the economy. The economy has always been worth more than our lives so this should come as no surprise.

Your question was, what happens if someone gets infected on may 4th, nothing happens. The lockdown isn't reversed, its loosened. The UK will just follow what Germany are doing closely & follow them.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
whats with the lock down and 7th of may ? why 7th ? what if someone is a carrier and becomes asymptomatic on the 4th of may ?? then what?
All county's need to lock for a few months....
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz
They won't remove the lockdown. It will be loosened to continue to attempt to cap the number of new cases whilst boosting the economy. The economy has always been worth more than our lives so this should come as no surprise.

Your question was is, what happens if someone gets infected on may 4th, nothing happens. The lockdown isn't reversed, its loosened. The UK will just follow what Germany are doing closely & follow them.
loosens? what do you mean by loosens? dont throw these simple present verbs , explain.... how will "loosening the lock down" <--- im using this as a present participle to understand , how will this help , how will it be different, how will things change?

I dont mean to be a d!ck , but everyone is just parroting ,mirrioring,mechanically repeating what they hear without fully understanding what they are saying.... thats why im asking for an elaboration from your side on the "loosen " and how will it help
Originally Posted By proteinandsex
All county's need to lock for a few months....
I know man , exactly this .... everything needs to be on a full lock down for atleast 6 month to properly control/contain this .

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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
loosens? what do you mean by loosens? dont throw these simple present verbs , explain.... how will "loosening the lock down" <--- im using this as a present participle to understand , how will this help , how will it be different, how will things change?

I dont mean to be a d!ck , but everyone is just parroting ,mirrioring,mechanically repeating what they hear without fully understanding what they are saying.... thats why im asking for an elaboration from your side on the "loosen " and how will it help
Obviously I can only make assumptions at this time since my train of thought is the UK will just follow what Germany does assuming what they do works & I haven't really read up on what they're doing. By "loosening" the lockdown the government will reopen sections of the economy that are otherwise closed (yes, it's all about the economy).

For example, I hear all shops/businesses that employ less than 50 staff will be allowed to reopen. Schools will possibly reopen.

Most likely the trade off will be, continue to socially distance, trace new infections & outbreaks for reopening the economy and thus "loosening the lockdown.

One would also assume if you're from somewhere where law enforcement are questioning you whenever you leave the house, that will no longer happen either.
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LukeLissen, you got any updated testing graphs? Curious of our progress here.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz
Obviously I can only make assumptions at this time since my train of thought is the UK will just follow what Germany does assuming what they do works & I haven't really read up on what they're doing. By "loosening" the lockdown the government will reopen sections of the economy that are otherwise closed (yes, it's all about the economy).

For example, I hear all shops/businesses that employ less than 50 staff will be allowed to reopen. Schools will possibly reopen.

Most likely the trade off will be, continue to socially distance, trace new infections & outbreaks for reopening the economy and thus "loosening the lockdown.

One would also assume if you're from somewhere where law enforcement are questioning you whenever you leave the house, that will no longer happen either.
social distancing : ok , but what about the other ways people contract the virus?? what will people do when they touch an infected surface , touch their mouth , contract the virus and then spread it out?


shops ,businesses with less than 50 staff will open . alright and what will happen when one of those 50 staff gets infected by getting in contact with an infected client? A client might be infected , touch his credit card ,give it to one of the staff to scan it on the pos machine , then what?



The entire opening business in chuncks to keep things controlled , wont work , because its not like youre fighting a visible ,tangible foe .


This virus has the same qualities as the air we breathe has. its everywhere, you cant stop it by being safe , atleast not our kind of safe.


as i said earlier in this thread like a month ago , when people were saying this will end in couple days or a couple weeks at most and this is all fear mongering . i say again, this will not end anytime soon.

We have two scenarios

1) There is no cure and theres no way to avoid it
2) A vaccine is found and this enDS



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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
social distancing : ok , but what about the other ways people contract the virus?? what will people do when they touch an infected surface , touch their mouth , contract the virus and then spread it out?


shops ,businesses with less than 50 staff will open . alright and what will happen when one of those 50 staff gets infected by getting in contact with an infected client? A client might be infected , touch his credit card ,give it to one of the staff to scan it on the pos machine , then what?



The entire opening business in chuncks to keep things controlled , wont work , because its not like youre fighting a visible ,tangible foe .


This virus has the same qualities as the air we breathe has. its everywhere, you cant stop it by being safe , atleast not our kind of safe.


as i said earlier in this thread like a month ago , when people were saying this will end in couple days or a couple weeks at most and this is all fear mongering . i say again, this will not end anytime soon.

We have two scenarios

1) There is no cure and theres no way to avoid it
2) A vaccine is found and this enDS



No other way out of this
Your post basically points to what I've said.

Small outbreaks will be traced, contained & quarantined & so few people will die from it as time progresses it will no longer be reported.

Lockdowns aren't loosened when the virus is rampant. They're loosened when the first wave is on its way out, meaning theres a certain level of immunity, some of the most vulnerable are already dead or immune.

"Loosening the lockdown" doesn't mean if you're exhibiting symptoms you won't be quarantined & traced & thus can go ahead and infect swathes of people.
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